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Thunder at Pistons: Pregame Primer

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OKC Thunder (1-0, 0-0 road) vs. Detroit Pistons (0-1, 0-0 home)

TV: FS Oklahoma (Cox 37, HD 722, Tulsa Cox 27, DirectTV 679, UVerse 753)
Stream: Click here
Radio: WWLS The Sports Animal (98.1 FM, 640 AM, 97.1 FM Tulsa)
Time: 7:00 CT

Offensive Rating: Thunder – 106.7 (16th), Pistons – 108.5 (12th)
Defensive Rating: Thunder – 95.6 (6th), Pistons – 111.8 (22nd)
Pace: Thunder – 99.4 (9th), Pistons – 90.3 (28th)

View from the enemy: Piston Powered

Ah, just like last season. 1-0 and heading to Detroit. This time though, we’re not going there with a “Holy crap! We’re 1-0!!!” feeling. We’re not going to Detroit fully expecting a return to reality. Nope. Now we’re expecting another 2-0 start. Just like last year.

That first game is out of the way and with a win in the pocket, it feels good. But that first road test is always a little something different. At times, this Thunder team has been flat on the road and in an environment like Detroit tonight where there likely won’t be a great crowd, I could see it happening. Of course OKC was a great road team last season, but this is a new year.

Detroit coming in: The Pistons lost their opener, a road game against the Nets on Wednesday. They had a shot to tie at the end, but missed. Nobody really stood, but they had seven guys score in double figures, with four of those coming off the bench.

THE MATCHUPS
Physically, the Pistons have one of the ideal guys to guard Kevin Durant. Tayshaun Prince has the height, the length and the skill to prevent KD from just shooting over the top. Problem is, the Pistons don’t really have much to match OKC offensively. Ben Gordon is a good scorer, but OKC has an ideal defender to check him in Thabo Sefolosha. (And when it’s not Gordon, it’s Richard Hamilton who Thabo matches well too.) Rodney Stuckey is solid, but Russell Westbrook is better. And then of course Ben Wallace.

Where the Pistons can do damage is if they get the drive and kick going. They hit eight 3-pointers Wednesday with Charlie Villanueva knocking down four. Detroit has versatile bigs in Villanueva and Austin Daye, but they aren’t the strongest inside players. Jeff Green matches up very well with Daye and the Thunder bench should be able to provide some good matchups as well. Overall, pretty much every matchup favors the Thunder. The Pistons are older, slower and not as athletic as OKC. They have some players with skill, but this isn’t a very good Detroit squad.

This is the type of game that the Thunder should win in a take-care-of-business fashion. Often times these games aren’t pretty. The opponent slops it up a little, plays physical and tries to take the Thunder out of their element. But the key is, is to just win.

Tip at 7:00 CT. Go 82-0.

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Ozark :
Random player comparison :
Jeff Green 21 ppg 4.5 rbpg
OJ Mayo 14.5 ppg 3 rbpg

holdmymartian :@Ozark

Green .400FG% .230 3P%
Mayo .416FG% .4543P%

Yeah if Green could knock down 45% from 3 he'd be a superstar too. ;)

@ThunderHorn

My only real concern (despite all my nitpicking) is Aldrich. Yes, there is time for him to work his way into the lineup, but I would think he would have an advantage to get some time in now while Collison is out. I don't see how his opportunities to get time on the court improve once Collison comes back.

It's really unfortunate. Unless he's injured and no one's talking about it, I'm absolutely shocked that Cook is somehow getting the nod over him.

Love Green. Love to win. That is all.

@Ozark
Green .400FG% .230 3P%
Mayo .416FG% .4543P%

Also, not sure how people can say they didn't deserve to win. They were leading most of the game, gave up the lead with 7 seconds left, then took the game back. Not sure why they didn't "deserve" to win.

Missing open shots is not the same as taking bad shots. He wasn't the only one bricking 3's all game either.

Some of you need to relax. The team is 2-0.

Harden is struggling but its only game 2. There's still 80 more games for him to get it going. There's plenty of time for Aldrich to work his way into the rotation. Collison will bloster the front-line when he gets back. KD isn't going to struggle to shoot all season long. Relax and enjoy the ride. Its a marathon not a sprint. Being the best team to start the season means little if the team flames out in the playoffs.

Random player comparison :

Jeff Green 21 ppg 4.5 rbpg

OJ Mayo 14.5 ppg 3 rbpg

dream catcher :I liked Ibaka, but I don’t think he was great. He got out of position too much and got out muscled a couple times too many.
still waiting for Aldrich…

I think he's playing well under the circumstances (playing out of position).

I liked Ibaka, but I don't think he was great. He got out of position too much and got out muscled a couple times too many.

still waiting for Aldrich...

Green's three point shooting was off, however, at least two of his shots were in and out, just millimeters off from going in. IF those go, he's 3 for 8 and all of a sudden he's golden. I'm just glad Brooks is the coach instead of most of the people commenting on this site.

I second the wowing of Ibaka.

On a night when we could not hit a shot to save our lives, the team did many other things well. Won the rebound battle by four, had only 12 turnovers (18 for DET). Steals 14 to 1. We would have blown them out if we didn't have such a bad shooting night.

The whole Cook thing baffles me as well. Finally, Ibaka....WOW!

@justin
But he better be out there for the last few minutes.

Kevin Love pipe dream update :

started, 27 minutes 17 pts 16 rbs. 3-12 fgs but 11-12 FTs compensates.

AT got 23 minutes.

Sammy :
Well, in revision to my earlier prediction:
If the Thunder win by less than 12, it’ll be because we sleepwalked through much of this game and/or because Rodney Stuckey and Ben Gordon absolutely go off and make a bunch of ridiculous shots they have no business making

True. How many times the rest of the year is a backup shooting guard going to make 68% of his shots. And it wasn't even all bad defense. He made a great shot while Thabo was playing great defense toward the end.

Being clutch isn't a justification for Green playing 40 minutes a game.

I just want to know why Brooks didn't give Nenad any minutes.He played well this game and they don't have good big men to defend him.

@okc thunder
Huh. Hopefully he gets hot again soon. Though it seems like all three of our SGs at the moment are cold (I know Thabo was 1-1 from the field, but he's not scoring more than 4 ppg).

That's 3 game winners for Jeff in OKC. Who's next on the THUNDER?

@Ozark
He proves it over and over.

@sas
Harden is having hard time converting for some reason. Hes gotten some good looks

sas :
Okay, here’s the question I have: What is Harden not doing this year? He’s getting very little production through two games (granted, on not very much minutes). I’ve only got gametracker and radio, so I can’t watch it. Is he just not involved in the offense?

playing very lethargic. just going through the motions.

Ethan :
Green said post game that the play was for KD. He just had to go when it wasnt there

That's because he's clutch.

Okay, here's the question I have: What is Harden not doing this year? He's getting very little production through two games (granted, on not very much minutes). I've only got gametracker and radio, so I can't watch it. Is he just not involved in the offense?

Green said post game that the play was for KD. He just had to go when it wasnt there

If Brooks continues to give rotation minutes to Cook, he should be forced to return his COY trophy. I really like Coach, and love his obvious rapport with the players, and how he has got everyone committed on the defensive end- that said, his player rotations so far seem downright crazy. Is he channeling Don Nelson?

Brooks isnt all that bad. That play was drawn up or practiced for green. If KD is double/triple team we need another hero.

@CenOK

Lee wouldn't have been an acquisition to try and win everything this year. He would've been a long term asset that we try to build around (Westbrook-Durant-Lee).

It's sort of irrelevant how he would have specifically fit in this year. Maybe Green comes off the bench and Lee starts next to Krstic. Maybe he starts next to Ibaka, who knows? You figure out a way to fit him in.

He can't possibly be any more difficult to hide on defense than Green.

And after this season, Green + Collison + Krstic could all be gone. So it's not like he would have to squeeze in amongst a lot of long term players. You keep who works, you replace what doesn't.

Anyway, the point is not "Lee was the answer." There will be other players. I'm just frustrated that our summer was spent on acquiring Aldrich who apparently can't beat out Cook for minutes.

Green does need to stop chucking up bad shots. And harness is skills. I still see an upside for him. Hes just to quick for a taller player. But D cook is a waste of space.

Well, in revision to my earlier prediction:

If the Thunder win by less than 12, it'll be because we sleepwalked through much of this game and/or because Rodney Stuckey and Ben Gordon absolutely go off and make a bunch of ridiculous shots they have no business making

For a lot of this game, I was willing to give Cook a much longer leash than most people here. But that 3rd and 4th quarter sealed it: I'll be satisfied if I never see Cook on the floor for the rest of the season.

Cook sure is helping from deep. I'll take green chucking over cook. At least he made one from deep and won the game when Durant was triple covered. We should play some Aldrich over cook. But its just two games, I'm sure cook will make one sometime.

Bob :
this game started so well and then came Daequan Cook.

Brooks twisted experiment!

BBad0823 :
yeahhhhh Jeff Green, can never stop believing!! Where are all those haters now?? Huh?? Got put on hush mode… go thunder!!

If Jeff Green would rebound and do anything else than chucking shots we wouldnt need him in the clutch.

Green may just be shooting himself out of any value for us as the season progresses..

Justin Jr. :
That”s what I thought…for all you Green Haters, without Green The Thunder win 30 this year!

Without Green we wouldn't be bricking 7 out of 8 wide open 3s.

Ok, I'm judging too harshly on this one game, but we see stuff like this all too often...

this game started so well and then came Daequan Cook.

@Mark!
Once again, where are we going to play Lee. I'm not saying Lee wouldn't be an upgrade over Green, but the organization obviously isn't ready to give up in Green. So unless you're planning on moving Durant back to SG and playing Sefolosha and Harden less than we already are, I don't understand where Lee would get playing time.

Durant had another 30 points on 9 of 24 night. Not good for the efficiency...

hahahahaha, what was ben gordon doing?

@Mark!

Also Lee scores closer to the rim. Last season, 59% of his shots were taken at 10 feet from the goal or closer. Krstic took 39%.

Why are we comparing Lee to Krstic again? I'm not sure I see the similarity between the two at all other than they're white.

andrew :
We are going to get stomped by some of these upcoming teams(Boston) if Durant doesnt start playing better and if we keep playing D Cook instead of a big man.

lets also keep in mind our intensity was not there this game. I guarantee you vs the great teams we will have better intensity.

BigVessXpress :
So how many more games before every team in the league starts complaining about the number of foul shots we take?

Get ready for it. We get to the line because of the way we play. I didn't see very many questionable calls tonight.

That"s what I thought...for all you Green Haters, without Green The Thunder win 30 this year!

I want to see our shooting from 16+ ft out...I want to see if it was over 20%.

So how many more games before every team in the league starts complaining about the number of foul shots we take?

We are going to get stomped by some of these upcoming teams(Boston) if Durant doesnt start playing better and if we keep playing D Cook instead of a big man.

What the hell is up with Cook still getting these minutes?

Plus, Serge is looking much better at 5 than he ever did in the preseason.