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The Thunder pulls out another, tops New Orleans 95-89

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I think it’s time we all just accept something. It might be hard for some. Might not be for others. The Thunder doesn’t play good offense. Their defense is inconsistent. But they win. This is just how it’s going to be. They’re going to look average and sometimes bad, but in the end, they’re going to win or get darn close to it.

That means we all might be dead by mid-March or at least have very little hair remaining, but if you can live with winning, you’ll survive. Because despite shooting under 40 percent again, with Kevin Durant having another off night and Jeff Green going 4-14 from the floor, the Thunder topped one of the best teams in the West.

It’s kind of hard to deal with at times, watching bad basketball. It makes you want to yell into the face of a small child. Five minutes straight of bricked jumpers, isolation sets that lead to contested shots and an offense that’s really pretty elementary. I can understand someone hating and being frustrated with that. But let me tell you, I love winning. And this team wins. I guess we’ve just got to deal with it.

In reality, this was kind of a throwback to last season. The 2009-10 Thunder won games with gritty defense, timely runs and big stops in big moments. And that’s exactly what this game saw. Consider this doozy of a stat: The Hornets didn’t score a point from the six-minute mark to the 34-second mark of the fourth quarter. Didn’t score a point. The Thunder took a six-point deficit with six minutes left and turned it into a seven-point lead with a 13-0 run.

It was keyed offensively by Russell Westbrook, but defensively, Kevin Durant gets the gold star. The Hornets were running most everything through David West and instead of keeping Jeff Green on West, Scott Brooks switched Durant over to guard NOLA’s big man. Durant used his length to bother everything West did and just like against the Pacers, peeled off and blocked Emeka Okafor at the rim on a key possession. KD’s having trouble shooting the ball. That’s obvious. But he’s not giving up. He’s not pouting. He’s not giving anything away. Durant plays two different games each night – one on the offensive end and one on the defensive end. We’re used to him winning games offensively. Now he’s doing it on the other side.

And of course Russell Westbrook was again the MVP of the night. He played so well that I didn’t even notice he had eight turnovers until I checked the box score. Russ finished with 25 points, 11 assists five rebounds and five steals, and absolutely took over in the last couple minutes. He went right at Chris Paul, scoring in traffic and then hit a 3 right in his face. KD after the game said, “It’s the new Russell man. Taking over games.”

NOTES:

  • Jeff Green’s chase-down block on Chris Paul might be my favorite play of the year. It looked like Green had zero chance to make that play. But he absolutely turned on the jets, busted his butt and saved two points. It got the crowd energized and fired up everyone. Huge play.

  • KD summed it up nicely: “This game is all about wins and as a leader you have to do what you have to win.” And Green put it well too: “Everybody would love a 20-point win every night but some nights you have to win like this. It just shows our character and how we have been progressing this season.
  • If you still had any lingering affection for Chris Paul coming into tonight, I would assume it’s fading fast. CP3 is one of the three or four very best players in the league, but man, his falling and flopping really annoy me. The way he took a dive when Serge Ibaka swung his elbows around was pretty ridiculous. His name shouldn’t be Chris Paul, but Chris Fall.
  • You may be wondering, “How does OKC win this game shooting 38 percent to NOLA’s 44 percent? Here’s how: a 56-36 edge on the glass. The Thunder grabbed 16 offensive rebounds and absolutely owned everything on the defensive glass.
  • Two big players involved in that effort: KD and Serge Ibaka. Durant and Ibaka both had 11 boards. Ibaka didn’t score a point, but his rebounding plus three blocks were crucial.
  • Hey, how about Thabo? Besides the usual stellar defense, Sefolosha went 4-4 from the floor including 2-2 from 3 for 13 points. I thought he got a lot better lift on his jumper tonight. He’s been working to improve his shot and maybe that’s one of the adjustments.
  • James Harden played just 16 minutes, but he looked a lot more confident and sure of himself. Foul trouble held him back, but he attacked the rim, made some nice decisions after beating his man and was aggressive with the ball.
  • Durant went 7-22 from the floor but I swear, he had at least eight shots rattle in-and-out. He also was 0-5 from 3, but really, I only noticed two, maybe three shots overall that were questionable. Everything was good and in rhythm for KD. They just didn’t drop. Regardless, he still scored 26 points.
  • OKC turned it over 18 times tonight and had 17 assists. Teams aren’t supposed to have negative assist-to-turnover ratios.
  • The first nine minutes of the second half, OKC scored just seven points. It was brutal. Nothing was falling, the offense was stagnant and the Hornets looked to be on the verge of taking control. But OKC finished the quarter scoring 11 points in the final 90 seconds and trailed bu just two heading to the fourth.
  • Ibaka was a +17 tonight. The only minus was Jeff Green and his was just a -1. That’s pretty good.
  • Monty Williams on Westbrook: “He’s an All-Star. He plays at a level that causes teams to scout him 10-15 minutes during practice. He is shooting well now and getting to the free throw line almost 10 times a game.”
  • Ibaka was 0-5 from the floor tonight after going 7-7 against Houston. That’s kind of weird.
  • For Green and Durant to go a combined 11-36 and the team to win is pretty great. If they are getting back to their defensive principles now, we’re going to be fine.
  • Remember, this Hornets team is really pretty good. Beating them, regardless of style, is great.

Scott Brooks talks a lot about not quitting, about continuing to fight no matter what. And that’s what the Thunder just keeps doing. They’re a resilient ballclub. Jeff Green’s block really is a good example. All hope appeared to be lost. Chris Paul had an easy two points. But Green never quit on the play and the Thunder stole two points back as a result.

Here’s the thing: The team is winning and when they’re not, they’re close. And I think we can all agree that something just doesn’t look right. Whether it’s KD, the offense or something else, it just feels like there’s something to be fixed. But they’re winning regardless. I’m completely convinced that this team isn’t playing to its capability and at some point, will hit a stride. But the fact they’re surviving a rough schedule and are now 12-6, tells me that we’re going to be all right.

Next up: At the Nets Wednesday.

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Thomas :@Other
Thomas
I guess the be all end all is whatever his height and wingspan he is a total bad@ss and I personally wouldn’t trade him for any other young point guard. I’m sure others might differ, that’s just my personal opinion.

I MIGHT trade for Wall, but not until I see him play at this level for a full season. But as of this moment? Wouldn't want anyone that isn't a clone of Stockton or Magic.

@Other Thomas
I guess the be all end all is whatever his height and wingspan he is a total bad@ss and I personally wouldn't trade him for any other young point guard. I'm sure others might differ, that's just my personal opinion.

Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Standing Reach
6' 2.25" 6' 3.5" 8' 4"

This was at the time of the draft for Westbrook, its very possible that he has gotten bigger. I think its fair to assume hes 6'4"ish.

@DizzyDai
Oh, I was just going by this:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/russell_westbrook/

and this:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/derrick_rose/

Whatever Russ may be he's certainly not 6'6" as Legler said.

Rose is 6'2.5" in shoes, Westbrook is 6'3.5" in shoes.

Erick Maynor's in between but he doesn't have the length of those two guys.

@Thomas

I noticed an article a few weeks ago where Rose stated that Westbrook was taller than him. Also there is a major difference between Westbrook's 6'3" compared to Maynor's 6'3".

This team makes me want to throw something at the TV half the time (see Houston quarters 1-3), but at the pace they are playing we are projected for 54 or 55 wins. I would have taken that to start the year.

@Thomas

Russell Westbrook has about an inch of height on Rose, and an inch and a half in length.

@Anonymous
Does anybody remember when the article that included the projected wins by month was posted? I was curious as to how we are doing compared to that.

Did anyone else see Tim Legler on Sportscenter this morning discussing Westbrook. He said Russ was "several inches" taller than D. Rose, "a legit 6'6"." Not sure what he's smoking on that. Russ player info page on NBA.com lists him at 6'3" just as D. Rose's player info page does as well. According to a quick google search Russ' wingspan is 3/4 of an inch longer than Rose's so that may be worth something.

Great win last night! Once again, I can't believe we won given how badly KD is shooting, but we once again pulled it out.

I thought having KD switch onto West defensively in the 4th quarter was huge. His length definitely bothered West and took him out of his game. Green is just a sieve defensively. Seriously, I'm starting to wonder if KD should start guarding the other team's 4, while Green guards their 3.

I also credit Serge, who had some huge blocks in those closing minutes.

Here's a random thought I've been wondering about lately. Why has KD stopped doing his rip move? It worked all of last year, and I still think it could work this year, but it seems like he's completely abandoned it. It got him to the line at least once a game last year. I think he should get back to it.

Thabo continues to play well. I hope his recent streak of confident and effective shooting keeps up. For now, we need every Thabo bucket we can get, especially with KD struggling so much.

James looked good during several stretches of this game. And did Russell actually outplay CP3 last night? I think he did. If you were watching the game knowing absolutely nothing about basketball, I would've sworn Westbrook was the perennial all-star and not CP3.

Great win guys. Imagine how good we'll be once KD finds his stroke!

Chris :
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/22249/h...
As soon as I saw Hollinger tweeting about the Thunder game I knew he would write a negative-Hornets piece instead of a positive-Thunder piece if we won. Has he ever said something good about the Thunder?

Ironically enough, he gives OKC credit for 'scouting' the Hornets offense and being able to play good defense because of that. I highly doubt this is the case since we don't have a great defensive coach anymore. At least not a planning defensive (or anything) coach. For the Thunder, it's all about 'playing hard.' If you play hard, the offense and defense will fix itself. :rollmyeyes:

DXL :@Dan

Building through the draft works, the bad things happening in Portland have nothing to do with their process of stockpiling draft picks. Portland took 2 major risks in drafting high lottery picks with major injury histories (Oden and Roy) and lost; they also blew a bunch of low first round picks on Euros who haven’t done a damn thing for them and may never (Sergio Rodriguez, Petteri Kopenan, Claver, Freeland, etc). Portland basically had the right idea, Kevin Pritchard just blew too many picks.
Not building through the draft can be a perilous, expensive, spirit-crushing path. The Knicks have been trying to rebuild for the last decade by ignoring the draft, trading away tons of high picks for big name players (losing the chance to obtain Nene, LaMarcus Aldridge, Joakim Noah and many others) and not developing young players like Trevor Ariza and Channing Frye. It’s been a disaster and a lesson about impatience.
Presti’s doing the right thing.

I partly agree, building through the draft is a great strategy and works if you get most of your picks right and give them time to develop, but if a great trade comes up, you have to take it.

That's what the Blazers did with the Marcus Camby trade, where would they be without him now? With both Oden and Przybilla injured all the time?

That's my only criticism of Presti, getting Camby would make us a MUCH better team, and he wouldn't stunt anybody's development, he'd take Krstic's and Nick's minutes, who aren't really youngsters.

Even the Spurs, the ultimate build from the inside team, takes those opportunities when they come.

I hate flopping as much as anyone else, but Paul didn't seem too excessive last night. Paul did try to sell Ibaka's contact, but Ibaka shouldn't have gone all He-Man with the elbows.

BTW - Am I the only one who felt kinda bad for West on those free throw attempts? West did visit my son's school and signed autos a few years ago, so maybe I'm biased.

@Dan
Building through the draft works, the bad things happening in Portland have nothing to do with their process of stockpiling draft picks. Portland took 2 major risks in drafting high lottery picks with major injury histories (Oden and Roy) and lost; they also blew a bunch of low first round picks on Euros who haven't done a damn thing for them and may never (Sergio Rodriguez, Petteri Kopenan, Claver, Freeland, etc). Portland basically had the right idea, Kevin Pritchard just blew too many picks.

Not building through the draft can be a perilous, expensive, spirit-crushing path. The Knicks have been trying to rebuild for the last decade by ignoring the draft, trading away tons of high picks for big name players (losing the chance to obtain Nene, LaMarcus Aldridge, Joakim Noah and many others) and not developing young players like Trevor Ariza and Channing Frye. It's been a disaster and a lesson about impatience.

Presti's doing the right thing.

Mike : Look, this team, right now, is worse than its record.

But the record is the only thing that matters at this point. Also last night the team showed they know how to play D when they want to. Thinking positive. ;)

Russ did have a lot of turns, but like Royce I didn't notice most of them. If Justin didn't mention it during the game I would have thought Russ had 4 or 5 turnovers top.

I wouldn't say Green 'stole two points' from the Hornets since he knocked the ball out of bounds and allowed West to pull up for an uncontested jumper after the ball was inbounded. :(

@other thomas
Matthew ain't bad either. It's true: the M's blogosphere is the best.

Well the thing with the media talking about how awesome the thunder were going to be and how they will dethrone the lakers was ridiculous. I think that stuff affects fans as much as players. So when our season didn't start off with blow out victories on just about everyone and flawless play, everyone has gotten less tolerant when really we still have one of the youngest teams in the NBA. And our record has improved from last year so far so it's not like we have started worse

@Chris
and everybodys opinion is valid.

@Chris
we want the team to get better, if we tell them how awesome they are all the time like national media they will never improve their issues. For all the negativity, we usually have offered solutions to the problems we complain about.

Not that my opinion matters. But the last few game articles have been more enjoyable to read. My only complaint was that for a while it seemed that for every small positive it was followed by like 4 negatives in the post game article. Even on games we won. So I think Jessie is referring to the comments more then anything. How negative most commenters are on this site I think a lot of them went into a stress induced coma when we lost our first game.

@AD
mason for defensive assistant coach?

@Sammy

The Mariners have AWESOME baseball bloggers/writers. Sullivan and Cameron are 2 of the best.

Any love I had remaining for Chris Paul has,apparently, completely dissolved, coincidently, with his character.

Did, however, absolutely love seeing Desmond at the game tonight.

somebody has to read the stuff here, but whether or not it is anybody important is a different question, though if i was presti, i would look, even if 99.99% of the site is worthless that 1 comment that has a brilliant idea would be worth it.

@Justin
Dave Cameron over at ussmariner.com (a Mariners blog) wrote a piece a couple years ago about how Felix Hernandez was throwing too many fastballs, complete with statistical breakdown. The M's pitching coach saw the piece, printed it out and handed it to Felix.

Russ averaged 5 free throw attempts per game last year. This year he has yet to have a game with less than 5.

Royce, just a thought but you should definitely perma-link to your youtube channel somewhere on here. You always put up great videos I just forget to check your channel. A link would equal even more traffic and recognition I think.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/22249/h...

As soon as I saw Hollinger tweeting about the Thunder game I knew he would write a negative-Hornets piece instead of a positive-Thunder piece if we won. Has he ever said something good about the Thunder?

Completely OT: The Heat have 76 million in guaranteed salary for the 2014/15 season. That is ridiculous. Including almost 11 committed to 34 year old injury prone players Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. Along with 4 million for one of the worst centers in the league(Joel Anthony). Why didn't they offer some of these players shorter deals? -shakes head-

Royce Young :

Jesse O :
I have stopped coming to this site as often as I did before cause it’s just become so complainy. quit whining and overreacting. it’s still really early in the season, teams based on defense usually take a while to get things going. ask the spurs (aside from this year’s incarnation of course). go thunder.

Are you referring to the comments, or to me?

would assume comments.

@justin
I think drafting him much higher than most thought he should have been will play in our favor. We have believed in him from the start.

He did back out of an commitment to play college ball at Creighton when UCLA offered him tho. That could be applied to our upcoming situation I suppose.

clarkem :
They gave us a ton of love on the sportscenter highlights tonight. I love finally having a popular team.

I still hate how they always have to include a comment about how there's "nothing" to do in Oklahoma City

@nick

To add to that, I genuinely believe guys like Darnell and OKC media probably read this blog as it's easily the most popular OKC fan site. Darnell's recent criticisms almost seem pulled from articles written here or comments. When local media runs that stuff, the questions get asked to the coaches, so at least it's up for consideration.

I will admit to being spoiled by the talent level on this team. I can see so many negatives when they play (especially the consistently frustrating offensive system), but they just keep managing to win. As Mark! said, perhaps what is most frustrating about this team is the glimpses of just how good they could be. Their offense can be terrific at times on sheer talent alone, and their defense can just be suffocating. While I know that others just see it as complaining, I do believe that the problems that I and others point out are legitimate areas for improvement. This team is good in spite of all those concerns, and could be great if they addressed them. When you step back and think about it, its pretty incredible just how talented this group is.

Loved winning this one, actually sat in floor seats (upgrade) and wouldn't you know it, KD went flying right at me. It was cool to help him up and give him a pat on the back for his hustle.

@vince

I thought the switching we did against Dallas hurt us. Last night it worked out. And tonight it did, also.

@andrew

There are only two things I could imagine that would keep Russ from remaining a Thunder for awhile:

- He is lured by LAL to be Kobe Bryant's heir apparent.
- New CBA does away with the various mechanisms that give teams a competitive advantage when negotiating with and signing their own free agents.

If Russ continues to play this way, Presti might have to show up at his front door at midnight on the first day he is eligible for extension talks just like Durant. I am beginning to get scared of us not resigning Russell... We are going to find out a lot about this teams willingness to spend $ this summer.

@Royce Young
comments, you are the least negative of all of us, been drinking the kool-aid.

I am one of the negative ones, even though justin gets all the flak.

Some thoughts from the game:

1. Best defensive effort in a while. You know who led the group? Ibaka. He made some mistakes but his positioning and help were outstanding. There's a reason he played down the stretch.

2. We don't switch on screens nearly as often as we did last year. I'm surprised no one's brought that up. We did it in spurts the last few games down the stretch and it's been effective.

3. The officials should be fined for that 2nd half. It went both ways but they should be embarrassed.

They gave us a ton of love on the sportscenter highlights tonight. I love finally having a popular team.

justin :@Royce
Young
LOL. Yeah, you’re just a beacon of negativity.

Haha, that's what made me curious.

You know whats a heck of a lot more annoying than people trying to take an honest appraisal of the team? people coming here and complaining about complaining. Look, this team, right now, is worse than its record. There are a lot of problems that need to be addressed if they have aspirations for a ring, and I would much rather have some people be too critical, than have us all hold hands and pretend they are perfect. For the love of god, and all that is holy, if you are sick of the negativity, shut up about it. try posting what positives you see with out complaining about haters. wow.

@Jesse O
"I have stopped coming to this sight", he says as he comments on the site he doesnt come too.

@Neil

We had -1 turnovers against the Rockets at one point during the game, according to the ESPN boxscore.

@Royce Young

LOL. Yeah, you're just a beacon of negativity.

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