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Thunder at Spurs: Pregame Primer

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OKC Thunder (23-11, 10-5 road) at San Antonio Spurs (28-4, 18-2 home)

TV: FSOK (Cox 37, HD 722, Tulsa Cox 27, DirectTV 679, UVerse 754)
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Radio: WWLS The Sports Animal (98.1 FM, 640 AM, 97.1 FM Tulsa)
Time: 7:30 CT

Offensive Rating: Thunder – 109.8 (8th), Spurs – 112.5 (1st)
Defensive Rating: Thunder – 107.0 (17th), Spurs – 103.7 (9th)
Pace: Thunder – 93.1 (11th), Spurs – 93.1 (12th)

View from the enemy: 48 Minutes of Hell

Playing the best team in basketball New Year’s Day on the second of a back-to-back? Not. Easy. But you know what? I have a strangely good feeling about this game. No good or reasonable reason why, but I just feel like the Thunder’s playing better basketball lately and will be ready.

San Antonio coming in: The Spurs have won three straight and 13 of 14. Really, if you want to extend that, they’ve won 28 of 32. They last played Thursday in Dallas.

THE MATCHUPS
What killed Oklahoma City in the first meeting wasn’t Tim Duncan. It wasn’t Manu Ginobili. It really wasn’t Tony Parker or DeJuan Blair. It was Matt Bonner and his 6-6 performance from 3. The Spurs utilize the drive-and-kick as well as anyone and they’ve got the shooters to knock ‘em down. George Hill, Bonner, Gary Neal, Richard Jefferson — basically everybody on the freaking roster can shoot. I think even Gregg Popovich would knock down a corner 3 or two if someone threw him the ball.

Kevin Durant hasn’t ever really struggled with the Spurs to a great extent, but they always seem to hold in relative check. KD has never really had a huge opportunity to explode. Russell Westbrook will be key in providing a scoring lift as well as James Harden. With the way Harden’s been playing there’s reason to be encouraged. He needs a nice 15-18 points off the bench tonight for OKC for sure.

Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison and company will have to do strong work on the glass to keep Blair, Duncan and the rest of the Spurs off the offensive boards to some degree. Second shots and extended possessions are one of the big ways San Antonio kills teams.

The Spurs didn’t lose at home in December and have won 18 of 20 overall there. This won’t be easy. But it’s a big opportunity to make a statement or at least get a small measure as to where the Thunder’s at. The first meeting was nip and tuck for three quarters before the Spurs cranked it up, much like the Mavericks game. Let’s hope we don’t see that happen a third time.

Tip at 7:30 CT. Go 2011 Thunder.

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justin :@Keith
Our starting lineup features only one 30% 3PT shooter, only one guy who can dribble through space, only one guy who is a willing passer near the rim, only a couple guys who can reliably hit an open mid range jump shot, nobody who can finish on a pick and roll. It doesn’t leave many options open.

Brilliant Justin! What a perfect illustration of how pathetic our starting lineup is offensively. Bravo, sir!

I trust Presti knows what we need.

Pullin triggers. Let the man do his job. I think hes done a pretty good job so far. How old is this team now? STFU

David :
This is sad. We’re going to win in Memphis, surely, and I have a feeling it’s going to happen in Dallas. Sigh. When will Serge get the start over Green? When will we trade for a real big man. Surely there are some to be had that would not screw us up bad enough, even with the new pending CBA.

@David

Not Really. Given the way this team is built we don't really have that many trade assets that we would want to use without disrupting what this team is. Trust the Process.

Presti has shown that he will pull the trigger on a deal if it works for him. There is obviously nothing out there that he likes right now

Lineups:
Anything minus sefanoshow and kristi:)

This is sad. We're going to win in Memphis, surely, and I have a feeling it's going to happen in Dallas. Sigh. When will Serge get the start over Green? When will we trade for a real big man. Surely there are some to be had that would not screw us up bad enough, even with the new pending CBA.

KDthunderup: Listen to killa cam and vado on the way back to Okc...don't even wanna talk about that damn game...movin on

jhoan :
atlanta of the west. man.. thats disappointing to realize…

I'd been thinking that exact same thing until that '05 Wizards comparison came up the other day, which is even worse.

@Ozark

I think they spent all their energy trying to sink up zaireeka

Damn, glad I missed this one.

So....

i guess the team went across the street last night to the Flaming Lips concert, and everybody dropped acid at midnight, still feeling the after-effects today. That way, the could "smell" The Soft Bulletin.

I know I did.

Oh well, I guess I will go over to zappos.com and watch the fat, ugly models show of the inventory. *sigh*

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APC :
I’ll agree that our players just seem to be stupid. How many of them even graduated college? And why can’t they read basic offensive sets that the Spurs use over and over? Does this team even listen to the scouts, or even pay attention to what’s going on in the game?
Also, these Spurs announcers are huge homers. Only slightly less annoying than the Celtics announcers. And at least Serge is having a great game (Splitter sucks, people said this guy would make the Spurs contenders – they’re contending despite him).

Kobe and LeBron didn't even go to college! what the hell kind of stupid shit is this

@Joshua G

We cut the lead to nine and got a stop. Then Thabo Sefolosha forced a shot in traffic on the break (missing an open player), Spurs came back down the court and Jeff Green committed a dumb touch foul on Jefferson for the three point play. That five point swing killed the momentum. The next time down the court, though, Jeff Green settled for a mid-range jumper (bricked), then we got another stop, but Thabo turned it over in transition. Blair then hit a wide open shot on Jeff Green.

That whole sequence killed the game. Krstic can't really guard Duncan, but I don't think he was that bad in this one.

@David

Ibaka was great. Then for some strange reason, Brooks left Krstic in for the first 8 minutes or so of the second half. We gave it away in the first quarter, surely. But it looked like we might fight back in during the second. Then we gave it back away in the 3rd. I'm not exactly sure who to blame for it all though. Pretty much everyone played pretty poorly.

Tibor Pleiss with 20 points, 6 rebounds and 5 blocks in his teams win the other day. Brose Baskets, his team, is now 16-0 in league play.

So people who watched the game give me the DL. At the very least, Ibaka's box score looks decent. Too bad our "bounce back" game is the one against Memphis rather than the one against Dallas. I still think we can beat the Mavs. Not confident about beating the Spurs, ever.

Hopefully Grizzles can do us a favorite and beat the Jazz tonight...

I know the Spurs has been very good so far this year, but now I can see why. Even people say they changed from a defensive team to an offensive team, but they still can defend and score more...

Well, I guess it was a good thing i was forced into family game night. This just shows how FAR away our team is from being elite. As much as I hate Barkley, he is, unfortunately, right about us. If Presti doesn't make a trade soon, we are in big time trouble. First round bounce, here we come.

Dylan :San Antonio should stop shooting and trying to score. The game is over, quit disrespecting the game.

Ha, ha... Dylan, you still pissed because you had to throw away your son's RW jeresy!?
Sorry, just kdding... :p

San Antonio should stop shooting and trying to score. The game is over, quit disrespecting the game.

@Joe

Our team essentially plays like a YMCA gym game. It's too bad because there's a lot of talent.

Spurs announcer, sarcastically: "Well, Scott Brooks says 'I've seen enough of a YMCA open gym' and calls a timeout"

Man, when another team's announcers are clowning on us - especially these douches - you know things are bad.

And I don't see how it isn't obvious to everyone how much better Harden is playing with either or both of Durant and Westbrook. Just look at him the past few games and compare that with the Harden of the end of this game.

We're only going to be favored in one game in our next seven (at home against Memphis, not a gimme).

Mark! :
It looks like the offense is taking care of itself.

I feel our guy is going to get the rebound every time, don't you?

Westbrook has been in AI-scoring mode lately. Lots of 23 on 20, 16 on 15, etc. As bad as that is... Jeff Green almost always goes for 12 on 15 or close to it. Not good.

Well, the only thing I am waiting to see if Spurs is going for a basket in the less than 6 secs or so just to piss off the Thunder...

It looks like the offense is taking care of itself.

Ibaka only got credited with 3 blocks? Seems like he had a lot more.

Like, for argument's sake, if you stick Marcus Camby in the starting lineup on this team I think it would have a big effect on how the rest of the team responds and plays. I don't really want Camby, but that kind of player in a prominent role is important for this team to develop properly. Nick is good and all, but I don't think he's the same kind of influence.

atlanta of the west. man.. thats disappointing to realize...

We need a veteran in the starting lineup who can lead these guys and calm them down. I dunno who that could be, but when faced with adversity this team goes down the tubes far too often.

APC :I’ll agree that our players just seem to be stupid. How many of them even graduated college?

Ah... Not sure if BBIQ has anything to do with college degrees...

@APC@Anonymous

I'm not going that far. I don't think our players are actually dumb, they just have a very bad tendency to play that way. You watch them make plays that have no logic behind them or even high school level bball IQ.

I think Kevin Durant is much more reliable defensively than Russell Westbrook.

@Steve H
Trading Green doesn't guarantee us a center. As it is, we simply have no identity. Durant and Westbrook obviously want to be an offensive team, but don't really play smart enough in the face of adversity for that to work. Defense would be nice, but it seems obvious that we don't have the coaching to motivate our players on that end nor properly prepare them in the system.

I think the Cleveland's announcers were the worst when LeBron played there.

See how Harden gets involved when Durant and RW are on the bench? He looks more comfortable.

@APC

They're all young and haven't exactly been developed under luminary coaching minds.

We need some veterans on the team really bad. The only guy on the team who really has some basketball smarts is Nick Collison.

I'll agree that our players just seem to be stupid. How many of them even graduated college? And why can't they read basic offensive sets that the Spurs use over and over? Does this team even listen to the scouts, or even pay attention to what's going on in the game?

Also, these Spurs announcers are huge homers. Only slightly less annoying than the Celtics announcers. And at least Serge is having a great game (Splitter sucks, people said this guy would make the Spurs contenders - they're contending despite him).

man these spurs announcers are just horrible. god damn i have never heard anything more annoying.

I think we can go ahead and set the "January-Is-Going-To-Suck-Unless-We-Trade-Green-For-A-Center-O'Meter" at 0-1.

Bob :@justin

That has more to do with Ibaka and Collison than Harden.

No it doesn't, Ibaka and Collison haven't played with each other nearly as much this year.

@Keith

Yep. This is what happened to the team in the playoffs against the Lakers and against any team that's prepared it will continue to happen. It's ridiculously easy to get OKC rattled on offense. After you stop them a few times on the set plays Westbrook, Durant etc. will just try to win on their own.

Is it really any surprise, though? Our starting lineup features only one 30% 3PT shooter, only one guy who can dribble through space, only one guy who is a willing passer near the rim, only a couple guys who can reliably hit an open mid range jump shot, nobody who can finish on a pick and roll. It doesn't leave many options open.

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