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Wednesday Bolts – 2.2.11

The Hornets arrived safely in OKC last night and tonight’s game is set to go on as scheduled.

Mike Prada of SB Nation: “The Thunder are ultimately in a tough spot, with both Green and the state of their team. Green is a free agent, and the Thunder have to weigh several factors when making up their mind. Do they keep him and risk dooming themselves to below-average performance at a key spot on the floor, or do they lose him and risk pissing off Durant and their entire culture of youth? It’s a tough question, and one they can’t really solve into the offseason.”

Top free agents for the summer from Chad Ford:Green gets lost in the shadow of Kevin Durant, but he’s been solid in his own right in his first three and a half years in the league. He will never be the alpha dog, especially not in Oklahoma City, but he has proved to be a valuable role player. Green is one of the few guys on this list who could end up wearing a new uniform next season. The Thunder like him, but they gave Durant the max last summer and likely will do the same with Russell Westbrook this summer. As a small-market team, the Thunder may not be able or willing to give Green a big contract, too.”

ESPN award watch, where it’s still just Russell Westbrook in the MVP conversation.

Power rankings from CBS Sports where Dave Del Grande has another unpopular opinion: “All-Star update: At crunch time in the coaches’ voting, Russell Westbrook goes 7 for 22 with everyone watching against the Heat. It’s the tie-breaker. He’s out.”

I fully expected to get a good quote from Chris Bosh about the “fake tough guy” thing and we haven’t heard it yet. I wonder why.

Shaun Powell of NBA.com ranks the NBA’s most valuable (as in actual value) players: “Deep in the heart of football country, folks have fallen in love with basketball, mainly because of Durant, who almost single-handedly breathed life into the former Seattle Sonics.”

To me, Russell Westbrook is a no doubt All-Star. But he’ll find out Thursday if he’s in or not.

Trevor Ariza held KD scoreless in the fourth last game. Darnell Mayberry: “Ariza has helped to hound Durant into becoming a passer, a fact that also is reflected in the numbers. Durant has averaged four assists against the Hornets, one of only three teams the Thunder has played at least twice that Durant has averaged four or more assists against. It’s a credit to Durant’s willingness to make the right play but also speaks to Ariza’s effectiveness.”

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Dalambert is a hard one to figure the winning salary on.

Tyson Chandler likely stays with Dallas but you'd talk to his agent and at least get a feel for what's going on.

At this point I an no longer interested in Carl Landry.

Kendrick Perkins, interested.

Dalambert might be interested.

Glen Davis might be interested.

Chuck Hayes might be interested.

Marc Gasol very unlikely to not be countered.

DeAndre Jordan very good target. Might be able to offer more than Clips match... but probably not.

Greg Oden interested.

@Daniel Hawaii
I don't think I would be sad at all if on the first day of free agency Presti used up some of that freed up money from Krstic's expiring and Mo Pete's expiring and tossed it towards Marc Gasol. Make it enough that they won't match. I have no idea what that number would be, but if they wanted to trade with a S and T we could give them all sorts of our dirty laundry (Mullens, Green..).

Gasol protects the paint pretty well and he has a real nice touch around the basket.

There are some very interesting names on Chad Ford's list and many of them would suit the Thunder perfectly.

Of the Unrestricted FAs, #1 on the list is Tyson Chandler. Would we try to get him again? I still think he'd be perfect for our team. He'd probably command about $10 million a year though.

Other interesting unrestricted FA big men who we may consider: Carl Landry, Kendrick Perkins, Samuel Dalembert, Troy Murphy, Glen Davis, Chuck Hayes.

Some unrestricted FA shooters include: Jason Richardson, Jamal Crawford, Shane Battier, Peja Stojakovic, Jason Kapono, Sasha Vujacic, DeShawn Stevenson, and Michael Redd.

There are a nice bunch of restricted FA's too: Marc Gasol, DeAndre Jordan (who has a TON of potential), Wilson Chandler, Nick Young, Marcus Thornton, Al Thornton, Spencer Hawes and the most interesting of them all, Greg Oden.

I'm glad Presti saved his cap space for this offseason because there are a lot of names on this list that I wouldn't mind having in OKC. In fact, I'd be perfectly okay with letting Jeff Green go and nabbing one of the available big men.

Upon review Ibaka has considerably increased his frequency of games with more than 7 shots this season over last season but circumstance helped allow that and it might not ne as high going forward. Harden is about the same as last season and it probably should have gone up by his action and team assistance. Krstic is down a bit.

Green can be the 3rd option but Krstic, Ibaka and Harden rarely get to do more than 7 shots a game and have relatively little NBA experience "stepping up" and being the 2nd or 3rd option, if a game needs that. When both Durant and Westbrook have such high usages there is little room for that "development".

Thomas :
Yes Del Grande, that’s what we do when deciding all-stars, look at a single, arbitrarily chosen game from shortly before the deadline. Seriously? And this guy gets paid to come up with stuff like this. Nice work if you can get it I guess.

its del grande he hates oklahoma

OKC, Miami and Chicago get the least shots per game out of their 4th option. But Chicago will be better off when Noah comes back and Miami could expand the role of Miller. I would guess that it will probably trip up at least 1 of them in the playoffs. Miami and Chicago have the offsetting benefit of top rated defenses. Not the Thunder.

@Diane
House got the fine for doing the "big balls" gesture that Sam Cassell made famous. I don't think we did anything to precipitate that.

I know KD is supposedly tight with Green but there comes a time when you've got to be detached and look at this from a basketball standpoint, I think in his heart of hearts he knows that as well as anyone. It makes no sense to continue to cram a natural small forward into the power forward position.

Thank god Brooks isn't making the final decision as to whether Green would be re-signed. Lord knows he'd probably keep Green over Russ at this point.

I got my driveway shoveled but my husband took the car out and said the roads are too bad to go to the game. I'm being a cry baby.

And

I am upset about the $25,000 fine on Eddie House - not that he got it but that some OKC fan would say something that would make him that mad or was that just a general thing to everybody?

And what is ICE doing taking down web sites? Too much time on their hands?

Yes Del Grande, that's what we do when deciding all-stars, look at a single, arbitrarily chosen game from shortly before the deadline. Seriously? And this guy gets paid to come up with stuff like this. Nice work if you can get it I guess.

But it appears he still wasn't consistently good on defense in that playoffs and his offense impact wasn't enough and the Lakers were probably betting it wouldn't be.

Compare Westbrook's playoffs to this season and he was better on FG%, rebounding, turnovers and Adjusted +/- in that playoff series against Fisher. Lower on usage too. I'd rather have that Russell than this regular season version.

Defense doesn't matter in the All-Star game the way they play them. But ideally it should matter in who goes. But I don't really care about the All-Star or awards, just playoff success. His performance last spring is the best thing going for Westbrook.

Westbrook 6th on assists% and 8th on assists per game but team is 27-28th on assists. How much credit does he gets for one or blame for the other? 19th on team eFG%, 2nd of team TO%. It is not a simple case.

RW has 3 triple doubles and better numbers than D-Rose in almost every category. There is no way RW isn't an All-Star and D-Rose is one. And since when does defense matter in the All-star game. It's all about scoring and electricity. That's why RW is going to make it and Blake Griffin as well.

This Domain has been seized by ICE

@anonymous
If by "nfl" you mean "government"

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/02/technology/sports_...

HOMELAND SECURITY!!! THE TERRORISTS ARE WATCHING OUR SPORTS!!!

@okc baby
If by 'government' you mean 'nfl'. Its all about stopping illegal viewing of the super bowl.

All the streaming sites are getting seized by the Government. Freakin Bush

"No team surrenders more shot attempts right at the rim"

Usually when you are good at limiting shots at the rim you are getting good PG pressure on and control of the ball. When you don't have that, you can end up getting burned pretty bad. Of course other guys have responsibility too.

Prada's article is pretty good on most things but not in my mind on Westbrook being among the most underrated. I'd say he is one of the most recently over-rated. But we will see what the coaches do.

Low eFg%, well below average 3pt FG%,top5 on turnovers, inconsistent defense but on average team defense with him on the court is worse on defensive efficiency and the scoreboard than for any team player besides Green and his man does better than his average.

@TempBoy Brandon

Russ "makes it" on a few things (like free throws and assists) but not "everything but Adjusted +/-".

I missed Amare. He isn;t top 50 on 1 year or 2 year Adjusted +/- either though he is doing better this season.

"How many coaches look at Adjusted +/-?"

I'd guess almost for sure under 10, probably under 5 regularly, in depth and with understanding, probably less. But that's on them.

Crow, yeah, I guess they could base their decisions strictly on Adjusted +/-... or they could look at every other single statistic or actually watch the game tape. Based on those things, Russ makes it.

On the top 10 cited on the Most Valuable Player Watch list. only Rose and Westbrook are not in the top 50 for 2 season traditional Adjusted +/-.

Rose improves his case by being 4th best on 1 year Adjusted +/-.

Westbrook was in the mid-20s on 2 season traditional Adjusted +/- last season but has fallen to near league average this season on that metric. He is about 90th on the alternative regularized Adjusted +/-. The numbers not fully agree as to whether it is mainly defense slippage or that and not elevating the offense over what it does without him as much as he did before.

How many coaches look at Adjusted +/-?

Curry is deserving of All-Star consideration given his individual stats and great Adjusted +/-.

Someone recently compared Harden to Foye. I don't think it stays that way but for their first 2 seasons it is close with Harden the better at getting to the line and Foye the more active passer given more time at PG.

He will probably get better. He may get in next year or the year after. If the coaches give it to him this year I won't be that impressed with their judgment.

To me. Westbrook is not yet an All-Star guard in the west and it is not even that close, all things considered including Adjusted +/-. He looks good on PER and that is about it because of his extremely high usage.

Doof, I'll take you up on that! :)

A few things... so one "expert" says that Russ is 6th in MVP, and another expert says he doesn't make the All Star game. Dumb. And that guy's reasoning? 7-22 shooting in one game? Ignoring the fact that he was 3 rebounds away from his 4th triple double in one month? Dumb. Oh, and the fact that KD isn't in the top 10 of the MVP watch? Dumb.

I'll trade someone my lower level tickets for dinner delivered to my house :)

Man, if we hold on to Jeff Green because it angers KD, I'll be pissed.

Bulls traded Oakley for Cartwright despite MJ's opposition, pretty sure that worked out for them. Screw chemistry if it keeps the team from getting better.

qrex :@DSMok1

Is traveling the day of the game (v. the night before) a factor?

I've never studied that... but aren't most 4-in-5's with the team traveling the night before?

I'm planning on being there. This is a big game.

I fully expected to get a good quote from Chris Bosh about the “fake tough guy” thing and we haven’t heard it yet. I wonder why

apparently he had something to say about it in the locker room after the game, according to the NBA-Today-Podcast with Mike Yam and Chris Forsberg...

I'm planning on going... It should be the first sparse crowd of the season...

@DSMok1
Is traveling the day of the game (v. the night before) a factor?

@Joe
I thought I had read something about Bosh saying he understood KD's reaction and didn't blame him for it. I think maybe the two of them talked about it or something, similar to how KD talked to Josh Smith after the ATL game.

@anonymous
wish i could get out of my house....

Doh! I was looking for the Baylor/OU game on tv last night and couldn't figure out why it wasn't on. It didn't occur to me that it had been cancelled because of the weather.

for anyone in norman, free admission for the 2 oclock game against baylor that was cancelled last night.

@Joe
Plus he's a fake tough guy so he's not gonna stand up for himself :)

I think it's great that Bosh is keeping quiet about the flap up. Nothing better to keep a controversy brewing than to stoke it, so why do it. Just say nothing. Take the high road.

I'm gonna go tonight. I'm getting cabin fever, so I'm gonna give it a shot. Plus, I bet they let all of us Loud City people go down to the lower levels tonight.

I wonder if the players are going to try to drive in themselves tonight or if the Thunder is gonna have someone go around and pick them up.

@f5alcon
I would if I could get my car out of the garage. I've got 3 foot drifts in my driveway

@DSMok1

+ KD's anger at being shut out in the 4th quarter. How much is that worth?