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There’s two contrasting thoughts typically around NBA fan circles about what role Team USA can play on that fan’s team. These thoughts usually depend entirely on what happens to the players from that fan’s team while they are representing their country, positively or negatively.

Thought A is that the risk versus reward is too great and that only bad can come from it. These are the fans who claim that any actual basketball development or improvement while playing with the Team USA squad and coaching staff will be so negligible that the risk for injury and/or the non-rest that these players experience during the off-season puts them in an unfavorable position heading into the season. They’re either going to be too tired and a little worn down from the games and practices during a time that they are typically resting and recuperating from a long season, thereby making them more susceptible to picking up nagging injuries or to suffer from fatigue earlier in the 82 game haul than usual, or they will actually enter training camp with an injury/still trying to fully recover from one and that hampers their ability to enter the new season in top form.

Thought B is that risk for injuries or exhaustion is minimal for a Team USA player in the contrasting context of an 82 game season whereas the experience of playing with some of your country’s best players/coaches, especially for younger players, can act as a springboard to an entirely different level of mental development as well as physical/basketball skill growth. In other words, risk of injury is a part of basketball so unless a player is known to be somewhat brittle, what’s the difference between them playing a pickup game on asphalt or at an NBA team’s training facility versus playing with Team USA, especially since a few months of games and practices is nothing compared to the 9 months of night in, night out basketball grind that the players go through during an NBA season?

For me, both sides have their points and ultimately it comes down to just one simple thing in terms of the fans’ perspective (after all, for the players this is really about representing your country and wearing that jersey with pride and honor…but NBA fans usually aren’t nearly as worried about that part).

That one thing is this: Will there actually be development and improvement?

Cause if there’s not, there’s definitely too much risk and not enough reward for Thought A to not overpower Thought B since the only other component of Thought B’s argument is that, well, injuries happen all the time in basketball so why not just let them play. That kind of thinking, without being coupled with an “Oh, and they can get even better for the coming year” is going to fall flat to almost any NBA fan if we’re thinking strictly about Team Celtics, Thunder, etc instead of Team USA.

But the funny thing about Thought B is that, judging by the last Olympics, that improvement can be seen and it most assuredly makes an impact.

Everyone seems to forget this, but Kobe Bryant’s work ethic and all-around commitment to improving until the day he retires had such an impact on the Redeem Team’s youngsters that many, MANY individuals credited that experience as the starting point when someone like, say, Lebron James, saw what he could be if he (as he intimated himself) stopped selling himself short and started showing up as early as Kobe did, put in the time and effort to become transcendent instead of just top five, and made that unrelenting commitment to defense, chasing down every fast break like a locomotive instead of letting them get an easy dunk/lay-up, filling the defensive lanes, etc, etc.

Another example, though not one that applies to the Thunder’s young trio, is the rejuvenation Charles Barkley experienced after the 1992 Dream Team regarding his career.

So improvement can happen, sometimes in staggering degrees, but since Kevin Durant will undoubtedly be the best player on this USA squad and there’s no Kobe, Lebron, etc for him to get a good glimpse of in terms of what he could improve upon (especially since KD already seems to possess all the work ethic a human being can possibly handle), the jump in development will most likely not be tremendous for him but hopefully impactful and more maturity centered nonetheless. Now concerning Jeff Green and, especially, Russell Westbrook, there is more to be optimistic about regarding improvement.

So here are the individual aspects of improvement I’d like to see each Thunder player bring to this upcoming season (and beyond) from their time with Team USA.

Kevin Durant – Become a facilitator more than just an unbelievably amazing scorer

The reason I’d like to see this from KD is because I think being the alpha dog on Team USA will almost demand this next stage in development for Durant’s game. There is no doubt who is the best player on this squad and who is the biggest offensive threat on the floor no matter who the USA plays against. KD will be wearing a red, white and blue bulls-eye, which is precisely why he can become that much more effective and lethal of a player if he can continue to progress as a passer and creator of offense for the team than just for himself.

Obviously I’d add dribbling, slashing while in traffic and a few other nit-picky things if I could since he already does so many things well, but the day Kevin Durant can become as much of a threat as a creator as he already is as a scorer, well that’s the day he becomes not only unguardable, but unstoppable.

And I honestly think he can do that quickly, which is the scary part since he’s still only 21 years old, folks.

Russell Westbrook - Improve the skill that got you drafted

Russell Westbrook was drafted to play lock-down, suffocating defense. To apply so much pressure in the backcourt and on the helpside that opposing guards/teams could never take a play off and always had to execute under tremendous pressure, thereby freeing up easy baskets and transition offensive opportunities for a young, athletic team to take advantage of every game.

Thus far in his career, Westbrook has shown flashes of that ability but has never managed to put it all together either out of a lack of focus and understanding or out of a lack of desire (which is a little hard to believe coming from someone famous for effort).

But this might actually be the biggest potential improvement that the Thunder could see via Team USA as Coach K and numerous Team USA sources continue to rave about Westbrook’s defensive ferociousness and acumen, especially since the presence of Rajon Rondo seems to be something of a spark plug for Westbrook’s defensive prowess.

If this translates to the upcoming season and the defensive monster that we saw at UCLA and, apparently, can be seen at Team USA practices and scrimmages takes the court for the Thunder over the span of 82 games, then every Thunder fan should send Rajon Rondo a gift basket of the finest beefs and cheeses.

Jeff Green - Use your strengths and matchup advantages instead of simply settling

I think the versatility and all-around skillset that Jeff Green possesses is easy to overlook but I think Green is probably the one responsible for this slight as much as anyone.

Jeff Green is very, very talented. He does almost everything either above average or really well…but he doesn’t do any one thing at an elite level. And while that’s both a compliment and a bit of a criticism, what it really should be is a license for Jeff Green to understand that he will never be a better rebounder or post presence than most low post, banging power forwards and he will never be as fast, as skilled a slasher or as good of an outside shooter as most stretch power forwards.

But he will be better than most at almost every other aspect of the game.

I can promise you that Jeff Green is better than either of the aforementioned, specialized group members when it comes to two or three of those traits, if not infinitely superior in some. If he’s up against a banger, Green needs to draw him out and use his quickness to his advantage and attack by going by him. If he’s up against a slashing, outside shooter, Green needs to use his size and physical superiority to back him down and force the double-team or shoot more close-to-the-basket shots that he’s obviously improved upon.

In short, Jeff Green has got to start maximizing his strengths and minimizing his weaknesses, thereby capitalizing on the one thing he has that most forwards in the NBA don’t have: a versatile, all-around game. Green should be exploiting the fact that he doesn’t fit the mold of a typical forward, not having to excuse it or defend it.

This is where it’d be really nice if Lamar Odom could just really go all out and show Jeff what mismatches can really do for you if you exploit them.

So those are my top three things and while I don’t expect all of them to come to fruition (if only), I honestly do think Thunder fans will see improvement from the trio when training camp opens. The only question is, how much?

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@Greg
Exactly. My thoughts are from my memory and purely anecdotal (I'm too lazy to go back and dig up stats), but we saw it time and time again.

Then we saw stuff like when CP3 went down and Darren Collison went on that mad run, Westbrook went all Artest on him, holding Collison to 8 points on 3-14 shooting (and only had 4 points on 1-12 shooting until the final 1:30 of the game). Russ had something to prove against an old UCLA teammate, and it showed.

And, yes, lazy me did look that up :)

@MartzMimic
I just don't get why Andre Miller was one who abused him the most.

I think JG hit on something about Russ' defense that I noticed last year. Generally, if he had a personal stake in defending someone, he was almost maniacal. If it was an average point guard, or even an above-average or elite player to whom he had no real personal connection, he didn't have the same intensity on defense. I'm hoping we see less of that this year and in the future.

You have to consider Shaq's enormous ego and how divisive he can be in the locker room. For all his memorable quotes and funny antics he brings, he usually destroys the chemistry of any team he's on.

Greg :NBAtv is showing highlights of all 6 games from the LA-OKC series for about the next 12 hours.

I heart NBAtv

@william
Durant isn't any more of a PF than Green right now, he's just a better player all around which makes him look like he can do anything. I would rather maximize KD at the cost of minimizing Green than vice versa.

@Anonymous
Presti hasn't given indication yet that he's willing to take one year players and give them prominent (or even rotation) roles. While I don't think Shaq is actually worth the money we have next year (not to mention how it limits our ability to make other deals), he certainly wouldn't be terrible to throw out on the court against big centers. I just don't see the track record for changing the team around a role player.

@Anonymous
Shaq has 4 rings but Kobe has 5,maybe he wants to join a team which can beat LA

Chris Paul and the Hornets met Monday and publically proclaimed that the point guard wants to remain in New Orleans, but no one is buying it.

"The telltale thing is that Chris Paul won't comment publicly other than what was released about it," a person familiar with Paul's strategy told Ken Berger of CBSSports.com. "Leon Rose didn't come out and say, 'Chris is happy in New Orleans.' If he was happy, they would've said that. ... The only way they can get close to full value is to say, 'You guys can't make trade demands.' They're orchestrating this thing to likely move him."

Berger reports the Hornets are talking with Orlando, Charlotte and New Jersey about a deal. Paul's preferred destinations are reportedly New York, Orlando, Portland and Dallas.

"They don't want to let CP3 dictate the teams," the person said. "And they can't look like they are being held hostage by his trade demands."

According to the Toronto Sun, Raptors president/general manager Bryan Colangelo was interviewed by a Toronto radio station on Monday and seemed to question whether Chris Bosh checked out at the end of the season and said it was difficult to build around the power forward.

"Whether he was mentally checked out or just wasn't quite into it down the stretch, he wasn't the same guy," said Colangelo. "I think everybody saw that, but no one wanted to acknowledge it. At the same time, I never felt we were quite in the game (in terms of signing Bosh to a new contract). There was too much out there, too much built up for him to take an easy out here, and he decided to do that."

"We tried in vain to put pieces around Chris. Different pieces, different styles. It didn't work out," added Colangelo. "No matter what type of player we brought in, it didn't seem to have the right mix with him as that centerpiece."

From The News-Herald:

"The Cavs have interest in small forward Joey Graham, who played on a non-guaranteed deal in Denver last year. The 6-7, 225-pounder played the first four years of his career in Toronto. He was a first-round pick of the Raptors out of Oklahoma State in 2005."

Minnesota will waive West before his 2010-11 salary becomes fully guaranteed next week. West has $500,000 worth of salary protection for next season.

The Star Tribune reports Telfair will either be traded or offered a buyout.

@holdmymartian
I don't think there are many folks that would be into that trade, bro. It's very against a "Presti-type" move.

So I was thinking of a hypothetical trade for CP3. Does this work for both sides: OKC receives CP3 and Okafor and sends Krstic, Collison, Westbrook, Green, Cook, Weaver and White and LAC pick and 2011 1st. NOLA could trade Westbrook to a number of teams for more draft picks etc.

I like how Kahn mentions them doing well in Cleveland.

WHY Not takse JEFF GREEN in SF this year and let's KELVIN DUNRANT in PF position i think he can play in PF aswell he can shot every where?? very easy when i saw he run to the rim and DUNK!!! this is GOOD for GREEN??and OKC actually??

Rose had Hinrich,Jennings had Ridnour but Flynn had Wilkins.They need someone to help Flynn and Rubio.I think it is why he sign Ridnour.

Sessions is better than Telfair, and probably better than West, too. This makes no sense.

@holdmymartian
khan just needed to add more pgs, he has an obsession with them

@holdmymartian
It still just boggles the mind as to how that guy still has a job. I get that he probably knew Flynn was going to be out a while, but he just traded a pretty quality young PG in Sessions for nothing. It's not like Sessions had a big, bad contract, it was rather reasonable. Now Minny has a one-year downgrade in talent (Telfair) and a guy they are going to cut.

I know Minny was losing money last year, but my gosh, they are just selling everything they have. We should offer Kyle Weaver's non-guaranteed contract for Kevin Love. They could wipe his contract right off the books.

@Keith. Or he forgot to take them...

@Greg
Wolves Jonny Flynn expected to be out 3-4 months after hip surgery next week.
They can save 4M if they cut West and maybe Telfair can be backup for Ridnour.

@Greg
It's like Kahn is on crazy pills.

- The Minnesota Timberwolves have agreed to trade point guard Ramon Sessions and forward Ryan Hollins to the Cleveland Cavaliers for point guards Delonte West and Sebastian Telfair.

Anonymous :Nice article JG.
On a side note … anyone else hoping for a few bobble head nights this season? I’d love to get a full set of Broingtons for my office.

Absolutely! My only complaint about the organization is the lack of bobbleheads. Shinn may be a crap team owner, but his team did I first class job when it came to passing out lots of bobbleheads.

NBAtv is showing highlights of all 6 games from the LA-OKC series for about the next 12 hours.

i been waiting all day to hear greg.. whats up with that? i thought i head today?

Was there supposed to be a cut today on the USA team?

AI :
It would be great if Durant and the other guys can shine enought to lure Marc Gasol.

Now there's an idea..

It would be great if Durant and the other guys can shine enought to lure Marc Gasol.

@Joe
How long did they date, maybe it has to last a whole season to work.

@J.G. Marking
I almost think Lamar Odom isn't a great idea for chasing matchups. While he obviously has all the skills, he's never consistently put it together enough to say he was really utilizing what worked instead of just having good days. For versatility and exploiting day to day matchups, I think Jeff should watch the progression of Josh Smith. Smith went from mind-numbingly frustrating to arguably the best player on the Hawks in one season just by doing two things: stop settling for jumpers, focus on defending the man he had instead of just the guy he might block (in Jeff's case focus on the PF in front of him, don't hang your hat on just making good rotations).

I guess saying "annual" and "Christmas" is a bit redundant, but whatever...my grammatical bad.

"...Thunder fans should send Rajon Rondo a gift basket of the finest beefs and cheeses."

If Rondo is R-dub's defensive rally-monkey then he can have my great aunt's annual Christmas fruitcake. I'll even give him the recipe ;)

Good stuff here, J.G.

this got me pretty pumped up for next season. want to destroy utah/tony brothers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXD0Q553LE&feature=related

so many bad memories.. D:

Anonymous :
I think Odom needs to hook up Jeff Green up with one of his SIL’s. The trend is pretty clear: Date a Kardashian, win a championship.

Except for where I just read in ESPN mag that Rashad McCants dated Khloe Kardashian before Lamar Odom, and now he's out of the league; so your theory doesn't work.

@J.G. Marking
Double-stickman. Brilliant.

J.G. Marking
My only complaint is that Episode 11 was not named, “The Double Stickman.”

haha, and that's why I'm not a writer, both the obviousness and creativeness of a title like that would never come to me.

I wouldn't have as many complaints about Green if he understood how a man was playing him and used his strengths to his advantage.

@Brad
Thanks, I appreciate it. And in a shameless attempt at cross promotion within the site, if you haven't listened to the DT's official podcast, you really should: http://www.dailythunder.com/2010/07/thunderground-radio-ep-11-an-interview-with-brian-davis/

My only complaint is that Episode 11 was not named, "The Double Stickman."

@Anonymous
Indeed. Obviously I think Green will be here in a month.

cue Jeff Green debate in 3...2...1...

JB :At the point where you start hoping that LO will rub off on Green (in a positive way), I think maybe you’re talking yourself into Thought B a little too vigorously.

Only in a positive way!

But yes, it's far more likely Green realizes this all on his own than it is for Odom to inspire/guide him...unless we're talking about candy eating, of course.

I'm very encourage by what I've been hearing about Russ over the last week. Good for him!

At the point where you start hoping that LO will rub off on Green (in a positive way), I think maybe you're talking yourself into Thought B a little too vigorously.

I hope Jeff Green is still a Thunder when team USA is playing. That is, as long as it's affordable and isn't blocking other players development, and he himself improves next year on the things you mention.

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