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Some thoughts from Friday’s open scrimmage

First, the very crucial important part: the Blue defeated the White 57-53 in Friday’s intrasquad scrimmage at Yukon High School. The coaches said the game wouldn’t just be some kind of All-Star type affair with alley oops and behind-the-back passes. And they were right. It was an intense game from the outset with most of that coming on both defensive ends.

But here are some observations from the night and two very amateur videos for your enjoyment:

  • First, the fans. Good grief. Yukon High School’s gym has a capacity of 2,200 and there were hundreds of people standing around the concourse because they ran out of seats. And the gym filled up so much that they actually had to turn people away and hand out vouchers to try and make up for it. Consider last year’s open scrimmage where the gym was probably about half full and compare it to this. I think you could say this team is having a major impact on this city.
  • Of the non-roster training camp invites, the guy that made the most of an impression was Elijah Millsap. That guy can play some defense. He jumped three passing lanes and on consecutive possessions stole a pass and finished with a dunk on the other end. He’s only 6’5 or so, but he defended Kevin Durant most of the night and actually did a pretty nice job. I’m not saying he’s going to make this roster, but so far, if anyone has a leg up, I’d say it’s him.
  • Serge Ibaka showed off a pretty confident stroke that extended out to around 20 feet. He made a 3, but it was a shot clock buzzer beater that was kind of chunked up there. But his jumper looks smooth and confident. There’s definitely a chance he’s used in more pick-and-pop situations this season.
  • No player looks more improved both physically and in terms of ability than Byron Mullens. He looks way stronger and has a pretty built upper body now. And he’s finally figuring out how to use his massive 7’1 frame. He ran the floor really well, didn’t hover around the college 3-point line and was actually battling inside on the glass and in the post. I’m convinced he has a chance to be something. His physical gifts are outrageous for a man his size and once things start coming together, he could be a legit rotation guy.
  • Four players didn’t play tonight: James Harden, Daequan Cook, Nick Collison and Nenad Krstic. Harden and Cook bumped heads in practice on Wednesday and have been taking it easy since then.
  • Not much to report in the Kevin Durant spectrum other than he’s still awesome at basketball.
  • One game I like to play with my wife when we’re watching a sporting event live where she doesn’t know any of the players is I ask her before the game starts who she thinks are the best players. (She knows all the Thunder players obviously, but I’m going somewhere with this.) It’s kind of a way to gauge who looks good compared to who actually is good. On the Thunder, Russell Westbrook definitely looks the part. Same goes for Kevin Durant. They have a look to them that catches your eye even if you had no idea who they are. But if there was going to be a draft with only the Thunder roster and it was based on who looked good, Cole Aldrich would definitely be the last pick. He looks so awkward and unorthodox out there.
  • BUT, Aldrich looked very good tonight in a basketball sense. He didn’t get one touch on the block, but you can tell he has an absolutely nose for the ball on the glass. He’s a natural rebounder. Every shot that went up, Aldrich either got a hand on the rebound or was at least fighting for it. He’s a lot like Kevin Love in that he just figures out how to get in good position. I wanted to see a little more of him offensively, but that’ll come later.
  • D.J. White is just automatic from 10-15 feet. He seriously does not miss.
  • Jeff Green had a massive dunk tonight off a Westbrook pass. It really was something else. Green attempted probably six or seven 3s though, hitting maybe three. He seemed to hover a bit around the outside.
  • The Thunder’s “official” DJ was there tonight and I really wish he’d come up with something to say other than “MAKE SOME NOIIIIIIIIIIISE!!!!” 50 times. But maybe that’s just me.

Preseason games are right around the corner and while this was a completely meaningless scrimmage, it was impressive how hard the team played for an hour. Guys dove on the floor, played intense defense and were focused all around. There was some sloppy play here and there and it didn’t look like they ran an offensive set every time down. But it was definitely a fun night and the turnout was tremendous.

The Thunder’s first preseason game is Oct. 6 at Charlotte.

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Literally or figuritively?

"Harden and Cook bumped heads in practice on Wednesday and have been taking it easy since then"

Revision to above...

...James "has" arguably won them all, though the last one was "closer on one measure, still not close on another". The Cavs won by 1 point in the last game.

But KD vs LBJ much depends on LBJ at SF and there has been talk of him moving around positions. I suppose KD could move with him but that would depend on who else is on the court for both teams.

KD vs LBJ perhaps for 10-15 minutes. That at any time should be pretty interesting to watch. They have only had a few head to heads and James was arguably won them all though the last one was close. The Cavs won at least the last 3 games.

Generally don't like watching practice, but this was impressive. The Thunder will be a true force in the West this season.

@Greg

Even if it is, we'll need a better offensive system and better offensive players for him to pass to. That would be nice and make Kevin Durant a lot more lethal but that doesn't solve the problem of finding productivity outside of KD.

@justin
I saw it this summer, and apparently the coaching staff has seen it in camp. Brooks had quite a bit to say about it.

@Greg

Is it really improved? We'll see when the season starts...

@justin
Durant's improved playmaking ability could go a long way in improving the offense. I don't think you should be overly-concerned, personally.

A lot of the comments and observations make me concerned about the offense. Quotes like this from Brooks: “Jeff is one of our better3-point shooters. It was definitely by flow,”.

I mean, come on. The offense has to improve this year, I know defense is the focus but my interpretation of training camp so far is that the offense isn't getting the attention it needs. Hopefully I'm wrong.

http://www.nba.com/thunder/video/2010/10/02/YukonFansPkgJBforwebmov-1429442/index.html

On a side note there is a great video at thunder.com of the Yukon scrimmage and how great our players were, as usual.

In addition we get our first look (WOW) at Kelly Crull, upgrade is the understatement of the decade. She will make Thunder broadcasts SOOO much better. I encourage you to check it out.

@Mark!
Good point. NBA TV will be there, but if it's anything like the coverage of the Miami scrimmage tonight, then I don't think that'll really provide much extra motivation.

@Sammy

I would agree if it were in OKC.

Instead it's in KC.

I'm sure the arena will be full of basketball fans, but a combination of bandwagon fans and general basketball fans won't be the same as if it were here.

So intense? I dunno. Maybe a little, but not when compared to what it could've been.

@Crow
Anyone feel like that game's gonna have way more intensity than your typical preseason game? Both teams have seem to be hitting their training camps extra hard.

Looks like that game will be on NBA-TV at 6:30 pm central

http://www.fangsbites.com/2010/10/nba-tv-to-tap-off-preseason-coverage-on.html

They play the Heat next Friday? I hadn't noticed that 'til now.

I read that Milsap has long arms but are they long enough to make it seem like he is the equivalent of an average 6'7 guy or more?

@Crow
MartzMimic's note about the change to NBADL allocation rules probably makes the decision moot. I'd be pretty surprised if we don't offer him a d-league deal at this point.

@Sammy

Several sites say Ivey was signed to a 2 year deal. Shamsports says the 1st year is guaranteed with the 2nd guaranteed if not waived by Sept 15, 2011.

Eeeeeeenteresting. From Darnell's scrimmage notes:

Durant’s playmaking was perhaps the highlight of the night. During the fourth quarter, Durant had the ball in his hands and orchestrated the offensive sets, bringing the ball up and running pick-and-rolls with the bigs or reading and reacting to whatever he saw. Durant set up Aldrich and Mullens for uncontested dunks and also got White an open baseline jumper. He looked much more comfortable with the ball in his hands, as he did in the FIBA World Championship. “Kevin is a terrific playmaker,” Brooks said. “Every year we’ve challenged him to get better in a lot of areas and he has. He’s come back a better defender and a better playmaker. That was the two things that we challenged him with every year since I’ve been here. And every year he’s improved a little bit. We expect another jump out of Kevin. And tonight he showed what we’ve been working on. Actually, all camp long he’s been a terrific playmaker. He can score. But when he passes the ball, it really opens up his game offensively.

@MartzMimic
Oh, interesting, I didn't know that.

They changed D-League rules to where a team can allocate their last 3 camp cuts to the NBADL. Of course, they have to sign a D-League contract, and they're not protected, but it's another step toward actually making it a farm system.

@Jeremy

Thanks for the notes Jeremy.

Is Royal Ivey claiming a roster spot right now? Would it be better if we waived him and brought Milllsap in to be Durant's daily hardship?

@Crow
I found Green vs White an interesting battle, DJ was talking some noise near the end to Jeff. Tweety played OK, not enough to distinguish himself, I thought Royal played a bit better. I think Kalamian coached the White, but didn't pay close attention

Interesting that Millsap is so good and physical with KD. That's exactly the medicine he needs to improve. Those types of defenders have been proven to bother KD.

I must have sat right next to you Royce (right behind Brian Davis, who BTW should pay a little bit more attention to the game, e.g., who's scoring, who's subbing in, etc.) Anyways, my long observations...

I thought KD did well on P&Rs up top, making the right decision a majority of the time. He needs to work on baseline P&Rs a bit, but his length will bail him out a lot. He was definitely a bit frustrated by Millsap.

One thing about Jeff I've noticed is that when he drives and gets bumped, he tends to fade away considerably, more than other players. There were at least 3-4 drives where this happened which led to an easy miss. He was more assertive in the 2nd half at least, we just need that consistently though.

Eric Maynor was on a whole different page than the rest of his team (Blue) the first quarter, and it showed in the score (White was dominating them pretty good), but the rest of the team finally caught up with him. Great change of pace from Russ. He is definitely Top 5 backup PG in the NBA

I loved Millsap's hustle. Even if he doesn't make the team, I'm sure it won't be last we see him.

I thought Byron played decent. He was in the right places, just needs to establish his base a bit more. Still really raw in the post, got bullied around there, but didn't look lost like in the previous years.

Serge was solid all around. Nice jumper, really nice post D.

I hope DJ White gets some more PT this year

Overall, the P&R defensive shifts were pretty good, though the offensive sets were a bit watered down. A lot of guys were standing around on offense for the first half, but just about everyone started moving to open spots during P&Rs in the second half.

Really sloppy passing out of dead-ball situations. Was hoping to see a few new things, but hey, its a scrimmage.

Absolutely dislike the DJ, like the drummers, really like Air Rumble (can never get tired of him for some reason). Great crowd as well.

Overall, enjoyed seeing the team play, and good way to get the season rolling.

If Brooks and Cheeks were watching who coached against Keefe? Was it the new guy from overseas?

Maynor vs Russ? Who shot better, defended harder?

Was Milsap only at SF or any at PF? His shot and turnovers were the main issues in college. Anything to say about his offense?

Anything worth mentioning about Tweety?

Was Ibaka playing mostly C because of the injuries?

Between Green, White and Milsap were there any interesting duels?

@dream catcher
He was a very affable robot.

Really though, I didn't press him for information on anything. Mostly I just said thanks for helping to make this team happen, but he refused to take any credit.

On both shots that possession, both the miss and the made three, Mullen's gives up position so easy.

Mullens might have improved, but his rebounding instincts aren't there yet. He's way late on position on in that second video, first defensive possession for his side.

Thanks for posting the videos and the update. Its good to hear Mullens is improving.

Osano-Whoa :
During a timeout I look around me and Sam Presti was sitting directly behind me. It was disconcerting at first, like watching a television show and then suddenly seeing one of the characters on the couch next to you. I talked with him for a little while and he he was really nice and really humble.

was he a robot, or did he give some unexpected answers?

I wish DJ would learn some defense, because that shot is perfect.

I thought Ivey played well. Not good enough for 3rd pg, but I liked his effort.

I don't think I saw Mullens take a jump shot, which is great. He looks bulked up and focused on rebounding. He was really playing above the rim and IMO, looked the most improved beyond Russ and KD.

if dj white cant make it here i want him on the knicks, him in a dantoni offense and not having to play defense would be awesome

That was just so much fun. I spent most of the game standing at the half-court line, but some people left early from the lower seats, so I moved to sit down. During a timeout I look around me and Sam Presti was sitting directly behind me. It was disconcerting at first, like watching a television show and then suddenly seeing one of the characters on the couch next to you. I talked with him for a little while and he he was really nice and really humble.

Seconding that Mullens looked good out there tonight. I really liked the play where he went down to the ground to recover a ball than actually wrestled it free from like two other players and made a pass for an easy basket.

Maybe it's related to his arms being so long, but Durant's passes just look cool. He laid out some really nice passes tonight.

I think Westbrook was wearing those custom Nikes tonight. He looked awesome as usual. He was also clearly trying to direct his team and take on a leadership role relative to it. Nice to see.

Thabo still seems scared of the corned three.

Green didn't look good.

I'm not crazy about the Ibaka headband, it makes his head look oddly proprtioned, which is weird since normally he looks like a male model.

Maynor looked really nice, it's going to suck when his contract ends.

I really want D.J. White to be good on our team. His midrange game is just kind of unbelievable.

Justin -

Pretty sloppy with the ball. There were a lot of turnovers. Durant seemed to stop moving without the ball sometimes.

Elijah Milsap was a BEAST. Longar Longar looked LOST.

Not sure if you noticed, but there were a few times that Jeff was working with Serge on the sideline, appearing to explain some cuts and offensive positions as well as some defensive stuff. It was really nice to see them coaching each other up. Also, I noticed that the guys on the bench were really up and encouraging the guys on the floor. Oh .. and Mo Pete is awesome. He was working with some of the other guys off to the side as well. I saw him working on some defensive footwork while they were setting up for a free throw. Gotta love that. I also found it interesting that Scotty and Mo Cheeks sat at mid court and just had a little discussion the whole time. That's pretty cool to let the assistants run the show and also cool for the players to respond to them. Crowd was good. Totally, TOTALLY, totally agree with you about the DJ guy. Annoying.

This is the first offseason where DJ White is healthy I'm hoping he gets an opportunity.

Sounds good. What are some things you saw that might need work?