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OKC bounces back, blows out the Nets 114-93

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After one quarter, it was looking like we had a total grind on our hands. The Thunder turned the ball over six times in the first 12 minutes, shot right at 40 percent and struggled their way to 24 points. It was one of the ugliest quarters in weeks. I think we all started having flashbacks of three overtimes.

Things quickly turned around in the second quarter though. One big difference between this game and the last one? Kevin Durant. Having him helps. Some. Well, a lot.

But what really sparked the Thunder into the blowout was they started playing defense, forcing the Nets into long jumpers, which led to long rebounds which led to transition opportunities. Plus, OKC pressed the Nets into 15 first half turnovers which helped the running game. It was really another bench sparked event, led by James Harden who nine in the second quarter and really kicked the Thunder into gear.

After things got settled down and OKC started playing, the Thunder cruised on. Kevin Durant poured in 27 points on 11-19 shooting in only three quarters. Russell Westbrook had 17 and seven assists in just three quarters. The Thunder led by 18 going into the fourth and the bench did its job, extending the cushion out to 25, meaning the starters got a good long rest.

It’s exactly what you wanted to see out of this team following up the disappointing fourth quarter against the Mavericks. The Nets aren’t good. Not at all, really. But having the luxury of your starters sitting the last quarter is good, no matter who you’re playing.

NOTES:

  • Is it just me or has KD hit his first shot like in the last 10 straight games? I love it when that happens. It calms me down for some reason.
  • The Thunder shared the ball wonderfully again in this game. In the first half, seven players had at least one assist (via @colemanramsey) and for the game, OKC finished with 31 assists total.
  • OKC turned it over 10 times in the first half but got things under control in the second, flipping it just five times. Most of those came in the fourth with the second unit too.
  • James Harden runs the pick-and-roll as good as any player OKC has. He times the pick so well, is patient but doesn’t wait too long. Plus he has that low drag which always clears him space in the lane.
  • Harden was really the big difference in sparking OKC’s run. In December, he’s averaging over 14 points a game on 45 percent shooting and almost 40 percent from 3. I really think it’s time he gets at least a little chatter for Sixth Man of the Year. I’m serious.
  • I could be wrong, but it seems like after every Jeff Green pump fake, he goes right. Just a random observation.
  • A conversation I was having with someone tonight after Russell Westbrook took his 500th huge tumble of the season – at some point, he’s going to die. The fact he has played in every game so far in his professional career is unreal. The guy is built like a brick — seriously, he’s one big muscle — but he just flies so recklessly around. Of course I pray it never, ever, ever, ever happens, but I fear the day he lands wrong.
  • OKC went just 18-27 from the free throw line tonight. I blame Lee Jenkins.
  • Bill Simmons was in the house tonight. I don’t know why because he left right at the buzzer and I didn’t have a chance to talk to him. But it was definitely cool seeing him in OKC.
  • How about that Westbrook end-to-end dunk to finish the half? Avery Johnson said after the game that he showed the Nets that play at halftime.
  • New Jersey finished with 23 turnovers for the night.
  • Avery Johnson is one of the best in the business with the media. So likable. I couldn’t be more impressed with him.
  • Nenad Krstic was a big part of the third quarter dropping all 10 of his points there. KD talked after the game about how the team needs to look to Krstic a little more in the post.
  • Remember Johan Petro? Wasn’t too long ago when he was playing for us, was it? Oh, how far we’ve come.
  • Sometimes, Serge Ibaka shows off how scary awesome he can be. He has a post game that’s pretty solid to go with the jumper and the high-flying stuff. I can’t wait until he figures out how good he can be.
  • OKC is now 10-1 after a loss.

Next up: The Hawks at home Friday night.

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I forgot Harden at 13th with a score of 4.3

Hi there,
I have created a brand new individual statistics system in wich I analyze every action from each player for a game and here are the statistic for the nets game:

1st: Ivey has 7.50
2nd: Collison 7.2
3rd: Durant 6.96
4th: Ibaka 6.9
5th: Westbrook 6
6th: Lopez 5.61
7th: Kristic 5.4
8th: Murphy 5.22
9th: Sefolosha 4.96
10th: Uzoh 5.74
11th: D.J. White 5.7
12th: Harris 4.66
13th: Mullens 3.78
14th: Humphries 3.64
15th: Green 3.44
16th: Vujicic 2.6
17th: Outlaw 2.45
18th: Favors 2.24
19th:Farmar -1.8

It's a formula where offensive actions are:
Points scored plus rebounds plus assists plus possilble assists plus steals and defense actions blocks plus rebounds plus charges.I There are also minus points for turnovers, bad defense and misses. For example: Jump shot = 2 points, turnover = -1 point, Missed shot = -1 point, Charge = +1.5 point.

After the whole playing time I divied the points through playing time in miutes and multiply it with 10..

Did we hire a new free throw coach since the last 5 games or so? If so, then we need to bring back the old free throw coash ASAP :)

AC :@DSMok1

I was under the impression that efficiency decreases with increasing usage were difficult to prove, and very difficult to quantify. How’d you measure that?

Regressed onto adjusted plus/minus over the past few years, controlling for all other stats. Actually, I just pulled some components out of my ASPM regression to yield the numbers above; they were generated that way.

@Cpt. C-note

That is awesome. Shelbi is our rep as well and she has treated us very well this season.

@DSMok1
I was under the impression that efficiency decreases with increasing usage were difficult to prove, and very difficult to quantify. How'd you measure that?

justin :@DSMok1

I’ll keep that in mind. I guess, I generally have an idea of certain player archetypes and the kind of scoring efficiency I would expect out of them.

Well, the team can handle a PG's lower efficiency if he's also getting a lot of assists compared to turnovers--their value can come from other areas.

For example: 5 players I have rated as close to equal on offense so far this year: Pau Gasol, Dwayne Wade, Monta Ellis, Al Horford, and Tony Parker. Rather different profiles:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tin...

@Floppy Punch!

Perhaps he's seen Tyreke do that enough times in practice to know it was going in.

justin :@DSMok1

Where’s Kevin Durant on your list now?

27th in the league overall, 19th on offense.

Over the past month, he's been 8th:
MIA Dwyane Wade
NOH Chris Paul
MIA LeBron James
CHI Derrick Rose
LAC Blake Griffin
BOS Kevin Garnett
PHO Steve Nash
OKC Kevin Durant
ATL Al Horford
MIN Kevin Love

UTA Deron Williams
BOS Paul Pierce
DAL Dirk Nowitzki
DEN Nene Hilario
POR LaMarcus Aldridge
OKC Russell Westbrook
LAL Kobe Bryant
NOH David West
NYK Amare Stoudemire
MEM Rudy Gay

@DSMok1

I'll keep that in mind. I guess, I generally have an idea of certain player archetypes and the kind of scoring efficiency I would expect out of them.

justin :@DSMok1
Position generally has an effect on the type of shots you’re taking. League average TS% for power forwards is about a whole percentage point higher than for point guards.

Yeah that is one thing I noticed when trying to figure an average. The big's TS% numbers are much better.

The worst TS% for players that shoot at least two 3pt attempts per game belongs to Cook (.397).

justin :@DSMok1

Position generally has an effect on the type of shots you’re taking. League average TS% for power forwards is about a whole percentage point higher than for point guards.

1 percentage point is rather small.

A rough rule of thumb: to remain the same value, increase TS 4.5% for every 5% of Usage dropped:

So 0 value would be at:
Usage TS%
5 67%
10 63%
15 58%
20 54%
25 49%
30 45%
35 40%

justin :
Not Thunder related, but this was amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP2dvmEUvJ8
Can you imagine of Brian Davis was calling this?

Somebody off the Sac bench has a great eye. He's on the floor celebrating as soon as Reke let's go of the ball.

Not Thunder related, but this was amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP2dvmEUvJ8

Can you imagine of Brian Davis was calling this?

@DSMok1

Where's Kevin Durant on your list now?

@DSMok1

Position generally has an effect on the type of shots you're taking. League average TS% for power forwards is about a whole percentage point higher than for point guards.

a :
my comment is awaiting moderation, probably because of too many links. for the time being.
I beg to differ about the Russ’s low TS%. If it is so low, he should take less shots. Albeit, the threat of his shots, especially when driving, makes him a more effective passer/creator. I don’t think that’s an excuse for him maintaining a +30% usage.

Westbrook's TS%, while low, is more than balanced by his usage and turnover percentage. I rate him the fifth best offensive player so far this year.

@a

He's barely below league average, which is pretty nice considering his higher shot volume and how he is scoring. He should probably shoot less, but who is a better scoring option in the starting lineup? Thabo? Green? Krstic? Durant can't shoot every time down the court.

James Harden should be playing 30+ minutes a game every night, and he should be starting. It'd make the whole team a lot better on offense, and I don't think his defense is that much of a drop off from Thabo.

DizzyDai :
I’m still trying to expand my understanding of all things statistical. What’s a good and bad TS% number. I’m thinking anything over .600 is pretty good. Anything close to .500 is not so good? What’s average?
Unless I messed up my numbers here’s some TS% from last night…
Krstic – .833
Durant – .650
Ibaka – .571
Westbrook – .559
Green – .533
Harden – .500
Sefolosha – .500
I would have thought Green’s number would be lower. Perhaps this stat is more useful with larger sample sizes?

The full advanced box score is at http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/2010... (click "Advanced Box Score")

League Average TS% is 54%.

I would strongly dispute justin's position that the position matters when evaluating TS%. I would say that just USAGE matters when evaluating TS%.

justin :@DizzyDai

Individual TS is more useful with larger samples, just like FG percentage.
As for what’s ‘good’, league average TS% is around 54%. But when looking at it you have to put that into context. A big man who mostly takes shots at the rim will have a higher expected scoring efficiency than a point guard. Also, how often a player shoots should also be taken into consideration. It’s more difficult to maintain a high scoring efficiency when given more opportunities. This is why Kevin Durant’s ~60% TS from last season is so great.
Russell Westbrook’s TS% is under league average currently, but it’s good considering he’s a guard that does not take any three pointers. Jeff Green DOES take three pointers, and is a big man to boot, so his scoring efficiency should be higher than league average. But it isn’t.

As a narrative stat, TS% is fine for one game. Green did fine in this game from a shooting perspective, but he only used 12% of possessions when he was on the floor. If you're using that few possessions, your TS% had better be really high or you're just taking up space.

my comment is awaiting moderation, probably because of too many links. for the time being.

I beg to differ about the Russ’s low TS%. If it is so low, he should take less shots. Albeit, the threat of his shots, especially when driving, makes him a more effective passer/creator. I don’t think that’s an excuse for him maintaining a +30% usage.

Chandler's in a contract season and is mysteriously healthy and playing the best basketball of his career. He'd be an excellent fit on this team right now, but would have been a big disappointment otherwise. Plus, it would be a tough decision whether or not to extend him given his injury history.

@DizzyDai
To put it into more context...

http://www.hoopdata.com/advancedstats.aspx?team=%2...

@justin

I beg to differ about the Russ's low TS%. If it is so low, he should take less shots. Albeit, the threat of his shots, especially when driving, makes him a more effective passer/creator. I don't think that's an excuse for him maintaining a +30% usage.

@DizzyDai

Individual TS is more useful with larger samples, just like FG percentage.

As for what's 'good', league average TS% is around 54%. But when looking at it you have to put that into context. A big man who mostly takes shots at the rim will have a higher expected scoring efficiency than a point guard. Also, how often a player shoots should also be taken into consideration. It's more difficult to maintain a high scoring efficiency when given more opportunities. This is why Kevin Durant's ~60% TS from last season is so great.

Russell Westbrook's TS% is under league average currently, but it's good considering he's a guard that does not take any three pointers. Jeff Green DOES take three pointers, and is a big man to boot, so his scoring efficiency should be higher than league average. But it isn't.

I'm still trying to expand my understanding of all things statistical. What's a good and bad TS% number. I'm thinking anything over .600 is pretty good. Anything close to .500 is not so good? What's average?

Unless I messed up my numbers here's some TS% from last night...

Krstic - .833
Durant - .650
Ibaka - .571
Westbrook - .559
Green - .533
Harden - .500
Sefolosha - .500

I would have thought Green's number would be lower. Perhaps this stat is more useful with larger sample sizes?

Aldrich is back in Tulsa, per ESPN Rumors page.

@DizzyDai
Nice link...The other telling stat on that link is that JG has the highest minute total of the three...

MartzMimic :
Oh, was anybody else amazed that the game was sold out last night? I don’t know what the actual turnstile numbers were, but there really weren’t many empty seats. For the Nets. On the night of an OSU bowl game.

Best fans in the NBA, period.

@DizzyDai
Hopefully, b.c Presti's not as dumb as Atlanta...

Green, Mo Williams, and Joe Johnson are not shooting that well this year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tin...

If Joe Johnson can get a max contract why wouldn't Green? ;)

kfmsooner :Nice game, KD was great, Russ was nice, NoNads made a 3rd quarted appearance, Serge went Hakeem for about 5 minutes…very nice.
justin’s comment on JG’s 3pt% is very telling. How many 1-4, 1-6, 1-5, 2-9 3pt shooting games does he have to have before Brooks tells him not to shoot them anymore? Very similar to what they did to Josh Smith…just don’t shoot them anymore…

Here's the catch. If Thabo, Russ, Green, and Krstic are not allowed to shoot 3's. Then Harden must be moved into the starting lineup to spread out the defenders.

Nice game, KD was great, Russ was nice, NoNads made a 3rd quarted appearance, Serge went Hakeem for about 5 minutes...very nice.

justin's comment on JG's 3pt% is very telling. How many 1-4, 1-6, 1-5, 2-9 3pt shooting games does he have to have before Brooks tells him not to shoot them anymore? Very similar to what they did to Josh Smith...just don't shoot them anymore...

MartzMimic :Oh, was anybody else amazed that the game was sold out last night? I don’t know what the actual turnstile numbers were, but there really weren’t many empty seats. For the Nets. On the night of an OSU bowl game.

And on a Wednesday night in a heavily Southern Baptist state. Coming off a disappointing loss. In a blinding snow storm. (OK, I made the last part up)

Agree, MartzMinic, how soon we forget

@I got 1 arm and 1 leg and swim in circles

Who cares. After Monday night's display I wouldn't want Chandler on our team.

Oh, was anybody else amazed that the game was sold out last night? I don't know what the actual turnstile numbers were, but there really weren't many empty seats. For the Nets. On the night of an OSU bowl game.

@Floppy Punch!
Its a very safe bet Griffin will want to leave the Clipper eventually (every superstar that plays there does) but whether that means we'll ever land his rights while he's in his prime is another question altogether. We can dream.

@arm, leg whatever
I disagree. If I'm not mistaken, the Thunder would have paid somewhere around $18 million for the year-and-a-half that Chandler was hurt and/or ineffective. That means no Thabo and no Maynor. I think we tend to forget that they were down to Mike Wilks as Russ' backup after Livingston, Ollie and Weaver all went down in short order. And let's see if TC makes it through this year

Griffin wanted to play here. It was pretty clear to me he was excited about the prospect, but he was still angling for the number 1 pick and didn't want to risk insulting other teams (one of whom was about to make him a very rich man) so he had to deflect the questions about how great it would be to play in OKC by giving a neutral answer like "it would be an honor to play for any team." I think he's committed to LAC now, though. We'll just have to hope that organization pisses him off, otherwise he'll be there for a while.

Just because Chandler is healthy now doesn't mean he would have been worth the risk. That's outcome based thinking.

Permit me, fellow fans, to throw this random note out here as well: whoever the doctor is on our staff that rescinded the Chandler trade should be savagely slapped in his throat

Let me be clear, I would give 1 1/2 of my testicles to land Griffin. I'm just saying I know the vibes and subtles messages he was sending out during the draft. I hope to god that changes by the time his rookie contract is up and he wants to come here. But there is no way in hell we get him in any other scenario (trade, etc.)

The only way he ends up here is if in 2 years when his rookie deal is up he chooses to come home.

LA really isn't all that. Then again I'm not a famous millionaire.

@I got 1 arm and 1 leg and swim in circles
Everyone wants to go to new places after high school/college.

@I got 1 arm and 1 leg and swim in circles

Which is why he chose to play basketball at the metropolitan utopia of Norman, Oklahoma.

His twitter until this last season started said: "Son of Oklahoma" in his description. It's not to far fetched to think he's want to play ball back in the motherland.

What in the hell was Bill Simmons doing in Oklahoma?

@Danny

If you read into Griffin's pre-draft comments and vibe, it was crystal clear he wanted to get the hell out of Oklahoma ASAP. He is excited to be in a city like LA.

@Cpt. C-note
glad you had a good time, i think us normal fans appreciate it more than the people who can actually afford those seats for the most part. my life goal is to get down there eventually for season tix

@Danny
And for the record, I would be sad about Uncle Jeff's departure.

But it's time to match Miami---that's how it goes.

Blake Griffin is really awesome.

How soon can we start talking about getting him to Oklahoma City? He would really want to play here, right?

It'd be expensive, but you make it happen; Presti can keep a solid roster around a Westbrook, Durant, and Griffin trio---Collison and Thabo's cheap contracts will be really helpful.

I want "Come Home, Blake!" chants the season before his free-agency.

I didn't see Cole Aldrich tonight. Not even in a suit.

What's up with that? Anyone know?

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