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James Harden is right — he shoud be an All-Star

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James Harden thinks he should be an All-Star. Here’s what he told SI.com:

“Oh yeah, definitely — yes, sir,” he said when asked if he should be an All-Star. “I’m not confident, though. I can’t control that. I’ll just keep playing hard, winning basketball games and having fun with my guys.”

So, is Harden right? Should he be picked as a reserve tonight? I’m already on record saying yes, but here’s another crack at making a case for Harden.

The simple explanation is that Harden is the second best shooting guard in the West behind Kobe Bryant. That should do it. But the way All-Star reserves tend to work is that positions get tossed out the window. Five point guards, a small forward and a power forward might be the selections. Just the way it goes.

But there should be something to be said for a guy that’s second at that position. It just makes sense for him to be included. He’s second in PER (21.94) in the West for shooting guard, only behind Kobe. He’s 22nd overall in PER in the league. He’s fourth in scoring. He’s the third best player on the team with the best record in basketball. And his beard has the power to heal blindness. Those five things should add up to enough to trump Steve Nash or whoever Harden is going to get snubbed for.

“We have the best record in the league,” Harden said. “We’re playing very well as a team. I look at the guards [who weren't already voted in] in the West and there’s not very many that have been playing well. It’s all up to the coaches. I can only control what I can control and keep playing hard and play good.”

Why isn’t Harden generating the buzz that’s likely required to be a selection? Probably because he comes off the bench. He doesn’t have near the profile Russell Westbrook or Kevin Durant has and he’s not putting up numbers that can’t be ignored. Most nationally see him as a good role player on the team, but not All-Star material. Plus, there are like five other really, really good candidates. An All-Star selection is quite the honor because it’s not easy to get in.

I don’t think Harden should be an All-Star just by default of his position though. I think he should be one because he’s earned it. His value to the Thunder is something that can’t be understated. Oklahoma City would not be 20-5 without him. I guess the Thunder wouldn’t be 20-5 without Nick Collison either, but Harden’s numbers are good enough to merit consideration.  Is that enough for Harden to have his name called on TNT tonight? Probably not, but it should be.

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JeffSamples 6 pts

You typically become the all-star a year after you deserve it and you are an all-star a year after you don't deserve it. Harden will be an all-star next year IMO.

thehothand 32 pts

Harden deserves to be an all-star for sure... but i bet sam presti kinda shamefully doesn't want him to be one this year

kuddes6 6 pts

Also, Harden totally deserves to be an all-star. His efficiency and offensive ability (reading the defense, passing, cutting, all the little things) is all world. He'd win an all-star game for the west, because nobody else does the little things he does. Also, it's been said, but I heard that touching the Beard cured the Tsar's son's hemophilia.

kuddes6 6 pts

They wouldn't be 20-5 without Perk either. Eat it trolls.

kuddes6 6 pts

I should mention that I'm an irrational Perk fanboy :-)

justin_mia 1356 pts

kuddes6 That's for sure, we'd be 25-0

justin_mia 1356 pts

kuddes6 Sorry, couldn't resist...

kuddes6 6 pts

justin_mia Haha, I deserved it.

supreethm92 26 pts

He probably won't be picked this year, but since everyone will be talking about how he's going to be the well-known snub of this year's All-Star roster like LA last year, then he'll probably get picked up next year

ILikePancakes 1913 pts

Anyone who doesn't have an insider wants to read Hollinger's newest PER Diem? Basically explains how Spurs are flying under the radar again.

C_Dub 1092 pts

ILikePancakesunder the radar? They're one of three teams I think can actually win the title, with OKC and Miami being the others. They are good, and will be great when Manu returns. Rest of the league is down. SAS vs OKC in the wcf, Miami vs whoever in the East. Winner take all imo.

thehothand 32 pts

C_DubILikePancakes bulls could definitely win a title.

Skyline 433 pts

Okc could very well have 3 players on the West AS team and Brooks coaching!

Let's get DC in the 3pt contest, with Ibaka in dunk contest. Oh and don't forget Cole continuing the Thunder domination of Rookie v Soph game!

Just bring the All-Star game to Okc!

f5alcon 1018 pts

Skyline well david stern said we needed to have 6000 hotel rooms so somebody just needs to get a count of how many are in the metro, we have to be close.

Skyline 433 pts

f5alcon I can rent out a room or 2 at my house., Bed and Breakfast style!

Ozarkhick 239 pts

Skyline f5alcon Well there are easily 6,000 hotel rooms, just don't know if Jay z and Jack Nicholson want to stay next to a meth lab or at the Habana Inn.

I guess they mean fancy hotel rooms.

f5alcon 1018 pts

OzarkhickSkyline they might be cool with the meth lab

anonymous12345 343 pts

You know whats awesome? Last year Harden barely made the rookie-sophomre team as a replacement for Tyreke Evans. A year later he has a legit shot at the all-star game.

D@nny 91 pts

I'm encouraged that it's coaches picking--these guys have to actually game-plan for what Harden brings off of the bench (and they have a better sense of the subtleties that he brings to the game).

Still, I have a feeling that its tough for them to snub a guy like Nash who has earned the honors of that weekend (if only because of what he's given the league over a lengthy career). I imagine that the popular opinion is that Harden, like other young guys, can wait his turn. KD only made his first all-star team during his 3rd season (granted, the Thunder were much less relevent, but still...).

Am I the only one who thinks that the Beard (the actual beard) might be a bit of a marketing ploy? If you're a 6th man in a small market, you gotta do something to stick out...

Ozarkhick 239 pts

@D@nny Beards are in fashion with hipsters as of late, and Harden seems to have the most flamboyant fashion sensibilities on the team, so I don't think a flamboyant beard is that much of a surprise. As Brooks says "he's and artist type", and he also seems pretty smart, that's just the kind of guy you would expect to see in a beard these days.

RodneyRosavelRusanWilson 613 pts

Ozarkhick@nny i think he'll cut the beard one day.... i just cant imagine it tho.... i think he would look weird without it

Ozarkhick 239 pts

RodneyRosavelRusanWilson maybe he'll just change to one long king tut braid under his chin. I could see him doing that.

shorthorns4 15 pts

If/when Harden gets snubbed, he may start to think long and hard about coming off the bench. He'll never get the respect he deserves coming off the bench. I certainly think that could end up being a point of emphasis in his long term contract negotiations. Hope I am wrong.

TempBoy Brandon 216 pts

shorthorns4 Nah, he'll win 6th Man of the Year and his recognition and respect will go even higher. And if we make it to the Finals, even more recognition of his skills. I don't see Harden making a fuss over starting.

Skyline 433 pts

TempBoy Brandonshorthorns4 Harden could change his name to Yao Ming Harden and instantly be a starter next season!

RodneyRosavelRusanWilson 613 pts

he actually has a better chance than i thought he did...

the no brainers are: kevin love, westbrook and L.A..... and probably Marc Gasol even tho he's not in the playoffs as of now

but then its pretty up for grabs....u could argue tony parker, monta ellis, jefferson/milsap, nash... but all those players have flaws... tony just started ballin out, nash isnt in the playoffs, ditto for ellis, utah is an 8 seed...

im trying to not be a homer, but i think if i was a coach, id vote for harden... rather have the number 3 guy on a team with 5 losses than the number 1 guy on a team with 12

sylpkt 5 pts

How many reserves have been an all-star in recent years? Ginobili? (After years of production off the bench) maybe Kucoc back when Jordan and Pippen were around? If James continues to be a 6th man, it will take a couple years for him to get picked.

f5alcon 1018 pts

sylpkt manu was a starter the years he was an all star

JMattHicks 1745 pts moderator

I can honestly say that this is the first time I've truly disagreed with something on Daily Thunder.

"The simple explanation is that Harden is the second best shooting guard in the West behind Kobe Bryant. That should do it."

I'd take Manu over Harden, and that's not the Spurs homer in me talking. Now if we're talking about players currently healthy, sure, Harden because Ginobili is hurt. But I couldn't take a 100% healthy Harden over a 100% healthy Manu. Manu is a threat to go for 30+ any night.

RodneyRosavelRusanWilson 613 pts

JMattHicks Manu has only played 5 games, so yea.... he doesnt count

f5alcon 1018 pts

JMattHicks this is just for right now making the all star team, manu is not healthy

Jooseppi 975 pts

Worth keeping in mind that despite what we like to believe, the All-Star game isn't necessarily about the best players or even who is performing best. And that includes the coaches' vote, as well.

Keith00 100 pts

I think the fact Harden was listed as a forward (and can actually play some SF) might help. There are literally zero All-Star caliber SFs in the West behind KD (remember Gallinari is hurt so there's no point choosing him). While certainly there are number of PF candidates (enough they may not choose another center), you don't want K Love playing SF anymore than you want Monta Ellis doing the same.

I can think of 4 guards with better resumes than Harden. I can think of 3 big men with better cases. But, I'm not sure I can think of 7 non-starters that are better players.

Jooseppi 975 pts

Keith00 The coaches aren't required to vote by the position listing that is provided for the fan voting. Bosh was selected as a reserve center a few years ago despite being listed as a forward.

Keith00 100 pts

Jooseppi True, but there's a bigger difference between SF and PF than between PF and C (remember Dirk starting at SF last year). SF is more akin to the SG position, a wing position that requires ball-handling and perimeter skills. I'm not saying the coaches vote by position, I'm saying it might help that they saw "F" listed next to his name. They could look at the landscape and say, "Well, he's definitely the 2nd best SF in the West, Durant can't play all 48 minutes there.

iKidRobot 5 pts

what do you think about Monte Ellis?

Russbaka harKDen 9 pts

commented this on another topic...

I'll admit Ellis has a good argument based on the traditional stats (points, assists, steals).

Consider that Harden gets 7 less mpg and has a much lower usage rate than Monta. I guess I like The Beard's efficiency (47-36-87) over Monta's (43-27-80).

Throw in Harden's ability to cover 2's much better (largely a result of his 2-guard, not point guard) size and James has a case. Granted, it's not Ellis' fault he has to share a backcourt with Curry, it does impact Golden State's bottom line, winning.

Keith00 100 pts

Russbaka harKDen While that's a good argument for saying Harden is as good or a better player, it generally doesn't fly in All-Star picks. Traditional stats are all coaches have to go on in most cases, they aren't digging into the stats like we do.

Russbaka harKDen 9 pts

I agree with you, a lot of years it seems as much a popularity contest as the starters voted in by the fans. I wish I coach would think, "Who would help my team win more, player X or player Y" and choose that guy.

Keith00 100 pts

Russbaka harKDen If that can barely be instilled in GMs around the league, I doubt it will be happening to coaches anytime soon. But I completely agree. It's not like there are only 12 deserving players in each conference every year. Take everyone who is good enough (probably 15-20 in most years) and actually make the best team. It will STILL include the best players, but don't give teams extra (or fewer) spots because of record. Don't base it on fanbases or markets, just put together the best team available.

dancassidy35 464 pts

Let's see Harden this year and Ibaka next year.

Keith00 100 pts

dancassidy35 Best chance for that to happen is winning the championship this year. It will put all our players on a higher profile, and coaches will feel more inclined to give extra love to the Champs so long as we have a great record again.

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