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Monday Bolts – 11.29.10

How is Cole Aldrich doing in Tulsa? He’s played two games and is averaging 21 minutes a night, with nine points, six rebounds and one block per game. But he also has 11 fouls total in the two games. Pretty underwhelming stuff thus far, but this is his first look at extended playing time. Patience.

Russell Westbrook is approaching All-Star territory says Darnell Mayberry: “Russell Westbrook recently was asked by the NBA if he would like to compete in this year’s slam dunk contest at All-Star Weekend. The Oklahoma City Thunder’s point guard told the league thanks but no thanks. But Westbrook said he could change his mind and participate in his first-ever dunk contest. “One of these years I’m going to be in it,” Westbrook said. “I just don’t know if it’s going to be this year.” It might as well be.

Westbrook on the dunk contest: “I don’t really have trick dunks and all that,” Westbrook said. “I just like games. The dunk contest is totally different from what it used to be. You got to do a lot of different stuff to get points. You got to flip and bring out a lot of different (stunts) to get some points … “I was willing to do it then. One of these years I’m going to be in it. I just don’t know if it’s going to be this year. But I will be.”

From the Houston Chronicle: “He’s too tall,” Battier said. “I can’t block his shot. The way this season has gone, I was expecting it to go in. When I saw it bounce off, I said, ‘Thank you, Lord. It’s about time one goes our way.’”

The Dream Shake: “So, not only did Battier contribute more than Durant overall, he also shut the scoring champ down, and please, do not be so foolish as to say it didn’t happen that way. I was there. I saw it. Durant didn’t get very many looks, and basically checked out of the game. He played bad D and Battier took advantage of it, finally hitting his open threes, and then driving successfully when his defender played too tight to guard the corner 3. Between taking about 12 points away, and contributing 18, Battier was key to a close win tonight.”

KD talks about Trevor Ariza.

Mayberry’s postgame observations: “My only problem with Westbrook’s emergence has been the backseat Durant has had to take. It’s becoming more and more evident that as Westbrook dominates the ball, Durant is reduced to second fiddle. Something has to change there. On several occasions tonight, Durant was the third, and sometimes fourth, option. When Westbrook is probing, Durant is standing around. It takes Durant completely out of the game. And by the time Durant finally gets a touch, he’s so eager to do something that he rushes up an ill-advised attempt. It’s killing his percentages and destroying his rhythm.”

KD’s “neighbor” will be giving away some game-worn Durant sneakers today on Twitter.

Scott Howard-Cooper says to keep not freaking out: “There’s still no reason to panic in Oklahoma City, but the 10-5 start does come with a 5-1 fattening-up mark against the Eastern Conference while going just 5-4 within the West. The Thunder are 2-3 against the Spurs, Mavericks, Jazz and Trail Blazers, and they have yet to face the Lakers or Hornets. If the disparity does continue against the best of its own conference, the teams OKC will have to handle to advance in the playoffs, then panic will be on the table.”

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One more thing... Payton is the best pg in the post ever. period. He backed down other point guards every day of the week. I love that little turnaround jumper he used to take after sticking his butt in some puny guard's chest.

Sorry, the above stats are his scoring averages of course.

Who wasn't getting punched by maxwell those days... including sacramento fans.

Rashard has and will always will be a wussy. The guys you mentioned were tough-minded and meshed with Payton; they didn't keep him in line. I guess that's a matter of opinion.

And my recollection of those play-off years is a bit different.
Playoff appearances from 1995-96 (nba finals) to 2001-02 (last year with Sonics), regular season vs playoffs.

19.3 vs 20.7
21.8 vs 23.8
19.2 vs 24.0
24.2 vs 25.8
22.1 vs 22.2

This points to the fact that he did indeed have an "extra gear" in the play-offs. Can you explain his lack of "extra gear" more clearly? Also, George Karl left after '98. Payton took Seattle to the play-offs with that shoddy cast you mentioned 2 more times before he was traded for Ray Allen. That's a measure of success, isn't it?

@The Glove

Payton was a leader of those 90's teams because he had veterans around him who were on his side. Detlef, Hawkins, Perkins, even guys like David Wingate. And of course George Karl. George Karl has always been good with the petulant stars.

After Karl left and the roster had some turnover, Payton's bulldog antics became a detriment to the team. I recall him and Vernon Maxwell getting into a locker room fight and he threw a dumb bell at him. The way he treated the young guys on the team hurt their development (Rashard Lewis was an early example). It was common at the time to say 'It's Gary being Gary'.

My main issue with GP's career was how he didn't have an extra gear for the playoffs and he had about as many poor playoff performances as good ones.

Gary was 22 when he entered the league. Durant has accomplished more by 22 than Gary did at that age. : )

When Gary came into the league, his first 2 years were awful. There was talk of trading him for somebody from Dallas... forgot who.

But then he and Kemp started the 90's run that culminated in the 1996 championship run where they lost to the Jordan-led Bulls. Rodman had that weird hair-do. That was the year that Payton averaged 2.9(!) steals 7.5 assits and 20 points per game, winning the NBA DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. THat's something Durant will never win. Durant will, however, win MVP someday because offense is king.

Payton changed games with his defense, pushing, guards to the sidelines which Karl famously used to the team's advantage by trapping the hell out of opponents. Without Payton, Karl's defense in the 90s doesn't exist.

Payton was a great leader for those 90s teams. he was such a bulldog. It appeared he would tear the opposing pg's jugular out with his teeth if he had to. He set a tone for the Sonics. His leadership is unquestionable.

Payton left his mark as one of the best defensive point guards in the history of the league.
Durant will leave his mark as one of the best offensive wings in the history of the league.

Comparing the two on skill-set is probably a waste of time.
Comparing the two on leadership... at this point I'd say Payton is ahead.
Comparing the two in crunch time situations... Payton ahead, but remember, his best game-winner was in a Miami uniform. What doesn't show up in the stats was his ability to shut down the opposing pg or sg in crunch time situations.

@Anonymous

yeah, but there were many posters agreeing with the Don lol

Douglas :I wanna talk numbers. GP’s all around numbers are better in the regular season. GP’s teams were better and had a higher number in the win columns. Payton won DPOTY and was a 1st team all defense for I believe 9 consecutive years?
And I just loved how you said “you wanna talk winning?” and then concluded that a guy who for a decade led a contender is not a winner compared to a guy who thus far has had a 20 win, 23 win, and a 50 win season, with the one winning season being where he absolutely shrunk under the spotlight in the playoffs.
Are you being serious or just jerking my chain at this point?

Gary Payton's all around numbers are not better. He was never an efficient scorer even though later in his career he took a ton of shots, he was a decent distributor but not super natural, he was a terrific rebounder for a point guard, and he racked up a lot of steals. Kevin Durant had a historic season scoring the ball last year, over 30 points per game on ridiculous efficiency. Gary Payton never lead the league in anything except for steals once, Kevin Durant was a scoring champion in his third year and may repeat this season.

Yes, Payton was on the All Defense First Team for many years, but barring injury or serious falling short of expectations, Durant will probably have close to as many All NBA First Teams as Payton has Defense First Teams. Gary Payton didin't lead the Sonics anywhere, either. When George Karl left and Gary Payton became 'the Man', the Sonics didn't have any success. Blame it on his supporting cast or coaching carousel, but that's the fact of the matter. He was a difficult personality for coaches to handle and he routinely stunted the growth of the few young players the Sonics did try and develop those seasons.

I'm not a Bill Simmons fan, but he did an excellent job recapping Gary Payton's career in his book by saying he brings a lot to the table, but also takes a lot of things off the table. Yeah, Kevin Durant had a bad first experience in the playoffs. But he still played better last April than Gary Payton did in his first five appearances in the postseason. A lot of Sonics fans sweep that under the rug, but GP was horrible in the playoffs for a long time, and even though he played well during the Finals run, it's not like he put himself in another gear like Shawn Kemp did.

@kfmsooner

Agreed. Had Gary Payton actually been a terrific playoff performer and lead the team to a title or close to a title on his own (Kemp was better in their Finals run), then he'd hold more weight to me in this comparison.

I'm a big Gary Payton fan, and he was great, but he was never league MVP. I'm not sure what his best finish was in MVP voting since he was in the Jordan era, but my guess is Durant bests him in that category when all is said and done. Anyone want to bet that Durant wins 0 MVP trophies in his career?

Here are the stat lines for year 3 for each player:

13.5 ppg, 4.9 apg, 3.5 rpg, 1.8 turns/g, .770 ft%, .206 3pt%

30.1 ppg, 2.8 apg, 7.6 rpg, 3.3 turns/g, .915 ft%, .284 3pt%

Obviously you can guess which stat line goes with GP and which with KD. Comparing apples to apples after 3 seasons, would anyone take GP over KD? NO. I love Payton, but KD is the better player after 3 years andn probably will be over the course of a career. Hands down.

Anonymous :@Bruno

What do you mean, Bruno?

What I mean is that some posters here (and I'm not including you) tend to criticize KD for what they think he should be, and not what he is doing on the court.

people criticize him for not being a playmaker, for example, as if he would morph into Magic Johnson all of a sudden if only he wished.

others, like the DON one other day, were saying that Durant's return made the team worse, and that we should bench him... I mean...

I just think once the shots start falling instead of clanking, those opinions will suddenly change.

@Other Thomas- I love the idea of adding coach Spo to our staff. I read on Hoopshype where Miami players were frustrated that his offense was too simplistic. This impressed me, as it indicates coach Spo actually HAS an offensive scheme of some sort that he tries to implement. I think adding him might send a much needed message to Brooks, as in, cut out the bat-shit crazy rotations you keep playing, our you could be replaced by that guy sitting next to you.

@Anonymous

"Yes, those comments are idiotic. Ignore them. If you make a comment that only references those stupid comments, then you’re only adding to the noise. You aren’t going to shame them into leaving. This is the internet."

That's what I said. Maybe I chose a poor way to say it? I still think comments saying we should trade KD are idiotic. I dunno about the character the person who posts such things.

Regardless, I was responding to someone who made a post that was talking only about how dumb other people were without adding anything about the Thunder or basketball, etc etc. What good does that do?

Anyway, I'm done diverting the comments away from a pretty good discussion about Payton vs Durant and going against the very thing I was trying to encourage other people not to do!

Anonymous :
@Mark!
I’m the “deleted” guy, don’t know why it put that word in there. I never log in, as it keeps disappearing here at my office PC. Anyway, I agree with most of what you say.
First of all, I really cannot imagine that anybody thinks OKC “should” trade KD. But nothing’s impossible. If the Clips offered Griffin, Gordon and their next 3 1st RD picks, it’d be worth considering, I’d say.
Again, I LOVE KD and want him here forever, but other players get criticized for poor play, so why not KD? He’s not playing very well so far, unfortunately. And somebody saying “trade KD” is just a term to express he’s unhappy with the way he’s performing. Aren’t you as well?
As much as I love KD, he’s not bigger than the team.
I’m sure he’ll be here forever, and I’m even more sure that everybody on this site is very happy about that. And no comment can make me think of somebody being an idiot, if somebody thinks the team would improve by a certain trade, let him post it.

I totally agree with you.

KD should be criticized, yes, but based on what he's doing...

a few things:

1. I really, really want Russ to be in the dunk contest. I hope he changes his mind.

2. I really, really liked "deleted"'s post. Agreed 100%.

3. What's this Russ vs. KD debate? Yes, Russ has been better so far this year. I think both will make the All Star game, and deservedly so. I've been a huge Russ fan since his rookie year, and as a matter of fact, his is the only jersey I own. That said, KD is still the better player. He has started off a bit cold, but his talent is through the roof. Russ might be a Top 15 overall player, but KD might be a Top 3.

4. Gary Payton was great, no doubt. And at this point in their careers, of course Payton has a bigger portfolio than KD. But I think based on sheer talent and potential, it's easy to think that KD will end up with the better career. People are saying KD might be the best NBA player for the next decade. Payton, while a perennial All Star, was never considered the best player in basketball at any point in his career. He was never even in the conversation.

Bruno :

Douglas :@Bruno

So saying gary payton, one of the all time greats, is better than durant is the same as hating durant?

I was actually replying to the guys who said that KD is not an all-star this season, and I only quoted Justin because he said that he thinks KD is an all-star, and I agree.
and no, saying that Payton is better isn’t the same as hating Durant.

Ok got it.

I'd still rather have Durant though, I think he has the potential to be better than GP ever was.

Douglas :@Bruno

So saying gary payton, one of the all time greats, is better than durant is the same as hating durant?

I was actually replying to the guys who said that KD is not an all-star this season, and I only quoted Justin because he said that he thinks KD is an all-star, and I agree.

and no, saying that Payton is better isn't the same as hating Durant.

Bruno :@justin

it’s “hate Durant season”, nothing will make sense to some people during this period.
I just hope KD starts playing like he did last year to see how the comments will change.

its not hate, its speaking the truth. Durant has been sucking it up this season so far. Lazy defense, bad passing, horrible shots, bad decision making etc.... Once he improves ill gladly say it.

@Bruno

So saying gary payton, one of the all time greats, is better than durant is the same as hating durant?

I wanna talk numbers. GP's all around numbers are better in the regular season. GP's teams were better and had a higher number in the win columns. Payton won DPOTY and was a 1st team all defense for I believe 9 consecutive years?

And I just loved how you said "you wanna talk winning?" and then concluded that a guy who for a decade led a contender is not a winner compared to a guy who thus far has had a 20 win, 23 win, and a 50 win season, with the one winning season being where he absolutely shrunk under the spotlight in the playoffs.

Are you being serious or just jerking my chain at this point?

@justin

it's "hate Durant season", nothing will make sense to some people during this period.

I just hope KD starts playing like he did last year to see how the comments will change.

@Douglas

Sorry, GP didn't win anything for the team during their run with George Karl. He was awful in the Playoffs his first five years getting there. When he finally decided to show up for them in 1996 the team made the Finals, but even then his performance in that postseason was overshadowed by Kemp, who was much better.

You want to talk numbers? Kevin Durant had a better year statistically than Payton ever had. You want to talk winning? Payton never won anything as the best player on his team and had as much horrible playoff seasons as he did good ones. You want to talk individual accolades? Payton has KD beat but my opinion is that KD will surpass him easily as annual First Team All-NBA, which GP only made once in his career.

deleted :But if somebody says that Blake Griffin might be the better player, it’s his opinion. And while I’m not so sure of that, Blake really is very impressive. It’s not so far-fetched. It’s definitely wrong for Mark! to call comments like that “idiotic”. It’s all subjective, what makes Mark!’s opinion “better”?

Only because you mentioned me by name...

I agree 100% that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, especially regarding things that are 100% opinion driven such as who is better than who, etc. We're all entitled to disagree, and to do so for whatever reason we deem fit. It's an opinion!

Anyone who's been following the site for a while knows that I often speak up in defense of people's opinions. A lot of flak is thrown around this site criticising the way different individuals choose to represent their fandom. We have wanton fanboys who think the team can do no wrong, we have people who love statistics, we have armchair GM's who are critical of every deficit the team shows on the court, and so on with every intersection inbetween. All of these people are fans, and I believe 100% that we need all of them. No one group is superior to another; being one type doesn't make you a better fan than another.

What jerks my chain is when people take up comments on this blog directed at other people instead of discussing the team or basketball.

* Such-and-such is an idiot.

* So-and-so should get lost.

* I can't believe how negative you guys are.

It's unfortunate that you read my post and the exact opposite message is what you took away from it. I guess I chose a poor way to illustrate the point I was trying to make, which was that people should stop posting about other posters and start posting about basketball. If you don't like what someone has to say, just skip their posts. If someone equates themselves as an idiot, why add to the noise by making a post that is only about their post? What good does that do?

My intent was never to discredit someone as an idiot for saying Griffin will be better than Durant. Time will tell, and I'm as skeptical as you. (Although I do think it's idiotic to say we should trade Durant, but that's my opinion.) It certainly was not my intent to be ad-hominem.

I try my best to only post when I have something to say that's basketball related, but I have a hard time doing that all the time, as this post illustrates.

Hacksaw Jim Thuggin’ :
Opponents feared payton. No one fears KD.

oh, I guess that's why nobody bothers to guard him.

come on guys, every single defender that guards Durant keeps relentlessly trying to deny him the ball, just watch Shane Battier yesterday or any other good defender on KD.

people are terrified of him because they've seen what he can do if he has space, you guys are just overreacting because of a bad stretch.

GP's success, or lack there of, post george karl can only be blamed on one thing, wally walker. make that 2 things, wally and schultz. this is a team game and even GP can't do anything when his teammates are lazarro borell, vin baker, the corpse of billy owens and ewing, so on and so forth.

Payton for almost a decade was the leader of a consistent 57-60 win team and to compare his past-his-prime with no good teammates chapter of his career against Durant is a mistake you should know beter than to make.

You are working off an assumption of what kevin MIGHT become vs. what payton WAS, which is one the greatest players ever.

@Douglas

GP was one of the best two-way PG's to ever play, but his peak as that player was short, IMO. By 99-00, he wasn't playing the same defense that he was in 1995 and he was a lot more of a scorer. He pounded the ball and took a lot more worse shots than KD is taking now.

GP is my second favorite Sonic of all time but there's a reason he never won anything meaningful as the best player on his team after the George Karl years. He pounded the ball too much, shot too much, and started to gamble more on defense. He was terrible in the locker room and not the best teammate. He tried to be Michael Jordan in that sense, but didn't command the same respect and after 1996 didn't have the veteran support to do it.

You're right, basketball isn't about putting up number it is about winning. GP only got out of the first round of the playoffs twice as the team's best player (Pierce was better in 1993, Kemp in 1996). He has a ton of individual accolades including DPOY, but it's not hard for me to imagine KD having more by the end of his career considering he was already All NBA First team and voted 2nd in MVP voting.

KD's career would be VERY disappointing if these OKC teams don't go farther than the Sonics teams did with GP as the leading man, and if he doesn't end up with more individual awards.

deleted :
What’s with all the hate here all of a sudden? The nice thing about this site used to be that there was no hostility, unlike on useless blogs of ESPN, CNN or other sites.
Now, I’m definitely a huge, huge fan of the Thunder. I LOVE KD and Westbrook and I’ll be happiest if both end their careers with OKC.
But if somebody says that Blake Griffin might be the better player, it’s his opinion. And while I’m not so sure of that, Blake really is very impressive. It’s not so far-fetched. It’s definitely wrong for Mark! to call comments like that “idiotic”. It’s all subjective, what makes Mark!’s opinion “better”?
Obviously, I’m very happy with KD as the leader of this team, but some hard-core fans are blinded by their man-crushes on him. He’s a great guy and player, but he’s not playing too well this year. Westbrook might not be better than him (and even if he were it wouldn’t matter…in fact, it would be great, as both play for our Thunder), but he’s absolutely having a better year so far.
Calm down guys. Enjoy the Thunder. Let people state their opinions. If you don’t like it, ignore it or respond respectfully, as everybody on this site probably cares a lot about the Thunder.
My opinions: KD needs to get his lanky xxx into the paint. Westbrook is amazing. Ibaka needs to be the starting 4. Green needs to be the 6th man. And I really hope Presti uses his cap space, draft picks and expiring contracts for a huge deal which puts this team over the top sometime before the extensions of Westbrook and Ibaka kick in.

That was a surprisingly reasonable post

Opponents feared payton. No one fears KD.

@justin

Are you really using your real screenname and an anonymous one to talk to yourself?

That's the problem with judging players on numbers. If you have actually watched the two extensively as you claim you would know the obvious truth that GP...the greatest 2-way PG arguably ever....gave you a far better chance at winning the ball game than Durant of last year would. And as far as i know the objective of playing basketball is to win not put up numbers. I cannot believe a self-described sonic fan is stooping to such an outrageous opinion. Ask any NBA player, coach, gm who they would rather have, prime gary payton or kevin durant

I suppose it's possible KD peaked in his third season and will never get back to that level.

Douglas :@justin

So Kevin Durant is better than Gary Payton? I am a sonic fan turned thunder fan once the team moved, much like you. I have watched every game Payton has ever played in a sonic uniform and every game Durant has played in an OKC uniform. What you just said is one of the most ridiculous comments ever posted on this site.

I would say Kevin Durant's season last year is better than any year that Payton had as a Sonic, yes. He's a better talent than GP in my opinion and has a better personality for leading a team.

If all KD does is just maintain what he did last year and not add anything to his game he will have a better career than GP.

What's with all the hate here all of a sudden? The nice thing about this site used to be that there was no hostility, unlike on useless blogs of ESPN, CNN or other sites.

Now, I'm definitely a huge, huge fan of the Thunder. I LOVE KD and Westbrook and I'll be happiest if both end their careers with OKC.

But if somebody says that Blake Griffin might be the better player, it's his opinion. And while I'm not so sure of that, Blake really is very impressive. It’s not so far-fetched. It’s definitely wrong for Mark! to call comments like that “idiotic”. It’s all subjective, what makes Mark!’s opinion “better”?

Obviously, I’m very happy with KD as the leader of this team, but some hard-core fans are blinded by their man-crushes on him. He’s a great guy and player, but he’s not playing too well this year. Westbrook might not be better than him (and even if he were it wouldn’t matter...in fact, it would be great, as both play for our Thunder), but he’s absolutely having a better year so far.

Calm down guys. Enjoy the Thunder. Let people state their opinions. If you don’t like it, ignore it or respond respectfully, as everybody on this site probably cares a lot about the Thunder.

My opinions: KD needs to get his lanky xxx into the paint. Westbrook is amazing. Ibaka needs to be the starting 4. Green needs to be the 6th man. And I really hope Presti uses his cap space, draft picks and expiring contracts for a huge deal which puts this team over the top sometime before the extensions of Westbrook and Ibaka kick in.

@justin

So Kevin Durant is better than Gary Payton? I am a sonic fan turned thunder fan once the team moved, much like you. I have watched every game Payton has ever played in a sonic uniform and every game Durant has played in an OKC uniform. What you just said is one of the most ridiculous comments ever posted on this site.

justin :KD is better than any player the Sonics had in the years I followed them, and some OKC fans are already talking about trading the guy.

That's a could be pretty big statement. I'm assuming you mean KD is better than Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Gary Payton, and Patrick Ewing. :)

dream catcher :

Simple Wonder :
It’d be kinda sad if Westbrook made the All-Star team, but not KD.

how would that be sad? One guy deserves it, the other doesn’t.

That's exactly right if we are picking all stars based on performance and not name recognition and reputation from the previous season. There is no question that between the two players Russell deserves to be in the ASG much more than Durant.

right now, the Heat and their disappointing performance performance has over shadowed all of the other teams not performing well.

Maybe being 7th or 8th seed going into the playoffs once again is okay with the Thunders management...

on the postiive side they will get a better draft pick!

my comments of last night game... Durrant, Green and Westbrook all of them lost it in the first half.

They lost it at the free throw line...

They lost it because they sucked... oh that is Scott Brooks fault...

Popcorn Machine: http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?dat...

It looks like Brooks' smallball was the 2nd most productive lineup of the night.

I bet Mullens is wondering why he can't get any minutes.

@DizzyDai
Brooks inexplicably took Serge out in favor of small ball. Result, Jordan Hill ended up looking like a younger Ben Wallace.

@DizzyDai

Jeff Green needed his 39 minutes.

And Nick and DJ White got some good burn yesterday. Just aren't that many minutes to be had in that frontcourt with JG around.

We didnt get it during the game either.

What happened to Serge after the 1st quater anyway? Did he get in foul trouble or was Brooks just small-balling again?

Simple Wonder :@Other
Thomas
Spo’ is being used as the scapegoat. Miami’s big three needs to grow up and play ball. They should have expected injuries coming in. Some say Riley should be the exec of the year. I would disagree completely. A basketball team is not made of 2 & 1/2 stars and 10 more aging veterans.

I get this part. I don't care about Miami. I do care about our shoddy defense and poor coaching. I think Spoelstra is a good defensive mind and would make a good coach (whether it be a head coach or an assistant coach) on the Thunder. Who are the other viable candidates out there? Nate McMillan may be a scapegoat at some point this season, but I feel like that would be too ironic. In any case, the thunder could (at the very least) use another assistant coach.

Jeff Green made up for Ibaka starting at center against the Pacers by grabbing 14 rebounds. Last night against Houston, no one could get a board.

If I have my choice, my center will average double digit rebounds, and I don't think Serge has that kind of game in his arsenal. His talents are better used as a help defender and midrange shooter.

KD will be an All Star, you guys are nuts. He started off last year the same way and look how he did.

KD is better than any player the Sonics had in the years I followed them, and some OKC fans are already talking about trading the guy. Completely ridiculous; and you call me negative.

@7
No. Ibaka is a power forward.

@Simple Wonder- While I haven't bothered trying to look this up, I'm willing to wager serious coin that the guy leading the league in points per game has appeared in every single all star game.

So how has everyone liked Serge at center these past couple games? Is it a viable long-term option?

Anonymous :

Simple Wonder :It’d be kinda sad if Westbrook made the All-Star team, but not KD.

Enough with the fabricated Westbrook vs. Durant issue. It would suck if Durant did not make All-Star team (which is extremely unlikely). But whether Westbrook makes it or not has nothing to do with that.

Unlikely? Just because he had an awesome year last year does not make him an automatic all-star. Remember he wasn't even voted in last year, it was the coaches choice.

How is KD more likely an all-star than Gay, Melo, Dirk, Beasley, Griffin, Love and Millsap? Sure he scores more per game, but his shooting percentages are lower than all of those players. Unless being a great freethrow shooter makes you an all-star?