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I have a question. Whats Greens roll in this team? i just don't anymore. Half of his rebounds were from tip outs by his team-mates, or oh look what i found types. Collison job is to defend pick n rolls, rotate, box out, and set screens. Kristics job is to screen, and pop(kinda sad thats all he can do), and Ibaka's job is to Defend, and Rebound. Its a plus that Ibaka has develop a mid-range jumper. Green is suppose to rebound. Don't tell me the offense runs through him. He's suppose to take his open shots, and rebound. He can't shot for shit, and got out rebounded by an inferior Mike Miller. Green has leap, and strength. Apperenetly he has high IQ to be able to play multiple positions. So why can't he get that one so important rebound. Kevin had a better game, Westbrook almost had a triple double, and Green got alot of look what i found.

okc baby :
Funny Green actually has a good game and gets blamed for 1 play. That it never should have come 2. hahaha

I much rather Green make key plays that win the game than put up ok stats like he did today. Besides he took 20 shots to get 20 points? he's faster than bosh, and all the other PF's on that team. Why didn't he pump fake then drive hard for a foul, or kick it out like Lebron does. Even Dirk kicks it out.

@Daniel
I think Cole/Collison/Mullens would be a much better defensive and rebounding rotation at center with ibaka and green rotating at the 4 with collison

@gr8ball83
I still think we need a bruiser like Varejao or Chandler. Ibaka at the 4 and Green as the 6th man off the bench is good, but that won't get you far when your center rotation is Nenad/Collison/Cole.

@Daniel
It can contend the way its constructed, just not the way the minutes are handed out currently.

okc baby :
Nick Collison 2 rebounds

It's true.... Collison and Green should not play together. The have got to be one of the worst defensive rebounding tandems in the league..... which is why there is no excuse for Ibaka playing 9 minutes.

Coaching loss

As tough as this loss was, I think we needed it. This team is good, but it can't contend with the way it is currently constructed. If losses like these show Presti that we need a legit big man, I'm alright with it.

@Thunder247
not talking about that 1 rebound, talking about the entire game, which put us in that position

justin :
Rebounding is more than who gets rebounds. It’s about the team. And not giving up offensive rebounds. The Heat had 11 offensive rebounds. I had two plays in the fourth quarter where Collison or Ibaka missed a box out. So how do the Heat get those rebounds? Because of Westbrook? Cook? Come on. Let’s not be obtuse. Green did a nice job on the boards early when the pace was frantic and shots were going up quickly. When the game slowed down in the stretch run he was invisible. That’s when you get your size in the game; Brooks didn’t do that.

This sums up my response. Not all rebounds are equal. And if Green had 11, I would've expected him to get 12 given his position on that last shot and he only had to box out Mike Miller.

@gr8ball83
I pretty sure you don't stand flat footed while Mike Miller jumps over you to get the rebound.

gr8ball83 :@justin

If everyone boxes out then who gets the rebound?? I think one of the jobs of the tallest people on the court is to get rebounds, no?

What is your point, here? Are you blaming Collison for the poor rebounding the fourth quarter? Krstic didn't even play in the fourth period. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Rebounding wasn't really a big issue until the fourth quarter when the game slowed down.

Thunder247 :
I wish they would run more plays for Harden.

It seems like Cook and Harden were open alot on the wing, but no one got it to them during those times. Cook a little more though.

It seems Harden only gets the ball when its a bailout from another player and then has nothing to do because he's guarded and there's no play.

@justin
Point being we have several players that are much better rebounders than Green or Krstic and they never play, so lets focus the frustration on that

I think Green also caused global warming, crucified Jesus and caused the GFC. Brooks should bench him.

The NBA is WAY too frustrating to pay this close of attention to. I need to take a nap and change my perspective. GO THUNDER!

We missed Thabo's rebounding late in this game. lol missing rebounding from a guard...

@justin
If everyone boxes out then who gets the rebound?? I think one of the jobs of the tallest people on the court is to get rebounds, no?

gr8ball83 :@justin

From section 112 row J, you?

Most people who watch games live don't always notice everything. :)

Rebounding is more than who gets rebounds. It's about the team. And not giving up offensive rebounds. The Heat had 11 offensive rebounds. I had two plays in the fourth quarter where Collison or Ibaka missed a box out. So how do the Heat get those rebounds? Because of Westbrook? Cook? Come on. Let's not be obtuse. Green did a nice job on the boards early when the pace was frantic and shots were going up quickly. When the game slowed down in the stretch run he was invisible. That's when you get your size in the game; Brooks didn't do that.

@justin
I agree we got 7ft players but Brooks won't let them play.If you don't get to play in games that matter you can't get better.

Yea, well I was looking at the box score and I am suprised we were even in the game late after shooting 40% from the field. Durant and Westbook need to be put in a dark room with some tape and then told what is a high % shot and what is not.

If they trade Harden over Green, I will be devastated. I have more faith in Presti than that though.

Nick Collison 2 rebounds

@justin
From section 112 row J, you?

gr8ball83 :@Stephen

seriously?? The 2 guys playing center shouldn’t get more than 4 rebounds in 39 minutes and green should get more than 11 in 44?

Did you watch the game on television or on ESPN game cast?

@Stephen
seriously?? The 2 guys playing center shouldn't get more than 4 rebounds in 39 minutes and green should get more than 11 in 44?

I know you guys want Green gone. But he actually had a good game, sorry

gr8ball83 :@justin

Totally Green’s fault, he should have had 18 rebounds instead of 11 and 10 offensive boards instead of 4. Why would a Center get any rebounds, they just block out instead.

Do I have to post my chart here? Miami had 11 offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter with Green playing the entire period. Nick Collison boxes out almost every play without fail. So why is the team not rebounding? You tell me.

Harden was making great decisions today and I thought he played solid D. I just wish they would run plays with him coming off multipule screens.

Do you think Brook's dislike of Harden, his love of Green, and Cook's improvement makes Harden the most likely person to be traded

Krstic and Collison played 5 less minutes combined than Green. Green outrebounded them, but it's not like Krstic/Collison should be absolutely killing him in the rebounding department.

@Bryan
Nevermind brick wall
Your right Greens fault

@justin
Totally Green's fault, he should have had 18 rebounds instead of 11 and 10 offensive boards instead of 4. Why would a Center get any rebounds, they just block out instead.

Thunder247 :
I wish they would run more plays for Harden.

I wish they would run more plays, period. The offense down the stretch did enough to win because the defense was good, but it could have been a runaway win if we had any kind of offensive structure. The Heat knew exactly what we were doing every time down the court.

I wish they would run more plays for Harden.

okc baby :
And that was a pretty big bounce!! But blame Green

Dude, there is no excuse for our starting PF in his 4th year in the league to not box out..... none

gr8ball83 :@justin

So you’re blaming the guy that led our team in rebounding and not the 2 guys that played center the entire game and combined for 4 rebounds??

It's not who gets the rebound all the time. 7 or 8 of Green's rebounds were in the first half when a lot of shots were going up. Collison was consistently boxing out his man but the team had no size to grab rebounds down the stretch. Is it really Green's fault? No, he doesn't have the size and he can't be a great rebounder even if he wanted to. But Miller had two offensive rebounds in the game and Green is awful at boxing out.

Yea, actually Green had his best game in a long time, I just wish he would have at least looked to have tried on that one play.

dream catcher :

okc baby :
Just re watched the play. KD jumps away from the ball. Green gets pushed in the back. And perimeter is wide open

Durant is scared of contact.

You can't be serious.... he gets to the line more than almost anyone in the game..... but he's scared of contact.....

Ron Adams should be the next coach! IMO. If the offense will take care of itself, then we need a defensive head coach. Sorry, Scotty. Had your back til today. SOOOOOOOOOOOO mad at our lack of focus and crap shots late in the game.

I can't beleive we lost this game. Good shot by Durant at the end. Terrible box out / rebound attempt for Green at the end. He did not even freaken jump....

And that was a pretty big bounce!! But blame Green

okc baby :
Just re watched the play. KD jumps away from the ball. Green gets pushed in the back. And perimeter is wide open

Durant is scared of contact.

@justin
So you're blaming the guy that led our team in rebounding and not the 2 guys that played center the entire game and combined for 4 rebounds??

gr8ball83 :@justin

Which is why I asked why Ibaka didn’t play more than 9 minutes. Even with green out there ibaka would have helped on the boards

Ibaka / Green is worse than Collison / Green on the boards. The point is that at least on the final defensive possession of the game, you get some size in there when the Heat were beasting you on the boards. Brooks not inserting Ibaka as a defensive substitution at the end was a total coaching meltdown.

Just re watched the play. KD jumps away from the ball. Green gets pushed in the back. And perimeter is wide open

I'm so effin' mad right now!

okc baby :
Blame Green when he gets pushed in the back. And our perimeter defense is so good:) hahha

He barely got moved. He walked under the basket as if he was the only player on the court.

gr8ball83 :@justin

our offense is green/Westbrook taking over half of the teams shots??

No, our offense is a lot of isolations that result in long jumpers and tough shots in the half court when teams trap our ball handlers. We are a poor shooting team. Against a good defensive team, you expect that. Westbrook made bad decisions shooting the ball, Durant took some questionable shots, Green did too, but that's been the way of it all season and despite that our offense is 6th or 7th in the league. It was rebounding that lost this game.

@justin
Which is why I asked why Ibaka didn't play more than 9 minutes. Even with green out there ibaka would have helped on the boards