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The Thunder slips past the Blazers again, this time 110-108

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Some people out there are calling for a Blazers-Thunder playoff series. I vote no on that. I think it’s very likely I’d die mid-way through Game 3.

I don’t know what it is when these teams hook up, but so far, we’ve seen two absolute classics. And they were pretty darn similar games too. In Portland, the Thunder played fairly atrocious defense for about 42 minutes, then locked in. And it was more of the same Friday night in Oklahoma City.

The Blazers shot 63 percent in and scored 65 points in the first half. But the Thunder tightened the screws again and more importantly, Portland finally started missing some of those tough shots that were falling earlier. OKC held the Blazers to 43 in the second half, secured a number of critical stops late in the fourth and eventually pulled out a win after Rudy Fernandez’s game-winning 3-pointer clanged off the iron.

Wait, am I still talking about defense? Forget that. Let’s talk a little about Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook here.

First, Durant. After KD sunk that leaning jumper over Nicolas Batum with a minute left to put OKC up five, there was nothing to say. There was really nothing to think. We’ve seen Durant take over and make plays when he had to, but man, that was maybe his best takeover yet. He netted four straight baskets for the Thunder and turned a one point deficit into a five point lead in two minutes. It was almost stunning how effortlessly he took the game over. It was all KD, right in the biggest moments. When he starts doing that sort of thing, I almost want to start kissing strangers on the mouth. Nothing is prettier.

Now, Westbrook. Friday was Russ’s 22nd birthday so of course he scored a career-high 36 points. Naturally, that’s how we do things ’round here. But with Jeff Green out, OKC really didn’t have a third reliable guy to get points from. KD was going to get his usual 30. But in order for the Thunder to keep in it, points were going to have to come from somewhere. So for a second straight game, Westbrook rose up. Everything about Westbrook’s game was nearly perfect. His mid-range jumper was stellar. He got to the rim and finished. He made all the right choices when it came to firing from 15 feet or attacking the basket. He got teammates involved (seven assists), but at the same time, always seemed to sense exactly when he needed to look for his own. And he hit a huge 3-pointer. Westbrook started the game off with a steal and a dunk and it was just a sign of things to come for him. If you’re making me pick between KD and Russ as to who gets tonight’s game ball, I’m pulling a King Solomon and cutting it in half.

Lost though in Durant and Westbrook’s freaking outstanding games was the job Thabo Sefolosha did on Brandon Roy in the last six minutes. While most of the Thunder team wasn’t playing much of anything resembling defense, Thabo worked throughout the night. But with Roy shooting the ball well, Thabo really latched on and forced a handful of really tough shots for Portland’s go-to scorer. Thabo had just two points compared to Westbrook and KD’s combined 70, but honestly, he played an equally vital role. So split that ball three ways I guess.

NOTES:

  • Durant: 13-21 (8-12 in the second half), 3-6 from 3, 5-6 from the line for 34 points. Now that’s a Kevin Durant game.
  • James Harden provided a large lift in the first half with 12 points. Now he finished the game with just 12, but a lot of that was due to Scott Brooks hanging with Thabo on Brandon Roy. But Harden’s 12 first half points are more than he’s scored in any full game so far this year.
  • Serge Ibaka was again stellar. He was big in the first half and finished with 12 points, seven rebounds and four blocks. And look at what LaMarcus Aldridge did tonight. Just 10 points on 5-10 shooting. Plus, Ibaka’s presence inside really affected Andre Miller and Brandon Roy in getting to the rim late.
  • An underrated gold star goes to Nenad Krstic who played 36 minutes and scored 12 big points on 5-9 shooting. Some of Krstic’s jumpers in the third really felt like they kept OKC in it.
  • After Portland closed the third on a 7-0 run to take an 87-84 lead into the fourth and then they started on a 5-0 run to go up eight, I figured it was over. But man, that resilient OKC bunch fought back. The Blazers have to feel like they let two games slip away against OKC though.
  • Twenty assists for OKC in this one! A season-high!
  • Don’t get me wrong, the Thunder was pretty bad defensively in this one. They didn’t stop the ball, they didn’t defend the man in front of them and they gave up some easy buckets. But a lot of Portland’s success was due to them making some really tough shots too.
  • D.J. White played a little in this one instead of Cole Aldrich. I really thought White was decent and then I looked at his line: seven minutes, zero points, zero rebounds, zero blocks, zero assists, one turnover and one foul. But still, I felt like he was all right.
  • Westbrook is such an aggressive offensive player. It’s weird, because we all accept him as a point guard now, but he’s probably playing less like one than ever. Not that that’s a bad thing. He’s playing fantastic basketball. But Westbrook isn’t a point guard right now. His position is “playmaker,” if that makes sense. I don’t think he has an order of operations in his head. It’s not like he’s shoot first, pass second or vice versa, he’s just “MAKE BASKETBALL PLAYS” first, nothing second.
  • In that same regard though, at times Westbrook looks like he’s trying a little hard to be too great of a playmaker. I think he’s taking it upon himself for this team to share the ball and get going offensively. That’s the job of a point guard, but sometimes he forces the issue. That’s nitpicking though because Westbrook is playing so, so great.
  • How about Ibaka’s little up-and-under in the first quarter? He missed, but it made me yip quietly to myself.
  • Also, something slightly interesting: That kick-out from Serge Ibaka to KD for 3 was Ibaka’s first assist of the season.

Much in the same way the last win over the Blazers couldn’t be underestimated in how large it was, this one can’t either. This Thunder team is becoming a clutch bunch of dudes. Big plays in big moments. Big stops. Big shots. And it equaled a big win.

Of course this win doesn’t automatically forgive the three awful performances in their losses or the porous defense early in this game, but if we’re learning anything, it’s that this Thunder team is still very good. Any fears you had last week about this team should be dissolving. These boys can still play folks. They aren’t there yet, and that’s really what makes them so damn scary.

Next up: The Spurs at home Sunday night.

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weird, comments don't load for me anymore, probably wont be able to read this after i post.

Westbrook's mid-range jumper this game was... 4 for 12.

I saw on HoopsHype.com whispers of discontent coming from the Kings' camp about DeMarcus Cousins's attitude problems. Apparently Cousins has gotten into little spats with different people in the organization (assistants, strength/conditioning coach) that have some other teams making inquiries into whether he may become available or not. I think its too early to even think about trading a top-3 pick, but where there's smoke........there's usually Cam Newton.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-10111...

I know it is way to early for trade talk but whatever...

Number 5 on the list to be traded....

Jason Thompson, Kings

It wasn't long ago that Thompson, selected with the No. 12 overall pick in the 2008 draft, and Spencer Hawes were being touted as the Kings' frontcourt tandem of the future.

Now?

Thompson is averaging just 15.4 minutes per game off the bench and has been shopped by the Kings.

Was Thabo guarding Roy as he opened up 7-11 and 2-2 from 3 and if so why didnt Harden get more minutes since his offense was burgeoning and Thabo was allowing these huge numbers?

@justin

I'm not saying he's better, just that I think it's close than it appears

@justin

Why not? He's a more complete player and better defender

Daniel :is it possible RW is better than KD?

No. Don't even go there.

is it possible RW is better than KD?

Dude you're getting ripped off on Four Lokos. I can get them for 2.50 a can.

Why isn't Ibaka considered clutch now? He had some key blocks or is it just JG considered clutch.

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/1...

Here's the article on B. Roy for those that haven't read it. As others have said, great for us going forward, but extremely sad for such a great player and a classy person.

Justin: full comment awaiting moderation, so here are just the numbers:

(0 is average, -3.5 replacement level)

Russell Westbrook 7.01
Kevin Durant 1.11
Thabo Sefolosha 0.78
Serge Ibaka -0.07
Jeff Green -3.38
Eric Maynor -3.54
Nenad Krstic -4.40
James Harden -4.40
Cole Aldrich -5.04
Daequan Cook -6.65
D.J. White -7.89

justin :@DSMok1

Do you have OKC’s ASPM / 100 possessions for the season by any chance?

Here:

Russell Westbrook 7.01
Kevin Durant 1.11
Thabo Sefolosha 0.78
Serge Ibaka -0.07
Jeff Green -3.38
Eric Maynor -3.54
Nenad Krstic -4.40
James Harden -4.40
Cole Aldrich -5.04
Daequan Cook -6.65
D.J. White -7.89

The full, updateable spreadsheet is at APBR: http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics/viewtopic.php...

Westbrook is in the top 5 in the league. KD is not nearly himself (last year he was 3rd at about 6.0). -3.5 is considered "replacement level" below which the player is really not helping the team at all. (0 is NBA average--about 75% of starters in the league, I'd guess, are above average; most bench players are below average.)

We are now 13th in offensive efficiency, but 28th in defensive efficiency, surrounded by the likes of phoenix, sacramento, toronto, and the clippers. Not good.

So, I guess nobody is looking forward to Green's return to the starting lineup? :O)

russell westbrook is second in the nba in PER

@DSMok1

Do you have OKC's ASPM / 100 possessions for the season by any chance?

@TempBoy Brandon

He'll get zero consideration, he doesn't score enough and CP3 is still much better.

KD gets the love because he's a 30+ PPG scorer.

Here are the single game contributions (above or below NBA average) as calculated by Advanced SPM:

Russell Westbrook 10.9
Serge Ibaka 2.1
Kevin Durant 1.6
James Harden 2.5
Nenad Krstic -0.2
Thabo Sefolosha -2.7
D.J. White -2.7
Daequan Cook -2.7
Eric Maynor -3.4

It didn't take Cook long to get that -2.7 contribution!

Here are each player's individual ASPM's, per 100 possessions:
Russell Westbrook 11.9
Serge Ibaka 2.6
Kevin Durant 2.0
James Harden 5.7
Nenad Krstic -0.2
Thabo Sefolosha -3.9
D.J. White -16.2
Daequan Cook -65.5
Eric Maynor -14.8

Westbrook continues his MVP-level play. By Advanced SPM, he is the 4th best player in the league so far:

NOH Chris Paul 12.34
MIA LeBron James 7.71
ORL Dwight Howard 7.17
OKC Russell Westbrook 7.01
UTA Paul Millsap 6.83
LAL Pau Gasol 6.52
ATL Al Horford 6.09
BOS Rajon Rondo 6.00
NJN Devin Harris 5.08
PHO Steve Nash 5.02
PHI Elton Brand 4.99
DEN Carmelo Anthony 4.94
MIA Dwyane Wade 4.90
ATL Josh Smith 4.88
ORL Jameer Nelson 4.72

CP3 is dominating.

* I didn't mean All Star consideration, I meant MVP consideration. As in, he could be in the discussion.

I know it's still early, but check out Westbrook's ranks amongst PG's:

Scoring: 1
Assists: 10
Rebounds: 1
Steals: 7
Blocks: 1
Double Doubles: 1

Wow. Obviously, if he keeps this up, he's an All Star. But the better question: if he keeps this up, and the Thunder end up with a #2 or #3 seed, does he get All Star consideration? I know, I know, it's way too early and when Jeff gets back, his scoring numbers will probably go down. But it's fun to think about: does the Thunder have 2 possible future MVP candidates?

Oh, and KD is leading the league in scoring by over 2 points per game. What a 1-2 punch.

@justin
every time durant put it on the floor to drive to the hopp he had the ball knvoked out of his hands or stolen

Blazers rely jump shoot too much,but it is difficult to keep high FG% the whole game. They dont have a player like Russ who can drive to basket many times.

First, on the baseline thing...all NBA teams force a wing player baseline. I think it's Mark Jackson's line, "Baseline is Death". you don't let talented NBA players get to the middle of the floor where they can pass to either wing, either corner or dump the ball underneath. If you force a player baseline, the defense is much easier. You have the baseline as an extra defender, less passing options, and you almost totally take away the opposite wing/corner pass. You just have to rotate over better...

Second, great game. Let's just see if Brooks starts Ibaka and bring Green off the bench.

@justin
As good as that bodes for the Thunder in the future, it's terrible for Roy. He's gonna have arthritis when he's 30. And despite being from Portland, he's one of my favorite players to watch, due to his all-around game.

Kevin Durant with the lowest AST% of his career right now, and highest TOV% as well.

Clearly, something isn't going right with him and the way he's being used offensively.

Russell Westbrook at PER27 after this game, 2nd in the league to Chris Paul.

Even if he does not keep this up this has probably been the best eight game stretch of his career.

There's no curing B. Roy's knees. He could still be an effective player but he relied on his athleticism a ton driving to the rim, he's going to be a lot more of a jump shooter now. And as the years go he'll probably have to reduce minutes, if not beginning this year.

Blazers must be cursed. Everyone knew Roy might have a problem with one knee, but both?

They aren't illegal yet. December 3rd/4th. They are liquid crack.. But people don't know how to drink/hold alcohol in Oklahoma and they're banning it.. Gotta love stupidity!

Great game last night. I know our defense was soft for 3 quarters... but man, watching KD and RW take over the game was just bone chilling. The look in KD's eyes when he his the first of his 4 straight? That was crazy... and you could see RW was amped up the entire game. Well deserved win. That's how you will yourself to a win.

hahaha i had a 4 loco last night!!! blue raspberry is freakin great!!! although is it illegal in OK

I was happy D.J. White got into the game outside of garbage time for once. Its got to be tough to work hard in practice and stay motivated but never get in. We know he's got a nice jumper from 15-18, maybe they could work on running screen and roll with him in the second unit. Might be a decent way to manufacture a basket against the other opposition's reserves. Of course, that would be contingent on him being able to set a good screen which we haven't seen much of to this point.

Brandon Roy has no meniscus left in either knee, apparently.

Great come-from-behind win tonight! Amazing that we pulled it out despite Portland hitting seemingly every shot they took tonight. Russell is playing absolutely out of this world basketball right now. His jump shot is so much better than it's ever been and he's finishing better at the hoop as well. His confidence level is through the roof.

KD was amazing down the stretch as well. I just wish he'd stop handling the ball so much. The dribbling turnovers are so infuriating. You're not as good a ballhandler as you think are KD, just give the ball to Russ and let him create.

I thought James looked great in the first half. He was confident with his 3-point stroke and also driving to the hoop. Don't know why he didn't get more second half minutes.

Looking ahead, I think this Jeff Green injury is the perfect excuse to bring him off the bench and see what he brings us in that role. Scotty Brooks can just tell Jeff, "Hey, you're a little banged up right now. We're going to ease you back into the lineup off the bench."

Having Ibaka as a starter is just so much better for us from a defensive standpoint. As others have pointed out, Aldridge just abused Jeff in that first matchup and tonight, not much out of Aldridge, especially when Ibaka was on him.

Against the Spurs, I'd much rather see Ibaka start against Duncan than Green.

@f5alcon
He's getting great pub on the ESPN reply and is a BIG reason why we're 5-3 and not a lesser record, as some might suggest we deserve.

FYI
yes
I'm STILL awake and JACKED off the Lokos! Someone outlaw this stuff...oh...wait... ;)

@f5alcon

So what you're trying to sell us is the fact that he's good?

this game makes westbrook league leader in point guard ppg, he is also leading in rebounds and blocks, 10th in assists, 5th in steals, so top 10 in all 5 major stat categories for his position

@justin

Telling players to "move without the ball" is akin to telling them to "play hard" in the huddle. It doesn't mean anything. If Harden were to trot along the baseline to move from one side of the court to the other, what's accomplished?

I'm really surprised we don't at least have a simplistic reactive offense built around Westbrook handling the ball. Players basically know to hit certain marks on the court or perform certain functions (set screen at elbow, cut baseline for backdoor, simple cross or out movements, etc) based on where Westbrook is on the court. Westbrook at the top of the key? That means we do this. Is he at the elbow? Do this.

Then, on top of that, allow Westbrook the ability to call a few basic plays like PnP w/ Krstic or screen feed for Durant or ISO for him or KD.

This is really elementary stuff to at least get plays moving. It's absolutely shocking how purposeless the few movements we actually have are. Aldrich and Collison are good screen setters. They set good meaningful screens during the flow of the offense because they understand what's going on. Compare this to Mullens who sets screens to just move around.

Nenad is the absolute worst perimeter screen setter. Before contact is even made, he gets out of the way. It's a crime. Westbrook would dominate with a competent screen partner.

That said, in Nenad's defense, he is very good about clearing the lane for Westbrook to drive. He wouldn't be as successful driving without Nenad backing guys several feet out of position. He's solid doing that.

@holdmymartian
Moving to Texas for the beer is a Jim Rome-style "Man's game". Kudos!(I'm ignoring the "just playing" part)

Enough with the green bashing/trade talk I can't wait till nick and green come back so we can play Russell, Kevin, green, serge, and nick. defense clap clap defense.

@Cpt. C-note
Haha I'm from Oklahoma though. I just moved for the 6-point. Just playing...

@holdmymartian
Just kiddin' or JK for you kids! I'm a big fan of your 6-point aka "GOOD" beer. I'll be in the great state of Texas soon to see Roger Waters do "The Wall" in Dallas. Long-time Floyd fan and can't wait to see music history in person. uhhh.... Krstic needs to be more dominat inside ;)
Go Thunder!

@Joshua G
I think I tried one in Cali. I don't know if it was Lokos or something else though.

Cpt. C-note :@holdmymartian

As far as I know(from liquor store vendors n such) it’s just an Okie-ban. But I got 1 for 5, 2 for 8 or 3 for 15 if you want

From what I've heard, they're being banned in OK, MI, and PA. I think TX is talking about it, but I can't remember.

* or 4 for 18 or 5 for 20.(crack prices!)

@Cpt. C-note
I live in Sherman,TX. lol

@holdmymartian
As far as I know(from liquor store vendors n such) it's just an Okie-ban. But I got 1 for 5, 2 for 8 or 3 for 15 if you want ;)

@Cpt. C-note
I might have to get me one sometime. Is it just OKC or Oklahoma or everywhere thats taking them off the shelves?

@holdmymartian
YES!!! It's a 24oz, 12% alcohol/energy drink that is coming off the selves in Oklahoma Dec 3rd due to the lack of control we have under it's consumption. So of course I had to see what the deal was. I had 1 and felt pretty jacked/effed!

@justin

I think forcing middle would make us less vulnerable on backside rotation (exhibit 1: fernandez' wide open 3 at the buzzer)

However, it might make us more vulnerable to kick-out threes to the top of the key because our perimeter defense would need to collapse to the free throw line to seal.

Although a lot of our problems would be solved if we could keep our guys in front of us. We are capable of this, just haven't shown it much this season.