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The Thunder plays really bad, loses to Memphis in OT 105-101

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I know this just counts as one, but I think we should petition the NBA to give Oklahoma City three losses for this game. Because it was that bad.

Seriously, it was a complete disaster. Turnovers: 24 (a season-high). Missed free throws: eight. Field goal percentage: 41.2 percent. Games in five nights for the Grizzlies: four. Minutes for Memphis’ best player, Rudy Gay: zero. Points for Tony Freaking Allen: 27. Good shots at the buzzer for the Thunder in a tie game: zero.

I feel like I could write this whole things with stats like that.

Early on, it looked like the Thunder was going to take care of business the way they should. They held a pretty good 10-point cushion throughout the first half. But the Grizzlies outscored OKC 30-17 in the third quarter, mainly because they went 13-14 from the free throw line to the Thunder’s 0-0.

The Thunder never executed well in the fourth quarter, but found themselves with the ball and a chance to win with the game tied at 95-95 with 21 seconds left. And I think we all knew what would happen. A bad shot at the buzzer was coming and there was nothing we could do about it.

Seriously, why is it so hard for OKC to run a decent set and get their best player an OK shot at the buzzer? Twenty-nine other teams can do it. The play was for Russell Westbrook to dribble out the clock until about eight seconds and then Nenad Krstic was setting a pick to free Kevin Durant from Tony Allen. Except the pick was horrible and Westbrook couldn’t get him the ball. That’s the problem though, it was just a simple screen by Krstic, who is a bad screener, to free KD. You’ve got to do better than that at the end of a game in getting the ball to your best player. Scott Brooks deserves blame for running a one screen play with no good second option. But the players also deserve a bunch for not executing at all. When things go wrong like that, everyone screwed up.

It almost looked like the Thunder thought all they had to do was show up to win this game. They defended really well in the first half, but then stopped moving their feet and helping in the third quarter. They made stupid passes, handled the ball sloppily and didn’t take good shots. The starters were all negatives, with Memphis’s starters all double-digit pluses (except for Mike Conley who was a +9). Even if the Thunder had won, it was going to be a terrible, terrible win. But let this be a lesson to us all: Winning these type of games sure feels a lot better than losing. We’ve seen a good amount of ugly wins this year and complained about them, but man, what I’d give to have one more point than the Grizzlies right now.

NOTES:

  • Oklahoma City is now 5-1 in overtime games. The Thunder went just 2-9 in the extra five minutes, only getting Durant one look, which he made.
  • The Thunder killed Memphis on the glass 58-36. Look at that. 58-36! And they lost! Are you kidding me?
  • More rebounding: OKC had 18 offensive boards to Memphis’ six. No way the Thunder should lose this game with a stat like that.
  • Westbrook: eight turnovers. He did have 21 points and 11 rebounds too though.
  • Jeff Green: 2-12, seven points, seven rebounds, four turnovers. Let’s move on.
  • Actually, hang on because I know everyone will be pointing at that. Yeah, Green stunk tonight. But keep in mind he just played two GREAT offensive games. So he couldn’t make a shot in this one. But I don’t really think he was taking bad ones or anything. He was 1-3 from 3, with one being a heave at the end of the shot clock. And you know what, I actually think he did a better job on Zach Randolph than Serge Ibaka. Green fought Randolph. He battled to front him and Randolph didn’t really get many touches with Green on him. I don’t know if Green could’ve kept that up for the entire game which is why Brooks went with Collison and Ibaka on Randolph in the second half, but still, he worked hard on him.
  • Oh, but one moment that made me want to kick a small animal with Jeff Green. With 6:20 left in the fourth, Randolph beat Ibaka and put a shot up in the lane that hit long on the iron. Ibaka was too far under the rim because Randolph backed him there, but Green seriously just stood and watched as Randolph pulled in an offensive rebound. This is the No. 1 thing that drives me nuts with Green. He just does not attack the glass for some reason. How many rebounds can you think of where Green went way up and pulled it in? Everything he gets is because it bounced to him. Why doesn’t he ever go get the ball?
  • Westbrook was pretty key in getting the Thunder back in position to win in regulation. But in a big possession with the game tied 92-92, Westbrook brought the ball up, didn’t pass once and took a long, contested 2-pointer. It’s what you live with, with Westbrook. It was a pretty bad shot, but then again, he’s prone to make those. So it’s forgivable.
  • The Grizzlies defend. Give them credit for that. Tony Allen was a menace on KD. The Thunder couldn’t get anything going to the rim or in the paint. They worked on the Thunder.
  • James Harden was pretty good at creating offense for OKC. He had 13 points, went 2-3 from 3 and took five free throws. Except he only played 23 minutes. I don’t get it. The Thunder went big for the most part with Westbrook, Durant, Green, Ibaka and Collison, but I really think you have to put Harden on the floor. So take Green out, slide KD back to small forward and give Harden minutes. On a night Green is 2-12, let the offensive player have some time.
  • Serge Ibaka had 14 rebounds and three blocks in 32 minutes. But two big plays he dropped easy points. Those two baskets would’ve been big in the end.
  • Durant had a mediocre good game. He went 12-25 from the floor, scored 31 points and grabbed 10 rebounds, but it didn’t feel like he played that great.
  • OKC, 34 fouls. Memphis, 24.
  • The Thunder went 7-19 from 3. That’s pretty good. Coming off the 13-21 game, maybe OKC is turning it up a bit from deep. That would be nice.
  • A new little game we’re going to play from now on: Did Brian Davis really say that? Tonight’s entry: “Ooooh, ahhh, oooh-ooooh, ahhhhhhh. Ooooooooooooooooh.”

The real shame here is that the Thunder blew an opportunity for a good winning streak heading into the All-Star break. With Sacramento, Golden State and Sacramento again ahead, OKC easily could’ve had seven straight in its pocket. You don’t get games like this back where you had every opportunity to beat a team without its best player and on the fourth in five nights. But the Thunder blew this one. We’ll forget about it soon enough, but for at least four days until the Thunder plays again, we’ll definitely be thinking about this one.

Next up: At Sacramento Saturday.

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C_Dub :
This passes the Clippers game and Dallas game was the worst of the year, possibly the worst in the OKC era. Horrible, just sickening giving the circumstances.

2nd San Antonio loss?

I thought some how the guys would pull out the game - and I think they did too - but I knew with about 1:50 to go in OT and no one went for the rebound on one of our missed baskets we weren't going to win.

walker :
We lost this game because we didn’t take it serious until it was to late.They played like it was going to be an easy win.Young players thinking they are better than they really are.
And of course Brooks plays into that mentality with his comment to them before OT that we're 5-0 in overtime. Sure it's also a pep talk, but I really think they believe they can win anytime they feel like it. Not always a bad thing, but the coach needs start coaching and not relying on them somehow pulling it off.

last night's game was not a dream.

Thomas :@Daniel HawaiiI think you’re spot on Daniel. The sloppy play really got them going. How many turnovers did Tony Allen create. It felt like he had a hand on every ball in the 2d half.

I agree. I kept saying, "How many times are we gonna let Allen jump our passes!" Yes, he was playing good defense, but he was also gambling. We should have burned him on those gambles instead of letting him use our money.

I am really trying hard not to take it personally when we play this bad. Maybe I'll start going to the Tulsa games and see how they're coaching is.

This passes the Clippers game and Dallas game was the worst of the year, possibly the worst in the OKC era. Horrible, just sickening giving the circumstances.

It has gotten to the point where I hope teams make their comeback before halftime, because otherwise we come out flat and let them run us out of the building in the second half. God this game was ugly.

@Daniel Hawaii
Memphis also didn't get called for a foul in the 3rd quarter while OKC was called for 8 or 9. That definitely helped them get back in the game

We lost this game because we didn't take it serious until it was to late.They played like it was going to be an easy win.Young players thinking they are better than they really are.

@Daniel Hawaii
I think you're spot on Daniel. The sloppy play really got them going. How many turnovers did Tony Allen create. It felt like he had a hand on every ball in the 2d half.

We lost for one simple reason: we took them too lightly without Gay and Mayo.

You could just tell we didn't play with any urgency whatsoever. We had a nice lead at halftime and I'm sure the guys thought they were going to coast in the 2nd half.

Then we started getting sloppy with the ball and that lead to fast breaks for the Grizzlies. All of a sudden, they are back in the game and feeling good. Then, once they got the score close enough, they could go back to feeding the monster known as Zack Randolph.

By the time we realized we had to take them seriously, it was too late.

This is an extremely bad loss, but hopefully it serves as a wake-up call that you can't just sleepwalk through games against NBA talent and expect to win. Hopefully they remember that with games against the Warriors, Kings and Clippers coming up.

Too bad. I would've really liked to have had an 8-game winning streak going into the All-Star break, but that can't happen now.

Can't wait to watch OKC play the Warriors at Oracle!

@TC_42

You have the gist of it.

From what I gathered from basketballvalue.com:

Comparing OKC's starting lineup purely against every other teams' starting lineup in terms of plus/minus... OKC's ranks 25th. The teams below are Toronto, New Jersey, Minnesota, and Utah.

But...

Out of 20 combinations of units the Thunder have put on the floor this season, the starting 5 of Westbrook, Thabo, Durant, Green, and Krstic ranks 19th in terms of plus/minus for the season. Is there another team whose starting lineup is virtually the worst unit it can put on the court? I don't think so.

Terrible ugly game, but credit where credit is due: Tony Allen was fantastic on KD all night. It's a credit to KD that he scored as much as he did; that was one of the best individual performances on KD on D that I've seen this season. So much so that I'm not even sure Memphis would have won with Rudy Gay getting his regular minutes.

“We usually do a pretty good job of executing late game, and we’ve gotten a lot better with all the close games that we’ve had,” Brooks said

I have to say. It feels like OKC really doesn't get a home court advantage from the Refs. This may just be my perception, I don't know if it's in any way backed up by actual statistics, but it sure feels like we sometimes don't get calls at home that other teams would while playing at home.

@osano-whoa

There was a three minute stretch in the 2nd quarter also.

Whats the comparison of the starting unit to the Bench's affectiveness?

justin :

osano-whoa :
Did we really get 22 more rebounds than Memphis? I guess that big lineup is good for rebounding.

I don’t think the big lineup had much to do with it. They went big with something like 7 minutes left in the fourth, and Jeff Green didn’t have any rebounds from that point to the end of the game aside from that tip in late when it was over.

I seem to recall us going big earlier in the game as well, though I could be wrong.

82games hasn't been updated since 1/19 so keep that in mind when looking at those numbers. The starting lineup has had some real stinkers since then.

Keep the starting lineup just limit there minutes.

@TC_42
Like 82games.com or basketballvalue.com? Check the five-man units on those sites and you'll get a good sense of it.

@TC_42
Ummmm You must be new here. Welcome, you have found your people!

Is there a website or something that can be used to determine how effective a starting lineup is? Such as where the Thunder's starting lineup ranks in effectiveness compared to other teams' starting lineups?

These turnovers killed us.
And I dont know why Brooks likes Collison-Ibaka-KD-Green-Russ.4 forwards were playing together and Harden was on bench.

osano-whoa :
Did we really get 22 more rebounds than Memphis? I guess that big lineup is good for rebounding.

I don't think the big lineup had much to do with it. They went big with something like 7 minutes left in the fourth, and Jeff Green didn't have any rebounds from that point to the end of the game aside from that tip in late when it was over.

justin :@sbliss

So are you the new troll, or something?

Probably not. You seem to post here more often than anyone else. You seem to make statements that are intended to be definitive. I just thought I'd test your ability to argue. I don't know the NBA real well, but do I know how to build winning organizations and how to test whether someone knows their stuff or not.

Did we really get 22 more rebounds than Memphis? I guess that big lineup is good for rebounding.

okc baby :
Tony Allen hussles every game. I like that about his game.

Nights like tonight remind you of how good he was in college. Its easy to forget but he was awesome at OSU.

okc baby :Tony Allen hussles every game. I like that about his game.

Eddie encourages that. :) Go Pokes!

Tony Allen hussles every game. I like that about his game.

Just got back from the game, pretty unhappy. A lot of things had to go wrong this game. Bad effort, bad reffing, and the absolutely unacceptable coaching decision from Brooks to play Green 44 minutes tonight.

I think I'm kind of done with Green. Like, I just don't have any remaining emotional attachment to him, and I'm just kind of ready for him to not be on this team in any capacity any more. I think I'm going to put my Go Green shirt deep in the back of the closet with all the other shirts I don't ever wear. I'd ask for a go White shirt but I think people might get the wrong idea.

Also, is sbliss like a really elaborate scheme from the Don?

I was at the game tonight. The energy just wasn't there. The team looked lazy and the crowd was apathetic. KD especially didn't hustle on defense. His stat line will look good, but the truth is thst many of Tony Allen's points came easy because Durant was lazy on D.

RemembertheSonics :
The ownership group and Presti don’t really care about winning a title. They just want to be competitive every year and get into the playoffs, just like several other teams in the NBA. So long as RW and KD are on this team, and nobody changes the offense, this team will never win a championship…

I completely disagree with this statement. The guys that own this team could care less how much money the team from year to year. They build billion dollar buildings, they get the Chinese to pay for drilling thousands of gas wells. Their companies spend as much money every day as this franchise is worth.

This is about one thing for sure, community pride, and then perhaps, secondarily, long term capital appreciation. Even looking away from the community pride component, capital appreciation is better realized through championships than any other means.

@gr8ball83
How were Cook shots at warm-up?

It seemed to me that Westbrook didn't even start playing until the second half. I'm lazy, so I haven't looked at the extended stat breakdown to prove this theory, but I think more than 1/2 of his turnovers and WAY less than 1/2 of his points came in the first half.

As for Uncle Jeff, his attitude was just wrong, wrong, WRONG!! That play in the third when we were down by 3 and he and Harden had a 2 on 1 and he just threw some half-assed crap up at the goal--which Harden tried to alley-oop behind the back of his head?!?!? Are you kidding me? I thought Brooks' head was going to spin around and pop off. The icing on the cake was that he seemed to be still smiling about it 2 or 3 plays later. He lolly-gagged over to the scorer's table late in the fourth and winked (YES WINKED!!!) at Grant Long's little red-headed side-kick. This is not acceptable from our #3 first team scoring option when we are down late in a game. Any game. EVER.

OKC deserved to lose, and they did. At least we can be righteously angry with the team without someone saying, "a win is a win." This is why we point out weaknesses and problems in ugly wins, because when they don't get fixed, they lead to ugly losses. I hope our first round playoff opponent doesn't have a quality PF, because I think we can lose to anyone in that case.

OK 2 things,

number 1, I had a terrible view of our offensive half of the court in the 3rd quarter, so can someone please tell me if Memphis really didn't foul us the entire quarter??

Number 2, after watching the warmups I'm not surprised at all how terrible we played. It seriously looked like we were just screwing around the entire time. Nobody was actually warming up, or really taking legit shots except Cook and Collison that I could see. I wasn't surprised at all how badly we started out shooting.

Harden had a overall good game. Cant really focus on 2 turnovers he had. There were alot of downers in this game.

@sbliss

So are you the new troll, or something?

@gr8ball83
Me to. After he missed Maynor pass and they went to the bench he sat down with is head down palms out probably saying why cant I catch the ball. Felt bad for the guy

justin :@sbliss

Two turnovers over the course of this game were not big turnovers. To run a successful offense, you need to space the floor. That doesn’t matter in games like Utah or Phoenix when everyone is making shots from the perimeter, but in this game, the way Memphis was playing, you need Harden in the game.
Harden had a good game. 13 points on 9 FGA, he was alright defensively (certainly would have been better on Sam Young than Green), he spaces the floor and he’s an extra ball handler on the court. If you’re going to invalidate Harden’s game based on one ball handling turnover, I’m afraid there’s no way to reason with bias like that.

It was the accompanying momentum switch, one of those intangible elements of any sporting event that means everything. He made back to back careless plays (2) of them. One throwing the ball 3/4 of the floor out of bounds and the other the ball handling mistake. Why do you think Maynor was in his face. He was showboating with a lead and that's just not smart.

RemembertheSonics :
The ownership group and Presti don’t really care about winning a title. They just want to be competitive every year and get into the playoffs, just like several other teams in the NBA. So long as RW and KD are on this team, and nobody changes the offense, this team will never win a championship…

I've wondered this myself but ultimately I have come to conclude otherwise. Aubrey McClendon is not someone who is accepting of also ran status in any of his ventures.

Any chance we can teach Ibaka to catch or are we destined to a future of him cutting wide open to the basket and us not being able to pass him the ball because he can't catch. I seriously felt bad for him tonight. Its not an effort thing. Those 2 passes to him that he missed, on the second Harden came back shaking his head and shrugging at Ibaka like, "what can I do? I gave you a perfect pass, what else can I do?". I absolutely love Ibaka and hope he doesn't have "stone hands", that he just hasn't had that much experience catching passes like that.

Also, we played absolutely terrible, we didn't deserve to win the game. But they didn't call A SINGLE FOUL ON MEMPHIS IN THE ENTIRE 3RD QUARTER!!!! Seriously?!? How does that happen??

sbliss :
Boy do you guys need some new blood or at least a new set of eyes. Jeff Green is a fine basketball player. Granted, he is probably being asked to play out of position, but he is not someone you get rid of unless the return is really big, say Love.

No, he's someone you get rid of because he's a free agent and we don't want to end up overpaying for a guy playing out of position, or in the alternative end up with nothing. If you engineer something to trade him away now at least you'll get another piece potentially.

@Hawaiian Rob
Same here bout being apathetic...a loss like this was bound to happen, especially after flirting with disaster a number of times in the last few wks. Let's see how the team responds to this loss.

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