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Wednesday Bolts – 9.15.10

I was out of pocket most of yesterday traveling, so that’s a big reason I missed a few things. Most notably, this terrific love letter to the Thunder from Etan Thomas on HoopsHype. The whole thing is just magnificent: “The fans are amazing. Like nothing, I have ever seen before. We had great fans in DC, don’t get me wrong. But the Oklahoma City fans gave the entire team a standing ovation for about 20 minutes after the playoff loss to the Lakers. I never heard anyone boo us no matter how bad we played. They were with us win lose or draw. In good times and bad times, it was really similar to a college atmosphere. I felt like I was back at Syracuse, although the Carrier Dome is one of a kind. The team fed off of that energy and it gave us a boost out there. The guys talked about it all the time and appreciated the support. I think a lot of times, the fans can make a bad situation worse by the way they react.”

Oklahoma City’s NBA Jam roster has Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green and Kevin Durant with special player Rumble. No surprises there really, though I was really pulling for a late push from Serge Ibaka. My quick take: Underrated NBA Jam roster, mainly because of Westbrook. Durant is pretty thin and might get shoved around (literally), but someone like Westbrook could be dominant. Fast, strong and explosive at the rim. Rumble might not be a ton of help though as we’ve seen he tends to struggle with finishing dunks.

Patrick Crawley of Neon Tommy with more on KD: “On a day when LeBron James was in Washington, D.C. relaxing and cheering on “his” Dallas Cowboys, Kevin Durant was half a world away, in Istanbul, putting the finishing touches on Team USA’s first world basketball championship in 16 years. While the reigning NBA MVP was trash tweeting and carrying on, the leader of America’s so-called “B-Team” was hoisting the FIBA world championship MVP trophy. And in that moment a shift was made. In leading Team USA to the FIBA world title, and setting all kinds of scoring records in the process, Durant made the leap from star to elite-level MVP contender. With that gold medal hanging from his neck, the 21-year-old Durant is no longer an echelon below King James and Kobe Bryant. He’s breathing down their necks.”

Former Team USA architect Sonny Vaccaro: “Kevin is the youngest of them all,” says Vaccaro. “It’s not like his year under Coach [Rick] Barnes at Texas made him who he is. He’s had these skills forever! He’s the same great kid who played for some Washington AAU team a few summers ago.”

Fran Blinebury of NBA.com writing about James Harden: “There were plenty of times last season when James Harden could have wondered what it was like to be a rookie getting all of the big headlines. After all, he saw Brandon Jennings drop in his eye-popping double nickels that were replayed endlessly on SportsCenter and he saw Tyreke Evans get enough opportunities with the ball in his hands to take home the Rookie of the Year trophy. What he also saw was room to grow.”

Sean Meagher of Oregon Live asked me about five questions for the Thunder’s training camp.

Ira Winderman on 2012: “For three weeks, Kevin Durant was the best player in the world, with what he accomplished in Turkey. Without Durant, it is possible the U.S. returns from Istanbul without any type of medal. And by the end of the competition, an argument could be made that Russell Westbrook was as effective as any point guard on the roster. But that doesn’t mean that USA Basketball fielded anything close to its best roster for this competition. And it is undeniable that most of the competition also fielded something less than its A-list, what with Russia lacking Kirilenko, France lacking Parker, Argentina lacking Ginobili, Spain lacking Pau Gasol and Brazil lacking Nene.”

Durant and Westbrook are looking good for 2012.

HoopsWorld says Erick Dampier should come to OKC: “The Thunder addressed that issue in the draft by trading for Cole Aldrich, a center from Kansas who has been one of the best big men in the NCAA for the past three years. The Thunder is currently banking on Aldrich’s addition, Nenad Krstic and the continuing development of Serge Ibaka, to be enough for the team to take the next step forward in the Western Conference. That may be too much of a risk to take in a year where so much is expected of them though. That’s why Dampier makes perfect sense.”

Dime debating who’s better: Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook: “Rose wins in the offensive category no doubt, but with Westbrook’s size, speed and strength — along with his ability to lead a team and never take a night off on the defensive side of the ball — he gets the nod as the better all-around point guard here in my book. The facts say it all; defense wins championships.”

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Cuban tried it 6 times with Nash- just one conference finals appearance, then used the money essentially on Dampier. 6 tries with him- one NBA finals appearance. Pretty opposite ingredients. Didn't quite get it right enough overall with either and the rest. Hard to beat everybody. How much to change or how long to stand pat is always a challenging decision.

Dampier started for the Mavs for 5 1/2 years, over which they average 57 wins. That must mean he is good or great right? Maybe, may not. That isn't enough by itself to say.

He led the league on offensive rebounding% 3 times and is 10th highest all-time on that. But he has been nothing special on this recently. Cuban and the Nelsons bought him after his breakout contract year PER 20, at age 28 well beyond anything previous. A shaky choice. He only averaged PER 15 in Dallas but they seemed fairly satisfied with it. You could say he played his role. His Adjusted +/- started out good, then faded very badly on one measure of it but stayed ok on another. (Something I am seeing fairly often.)

The two releases were motivated by financial considerations and age. He faded badly as last season went on with regard to shooting and blocks.

He'll re-sign somewhere, probably a contender. Whether he'll play much will depend on the team and circumstances and how "good" he is will depend to some degree on the eyes of the beholder and what standards are applied. And the context and role and his health. conditioning, effort.
It would not surprise if folks disagree on his performance. Unless you win it all, something probably needed changing.

I've never really studied Damp's game, but as a long time NBA fan I can say that he plays a very "mean and aggressive" style of defense. But there must be a reason that Dallas cut him loose and Charlotte, a defensive minded team, cut him loose also. There must be something there and I don't claim to know what it is.

He would seem to be everything that you would hope Aldrich would become, but there must be some bad attitude or mojo or something in the weeds there.

@Anonymous

I'm a Mavs fan in Dallas. Couldn't agree with you more, my friend.

Booya :
Ss405 : Lebron may be King but Durant Rules!
Put that on a t shirt and I’ll buy it!

Throw a Pope hat on KD and I'm in.

It does seem a little interesting that every time we hear about offense in OKC, it is entirely about KD. I understand that defense wins championships, but I wonder if we aren't getting a little single-minded. There are two sides to a basketball court. No one is going to take the crown from LA or take down Miami's super trio without that idea and implementation on their team.

There's a wide variance in the quality of writing on HoopsWorld, and I've noticed they've started
tweeting "World Comes to an End. Story at 11" headlines. I don't see any way in the world that Presti would go after Dampier. He was the weakest link on a team that's tried unsuccessfully for years to find an impact center.

As on OKC Thunder fan in the DFW metroplex that has watched the Mavs for a long time, Dampier would be a costly (large contract) mistake.

I stand corrected. Thanks guys.

@DJ

No. He wasn't. He tweeted about it, but wasn't there. He was there for the Jay-Z / Eminem show, but unless Captain Kirk had Scottie beam him from Turkey, there is no physical way he was there. Sorry bro.

4 Hours after the gold medal game?

I believe the Neon Tommy article is a little off factually. Durant was in DC at the Skins-Cowboys game along with Lebron.

I'm laughing at your responses to the Oregon page. It feels like that exercise from debate class where we'd answer questions with questions.

@Anonymous What a pleasant surprise. No joke though! When does this guy Zzzzz

That NBA.com article on Harden is good. Some Brooks quotes...

"We have a team that is getting better and he has to improve his defense," said Thunder coach Scott Brooks. "If he wants to be a player who impacts games, it has to be at the defensive end."

"I like what Harden does offensively. I like that he takes the ball to the basket and looks for ways that others can score, not only to score himself. But in order to stay on the floor and play meaningful minutes in big games, play in the fourth quarters of games, the defense has to improve. He understands that. He's worked hard in summer. You have to bring it into October and into the season. I'm seeing improvement, but he still has a ways to go. You shouldn't be getting beat on the same mistakes that were getting you beat in the first week of camp in your rookie year. What I like is that he wants to do that and he's working to that end."

"I like all of the things he does," Brooks said. "But I told him that the pressure is on him to be there for his teammates and to make plays. He doesn't have to give us 20 points a night. But he does have to attack and be aggressive every chance that he gets."

"We're only a small part of the way as a team to where we want to go and that's the way James has to feel about himself to help us get the rest of the way."

@DizzyDai
In the front in the back Killa Beez on attack!

on second thought, I think we should pass on Damp. He had 7.3 rb 6 pts & 1.4 blks last yr in 23.3 min per. Kristic had 5 rb 8.4 pts and .6 blks in 22.9 min per. Not enough better to warrant disrupting team continuity/chemistry+ I expect Kristic to marginally improve his production in the final year of his contract. Pass.

@Royce ... you didn't answer a single question. Was this your audition for NBA GM, college football coach, or are you beginning your political campaign?

@DizzyDai
combo of that and chad ford's "royal jelly" NBA young person/ queen bee analogy.

Ss405 : Lebron may be King but Durant Rules!

Put that on a t shirt and I'll buy it!

Westbrook never takes a night off on defense? I have a sneaking suspicion they didn't watch every Thunder game last year.

AC are thinking Thunder or Wu-Tang Killa Beez.

Dampier would take all the royal jelly away from our worker bee's. We need them to swarm!

Dampier is 35 years old. No way will Presti make room for him on the Thunder roster. He will stick with his philosophy of a young core. Sure Dampier could bring some leadership skills but who would we have to give up in exchange? Not worth it.

Dampier...hmmmmmm.....very interesting.

I was having the whole Rose vs. Westbrook debate during their rookie seasons. Sure Westbrook has improved since, but I seen the potential then.

Dampier would make sense if we had a roster spot available.

Lebron may be king but Durant rules!!!!

@Anon, why sleep when you can think/talk/write about OKC thunder!