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Tuesday Bolts – 8.31.10

Jenni Carlson writing on KD’s rising profile: “Playing in the world championships is only broadening Durant’s popularity. It is growing his brand. It is widening his stardom. That, Thunder fans, is great news for Oklahoma City. Small-market teams like the Thunder face many challenges, but one of the biggest is being able to keep superstars. They want to be paid big bucks, they want to win championships and they want to be able to become megastars, and sometimes, a small-market club can’t provide all of that.”

Skeets and Melas are finally back to talk some Turkey. And as you would expect, there’s a solid amount of ooh-ing and ahh-ing at Kevin Durant.

Shoals on Rob Mahoney’s Thunder-Team USA comparison: “What’s the difference? Well, for one, Westbrook isn’t starting in Turkey. But it’s deeper than that. The Thunder look weird because they’re supposed to, or at least Presti has determined that he’s engineered a combination of players that works. Team USA was stuck with the guys willing to show up. As it turned out, this consisted mostly of guards and versatile small forwards. This summer’s squad couldn’t be normal if it wanted to be; Sam Presti made a concerted choice to go in an unconventional direction. The future has not come to our national team, no matter how much we wish it were so.”

This post at The Lost Ogle is fairly brilliant.

KD is digging his Team USA teammates: “It’s been more like brothers here. Even though we have been together such a short time, it feels like everybody has been knowing each other for years and years. We play against each other so we respect everybody’s game but I think that off the court … for example, I didn’t know Lamar Odom was that cool … I didn’t know that Derrick Rose was that cool … it’s kind of easy … everybody’s personality fits.”

There is a first Daily Thunder fantasy league set up if you’d like to join. The password for the league is Thunder. Also, if you’d take this survey here, it’ll help determine what the participants want in terms of rules and whatnot.

Chris Mannix of SI with some thoughts on Team USA: “That Durant guy is good. Kevin Durant was good against Croatia. He was very good against Slovenia. And he was very, very good against Brazil, scoring 27 points (on 9-18 shooting) and pulling down 10 rebounds in the win. After being judicious with Durant’s minutes in the first two games, USA coach Mike Krzyzewski played his best player 39 minutes against Brazil. Durant’s seven turnovers were ugly — he may want a quick refresher on how tight international officials call traveling — but in big games Krzyzewski will have little reason to take Durant off the floor. Especially in games where the bench (six points) is ineffective.”

Royce Young of CBS Sports oh wait that’s me…

Chris Sheridan: “Wouldn’t have mattered if they had lost. Wouldn’t have mattered if Leandro Barbosa’s last-second shot went in and forced overtime. Doesn’t really matter much that they won. What matters is what Team USA learned about itself in Monday night’s thrilling 70-68 victory over Brazil. And the lesson the players took back to their hotel was that even the tough ones can still go their way.”

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If you guys want I can set up a new keeper league on Yahoo. If you're super serious we can go to KFFL and actually do their GM simulation game, but that actually costs money.

But with keeper leagues we'd need to find people who were serious - and sort of long-term committal to their team regardless if it succeeds or not.

And definitely we'd have to cap the # of transactions per week since the manager who abuses the waiver system tends to do rather well since keeper leagues tend to be more shallow.

I hate keeper leagues where some guy dumps for veterans and loses; then quits the league.

@John-o
I'm down for either a keeper or a dynasty. I like continuity from year to year. I'd probably go keeper though, just becaue dynasty takes away the fun of drafting the next season.

Did you guys want to do this as a keeper league or dynasty league? That ratchets it up to the next level of basketball geekiness... hard to find people that committed continuously.

I REALLY wanted to keep some of my DT fantasy team from last year.(DT league #2) I went 18-1-1 and won it all w/ KD as my MVP.(surprise, surprise.)

Yeah, I'm actually in San Jose California - but I was a big Thunder Fan for the past two years since I used to live in Kansas City. But really I'm just a huge fan of Serge.

I really wish I could have seen him when they played Golden State but I was out of town :(

I had him in my dynasty league by drafting and stashing from the 08-09 season (still managed to win the league that year!).

As much as I'd love to actually be there for a live draft, the whole being a broke college student living in LA thing makes it fairly unlikely that I will be able to attend in person. Sadness.

I'm sure if we set a live draft date and time two months in advance we could get everyone there. I'm hoping to get a chance to meet some fellow DTers to see how many boo and how many people are dissappointed when someone makes a homer pick and picks up Uncle Jeff in the 4th rd
- No Talent Ass Clowns

@DXL
Sure, length has always been appreciated. But no matter how you slice it, it's an odd roster composition when your leading rebounder is your SF and when you have a top six rebounding team even though no one grabs more than 7.6 boards per game.

@Elegy444 @Rhett

Yeah, I bumped it from 12 to 14 people and it filled up really quickly...

Rhett, can you email me at holeydonut at-sign gmail com? If someone backs out I'll contact you about the opening first thing.

@Sammy
But aren't most teams obsessed with length (think of Jay Bilas' comments about length on draft day)? We happened to luck out with Durant and Sef, two of the longest guys at their positions, but all the teams in the NBA would love to have both guys.

Also, having a point guard who can board doesn't seem that unusual. Jason Kidd started that trend a long time ago.

Now Houston playing really, really undersized guys like Aaron Brooks and Chuck Hayes seems truly unconventional.

| Kevin Durant, Team USA's scoring leader after three games, is coming off a season in which he led the NBA in scoring -- something Andre Iguodala believes we should get used to seeing. "Kevin Durant will be the NBA's all-time leading scorer when it's all said and done," Iguodala said emphatically. "He loves the game and has a knack for putting the ball in the basket."

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/219...

Well if the league was full by noon, I'm sure there will be enough for another league.

@DXL
When people speak admirably about the Thunder roster and say that we are the new model for the future of the NBA, they're talking more about the versatility, length and athleticism of our perimeter players. Having a 1-4 that can rotate and defend and collectively rebound like we do isn't conventional in the slightest, and wrt this aspect, I definitely do think it is a result of an intentional strategy on Presti's part.

@F5alcon
And if Krstic had the wheels, could handle the ball and pass better, he could be a point guard. The point I'm trying to make is that the Thunder isn't necessarily unconventional, rather they don't have all the pieces they need at certain positions.

Krstic is what he is. On teams who had someone better in front of him, he'd be a serviceable rotation player instead of a starter.

@Sammy
Agreed, the unconventionality on the roster is just a product of circumstance, not a plan. And it's going to be corrected over time.

I love the way Presti's been drafting bigs: Ibaka, Aldrich, and Pleiss coming down the road. Even Latavious Williams and Ryan Reid are long-term prospects that could eventually fill a Nick Collison/Udonis Haslem garbage-man role at power forward. To win championships you need variety, quality and quantity in big men.

@Sammy
As I said, if you want to talk about an effective center, that's certainly a valid point. :)

@MartzMimic
krstic could be a stretch 4 if he could defend it

@MartzMimic
Sure Krstic is a center, but he's a poor rebounding center who likes to get his offense from 15-18 ft. That's not too typical when your PF is a stretch 4.

I would disagree with the "true center" part. If Krstic isn't a center, what is he?

Now, if you want to talk about an effective center, that's a valid discussion...

@DXL
Look who we're playing at PF. Our starting center last year's biggest asset was his jump shooting. The team's built upon its team defense and perimeter offense. Positional interior defense is compensated through tight rotations. Our 1-3 are all super long, athletic and expected to carry much more of the rebounding load than is traditional. Our 1-4 are all tweeners.

Presti clearly values versatility, but the team's make up is more a result of circumstance than of design. Presti just drafted the BPA at every opportunity and this is the team he ended up with. Moving up to grab Aldrich as well as the reneged trade for Tyson Chandler show that Presti's knows that the team still needs a more traditional interior presence.

Can't wait to play some fantasy ball with people who follow the NBA. Who's all in?

@DXL
Jeff Green is unconventionally bad at the position he plays.

Haha, sorry, just wanted to be inflamatory. There are some unconventional things about the Thunder though. Starting two guards who can't shoot is unconventional, especially doing so and having any success. Starting 3 frontcourt players who would rather be outside the paint than in it is pretty unconventional. They have done things to address these unconventional attributes though, which I guess was your point. Harden is a conventional SG, Aldrich is a conventional C, etc.

Wow - the league filled up pretty quickly! I'll send out a league email blast once the survey votes are cast. System-Messages from Yahoo often find themselves in the SPAM box, so please be on the lookout for a message later today.

Coordinating a live draft time is always tough since it's rare a time exists that satisfies everyone. Hopefully we can find something that ultimately works out for everyone.

I realize the new season is about 2 months away, so I'll send out reminders as the season approaches.

Re: Shoals, what exactly is so unconventional about the Thunder? Team USA is very unconventional, with its lack of a true center and surplus of point guards, but the Thunder seem conventionally constructed.

OKC had a weakness at center therefore they draft the best defensive center in the NCAA and one of the best young centers in Europe. Both really big guys. What's unconventional?

that lost ogle jediOKC post is amazing.

I'm in on the league this year. Missed out last year, but came in 3rd in my league even though my marquee players were Garnett, Bosh, and Oden...

Yes! I love fantasy basketball. I won the regular season and lost in the final in last year's Daily Thunder league. Damn you LeBron and your Peyton Manning-esque barely playing for the last few weeks ...
Sorry, rant over.

I've never done fantasy basketball; I just wanted to see how it worked/what it looked like.

I don't know who the "No Talent Ass Clowns" are, but that team name is priceless...

It's league ID#: 10519 Pass: Thunder
Just go to Yahoo Fantasy Basketball and join a private league.

The fantasy league is not viewable to the public, Royce.

Just signed up for the fantasy league. Any chance we could have a live draft at BWW or Toby Keiths? Have Darnell do pick by pick analysis? Thunder girls?

I thought team USA was thunder 2.0,but I was wrong.It is thunder 1.1.
KD only rested 36 seconds.It made him lack energy at last minutes.Can Love、Gay or Granger play KD's role 5 mins?

Is Kevin Durant the reincarnated Will Rogers? Has he ever met someone he didn't like?