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Rumor: Eric Maynor, 18 and 21 to the Pacers for No. 10? (Updated)

UPDATE: Marc Spears of Yahoo! reports the deal was discussed but is now “doubtful”.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! just reported on Twitter that the Thunder and Pacers are in “serious talks” about a deal involving Eric Maynor, OKC’s 18th and 21st picks and the 10th overall pickĀ held by Indiana. (Update: Chad Ford and Andy Katz are also reporting this too.)

I definitely don’t love that deal, and that’s not just because I like Eric Maynor a lot. But it’s pretty clear that today’s trade bringing Daequan Cook and the 18th pick to OKC was just the beginning. Presti is really cooking something up, but what it exactly is, isn’t really clear. Eric Maynor is nothing more than a quality backup point guard which isn’t the hardest thing in the world to replace. And I’m sure Maynor would love to go to Indy and become their starting point man right away. But for a team as desperate as Indiana to acquire a point guard, it just seems like a big price to pay for No. 10.

Who is Presti targeting? Will Greg Monroe last to No. 10? Possibly. Draft Express reported that the Warriors are extremely interested in Ekpe Udoh at six. The teams drafting seven to nine (Pistons, Clippers, Jazz) aren’t locks to draft a big man, but chances are pretty good they will. The Pistons have liked Ed Davis for a while, but if Monroe fell in their lap, I’m sure they’d have to think about it. And I don’t think Monroe would make it past Utah either.

DX also reported that OKC likes Cole Aldrich and Udoh at 10. If the Thunder got there, their options would open some as to what big man they could get, but is it really worth it? Is Aldrich worth Eric Maynor and two picks? Is Udoh, who is basically a watered down Serge Ibaka? Maybe Presti knows something and is expecting Monroe to fall, which would be fantastic but probably a pipe dream. Just getting to 18 openedĀ up a number of new options, but drafting 10th would welcome a bunch of new faces into the equation. Patrick Patterson, Udoh, Aldrich, Al Farouq-Aminu, maybe Monroe and Ed Davis. But again, are those guys worth Maynor and two picks? I don’t really think so.

Whatever the case, don’t go anywhere. Stuff is going down and this is starting to get good. At this point, if Presti traded the 51st pick for Kyle Korver and the ninth pick, I don’t think I’d be surprised.

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Hickson was benched because Shaq was back for the playoffs and they thought throwing big bodies on the floor was better than the rotation they'd been running and practicing all year.... Look how that turned out for them. But going forward they value Hickson as a promising piece or as a valuable trade piece.

Hickson was benched b/c Mike Brown had no idea what he was doing.

Is it just me or does this "fire sale" in Miami make anyone else think they might know more about Lebron and maybe Bosh and their free agency leanings...

@daniel
thanks,D

ANyone know Durants real twitter name?

NO HAYWARD!! Not a need. Id take Babbit over Hayward anyway.

Presti, dont prove that your previous moves, as I felt they were, are "too good to be true."

i feel its somewhere between a late first rounder and what it would take for ibaka, its just unclear where that is exactly... I guess he and Ibaka are pretty redundant. I was just brainstorming what the Cavs could give us in return for a pick or two.

AC :@DizzyDai hickson for the 26th?????? that’s not realistic at all.

They benched him, so I doubted they were that big on Hickson. Obviously I was wrong.

AC :@justin I was under the impression they viewed him a little differently. They played him for 1 minute or less in 4 of 11 postseason games.http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?play...

Nobody is as high on him as they are on Ibaka. Not even close.

@DizzyDai
hickson for the 26th?????? that's not realistic at all.

@justin
I was under the impression they viewed him a little differently. They played him for 1 minute or less in 4 of 11 postseason games.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?play...

justin :@James
Aldrich is a banger and is active around the rim. He moves towards the rim. Ibaka is more lithe, tends to fade away, doesn’t know how to box out. Wants to play help defense. And he just plays better with another big guy on the floor with him.
As for athleticism, Aldrich tested better than Greg Monroe in lane agility and identical in sprints. His max vertical was an inch shorter. He is fine.

Did you watch Aldrich against good competition this year? He was a banger against the 6'6 200 lb centers but he was not impressive against the better teams they played when I watched. Did you watch him play very much this year? Against Baylor (Udoh) had 10 points and 4 rebounds. Against Texas he went 2-10 with 5 rebounds. Against KSU he went for 9 points and 4 rebounds. Did you watch the UNI game that Kansas got knocked out of the tourney? The UNI center went right at Aldrich and scored on him pretty much at will down the stretch. He won't help this team.

Also I'm serious here, if we're looking for a veteran big who knows how to win, I think we should target Scalabrine from Boston. He's been in two championship runs, is completely fine with being a role player, isn't that bad, and every interview I've heard from him has been oh wow, this guy cares and knows what it takes to win, he's just not that good. We could probably get him for 1.5 million (overpaying so he have incentive to move). Just a thought.

@AC

Cavs probably like JJ Hickson about as much as we like Serge Ibaka, so no it's not likely.

@AC
A lot more than what it would be worth. IF they think they're losing Lebron, right now they're going to build around Hickson or they're going to trade him for some big assets to build around. The Cavs rejected Phx's offer of Amare for Hickson because they like Hickson as a long term prospect. That's the kind of value they think he has.

@AC

If we don't move up, I'd do Hickson for the 26th.

@f5alcon

Agreed. He has to show he can shoot the ball effectively. I don't see him getting that much floor time behind Harden / Sefolosha (Cook is not a SF) unless there are injuries. But it's good to have a shooter around for depth.

There have been lots of rumors about the cavs wanting to move into the draft. What do you think it would take to get JJ hickson?? and would it be worth it?

@DizzyDai
probably depends on his performance

We are not after the Butler kid. Plain and simple.

I'm curious about Daequon Cook. Do we think he'll stick around? He is young and has been known to knock down threes.

Or will he be another Thunder one and done. Like Joe Smith, Desmond Mason, Etan Thomas, Kevin Ollie and ect.

Kim Kardashian is dating Myles Austin? He's out of his league a little with that one.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kim-kardashian-has-a-new...

Sorry not Thunder related

@James

Aldrich is a banger and is active around the rim. He moves towards the rim. Ibaka is more lithe, tends to fade away, doesn't know how to box out. Wants to play help defense. And he just plays better with another big guy on the floor with him.

As for athleticism, Aldrich tested better than Greg Monroe in lane agility and identical in sprints. His max vertical was an inch shorter. He is fine.

justin :@James
Aldrich had three inches of reach on Collison, he’s not undersized.

At center Aldrich is undersized because he's not athletic either. Funny that Aldrich at 6'10 235 with no vert is not undersized but Ibaka at 6'10 235 and can jump out of the gym is undersized. Aldrich won't do any better against NBA centers than what we've already got. He won't help the team. Dexter Pittman will have a longer NBA career than Aldrich will.

@James

Aldrich had three inches of reach on Collison, he's not undersized.

The DON :The only people comparing aldrich to collison are ones who just look at him and say “oh look he is white, like collison, and like collison from kansas”

And the fact that he's undersized (like Collison) and not very athletic (like Collison).

Woj, just like almost every NBA "Insider", is busy throwing stuff against the wall before the draft to see what sticks.

Take everything with a huge grain of salt. There are undoubtedly 100,000 potential trades discussed before the draft, about 100 of which the press gets wind of.

Wouldn't be surprised if we move up, but it probably won't be the Pacers deal, and I doubt we're trying to get a guy like Hayward.

Haywood is not coming to OKC. Why whould Presti reveal his plans? Everybody knows he's looking for the big guys. Best case: Cousins or Favors. Next best choices: Monroe, Davis, Aldrich.

But this trade would be bad for OKC. Even if you stay with 18 and 21, you can go Alabi, Whiteside, Orton...there are going to be bigs availabe. The package mentioned (plus another useful player like Thabo) should be used for the 4th or 5th pick.

dream catcher :

Bob :
Wow Hayward? No way. Drafting Hayward just doesnt make sense.

which means he will be drafted lol.

lol i guess so.

Bob :
Wow Hayward? No way. Drafting Hayward just doesnt make sense.

which means he will be drafted lol.

Wow Hayward? No way. Drafting Hayward just doesnt make sense.

I'm a huge Hayward fan, but I agree with you justin. He doesn't really seem to have a spot on this team. Unless Presti believes he can backup the 2/3 and 4. tonight should be fun can't wait.

The only way Hayward makes sense is if Presti would then trade Harden or Green for something, even then I don't like it.

I'd be very disappointed and confused if we drafted Gordon Hayward at all. Of all the guys in the top 15 or so he seems like the least useful to us. He didn't even shoot 30% from college three point range this season.

Gavin :
WojYahooNBA No deal with Pacers, but Oklahoma City has been “relentless” trying to get into top 10. Why? Butler’s Gordon Hayward, league source says.

What he seemingly forgot to mention was the league executive was, in fact, Sam Presti... and he was using his sarcastic voice.

samickFanHouse Boston is dangling Kendrick Perkins and its No. 19 pick with the hopes of getting into the high lottery, according to a league source.

oohhh Perkins is available!!

Sammay, shiki, yeah it doesn't make sense to me either.

@Gavin
No reason to draft him......

@Gavin
whoa whoa whoa... Hayward? That doesn't make any sense at all. We already have a pretty good 3...

WojYahooNBA No deal with Pacers, but Oklahoma City has been "relentless" trying to get into top 10. Why? Butler's Gordon Hayward, league source says.

Just got home from the Tool show and WOW!! Thank God for a brilliant and resilient GM. Brighter days on the horizon, my brethren and sisteren. PS The days were already pretty bright ;)

PRESTI!PRESTI!PRESTI!PRESTI!PRESTI!PRESTI!
GO THUNDER!

Greg :@The
DON
That and their sole contributions are defending, rebounding and toughness with a limited offensive game.

If you're referring to Aldrich as having a "limited offensive game," be wary. Collison was one of the best offensive players in the nation in college, and put up a 30/20 in the NC game. So if you're making that comparison, you shouldn't be a huge Aldrich fan.

why we have to take back bad contract on this draft?? presti just clear all bad contact out of last 2-3 year...if presti going to cooking something .mix and macth all 3first round pick for number 5-7 to take greg monroe or cousin ..he is a magic man!!!!.............................................................................. for me keep all 3 pick for OKC and get #18 ORTON , #21 Kevin Seraphin , #26 PLIESS

Jeff Green isn't gonna be going anywhere. Durant is the franchise and Durant doesn't want Green going anywhere, so I wouldn't be expecting Green to be leaving anytime soon.

Presti is just frigging amazing. He has us positioned where we might actually have a shot at moving up for Monroe without losing any significant core assets. Wow.

If someone falls to pick 6 we could probably get it for a few first rounders and some contract absorption. Maybe we take on Vladimir Radmanovic or Dan Gadzuric for a year

I didn't much care for the proposed swap with Indy to get the 10th pick. I bet we could get the 11th from NO by swapping N. Collison, Weaver for Posey, Sangalia and Nawlin's first rounder. Would save them roughly 8 mill this year? (2mill salary difference in traded players, + 11th pick's 2010 salary times 2 for tax penalty?). From there we offer G-State (who some have looking at Udoh who might still be on the board at 11) the 11th, 18th and 21st picks, and we land Monroe. Stash "the Octopus" in Europe with the 26th pick, and we are done. We even get a great, if over-paid, 3rd string SF in Posey that we can afford to carry through 2012.

I hope collison to be Obi-Wan of Aldcich