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I think the Thunder should remember this game and make sure to foul at the end of games from now on. If only someone had slapped DWill's forearm (of course that would require that anyone was within 5 FEET OF HIM!).

@Dylan
Wait, seriously? You're disagreeing with justin on what justin believes and understands? And you're in a better position to judge him, because...

:::scratches head:::

@justin
disagreed.

@Dylan

I'm played plenty of basketball, and of course I understand the Thunder team / players aren't going to execute every play correctly. I don't expect that.

I like Justin's posts a lot, I just find it funny that he can go "well the refs won't get every call right," but can't understand that the thunder team/players aren't going to execute every play correctly.

it's the mindset of someone who's never played competitively.

@Bob
Dude I understand that pain, but if you've never seen such a bad call you haven't been watching basketball very long.

@justin

Thanks for the video. It isn't a blatant foul, but on replay the defender definitely misses the ball and hits Durant's hands (maybe arm too). If there had been any body contact I think they would have called it. Brutal way to lose. Unfortunately you see that foul missed in a lot of game situations, not just at the end. It's hard to tell without replay if the defender got the ball or not. Isn't the defender allowed to hit the hands of the shooter if he gets the ball first? Maybe that's what the ref thought happened.

@justin
Eh. Yeah, that was a foul, but not an absolutely horrific one. I'm fine with the refs not calling that.

I've never seen such a bad call. Fucking disgrace.

can someone explain how calling an obvious foul would have started a riot? i don't know nearly as much about basketball as i do football/baseball... but to me you're going to cause a LOT more trouble (like crashing the dailythunder site) by essentially deciding a game with a no-call on an obvious foul.

i guess the only player who would have been endangered by the call would be miles for deciding to slap durant deep with no time left, but with how old the average Jazz fan appears, i think he'd be able to handle himself.

Vega :@SnowflakeIf you can find video of it, I shall watch it. I can’t find any video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy5Bu3_K-Hk

@Snowflake
If you can find video of it, I shall watch it. I can't find any video.

I'm still laughing at the dude who called Justin a troll but only had 1 comment out of the over 400 comments on this one game thread.

clarkem :@justinI used to hate you. Now I kinda like you. Maybe it’s an acquired taste. Personally I think I’m starting to expect my team to play well where as I used to just be happy that they existed.

The Force is strong in this one...

@spike

I like in S. Florida and even the MIAMI FANS here were cognizant of the fact that they were handed the title.

The good news is that Kevin Durant is almost on that kind of status and we should be seeing a lot of those types of situations in the future.

justin :

KB :Justin quit saying he won’t get the call in today’s NBA. A foul is a foul! And if that shot were in the first quarter it’s definitely called. The refs lost their nuts and choked when it counted. Why the heck would anyone not call that a foul? It’s a foul. It will be called. Those numb nuts just missed it tonight.

Hey I agree with you it should be a foul but it’s not going to be. NBA reffing is messed up. They weren’t about to start a riot in Utah.
The one thing I really don’t understand is that if they have instant replay how come that type of thing can’t be reviewed if it’s a game deciding play? That’s what I don’t get.

Too subjective. What constitutes a game deciding play? We thought that the Carlos Boozer offensive rebound of that missed free throw decided the game, who's to say we don't demand a review that he pushed off there?

"I haven't seen the play, but..."
"I haven't read the book, but..."
"I haven't seen the film, but..."
Then don't comment. There is nothing more intellectually dishonest than trying to comment on something about which you have no knowledge. Just because something is "the way things are" doesn't mean it is ok. If people never got upset about a situation because "it is merely the way things are," we would all be in a lot of trouble, extending much further than a basketball game.

I am very excited about how Durant made those shots in a playoff atmosphere, though. It'll be interesting to see how he performs in the playoffs, regardless of who we play. I don't think I've seen him hot like that in as big a game before.

justin :

KB :Justin quit saying he won’t get the call in today’s NBA. A foul is a foul! And if that shot were in the first quarter it’s definitely called. The refs lost their nuts and choked when it counted. Why the heck would anyone not call that a foul? It’s a foul. It will be called. Those numb nuts just missed it tonight.

Hey I agree with you it should be a foul but it’s not going to be. NBA reffing is messed up. They weren’t about to start a riot in Utah.
The one thing I really don’t understand is that if they have instant replay how come that type of thing can’t be reviewed if it’s a game deciding play? That’s what I don’t get.

they arent going to review anything that is subjective IMO . . .

KB :Justin quit saying he won’t get the call in today’s NBA. A foul is a foul! And if that shot were in the first quarter it’s definitely called. The refs lost their nuts and choked when it counted. Why the heck would anyone not call that a foul? It’s a foul. It will be called. Those numb nuts just missed it tonight.

Hey I agree with you it should be a foul but it's not going to be. NBA reffing is messed up. They weren't about to start a riot in Utah.

The one thing I really don't understand is that if they have instant replay how come that type of thing can't be reviewed if it's a game deciding play? That's what I don't get.

@justin
I used to hate you. Now I kinda like you. Maybe it's an acquired taste. Personally I think I'm starting to expect my team to play well where as I used to just be happy that they existed.

justin :

spike :

justin :Whatever happens I take back what I said before you can’t get on these guys or anyone for this game. It’s amazing.

Haha, that lasted all of 5 minutes.

Yeah, I just can’t help myself.

Nah, I'm in the same boat. It's hard not to get really freaking frustrated at our terrible offensive execution in pressure situations. Also hard not to get frustrated that so many of our points are coming on mid-range jumpers, that we can seem to close out on a 3-point shooter to save our lives.

But then you remember we forced over time after being down 13 with about 3 minutes left and almost gave the Jazz announcers a heart attack and were a couple breaks away from sweeping the 2nd best team in the Western Conference.

Because this is the NBA, you have to brace yourself against terrible officiating. I still haven't fully recovered from the Wade debacle in 2005 and I'm not even a Mavs fan. I'm sure there's going to be one game in the post season where we will lose and it will feel 100% like the officiating swung the game. Look at that Lakers/Spurs finale where Fisher hammered Barry and the league actually apologized after the fact!

So get it out of the way right now: The Thunder will probably not win the championship, and the officials will screw them out of at least one postseason game.

I think we should be happy about tonight's game. We took part in an instant classic, Durant showed once again he's got the stones to lead a team to a championship some day, Brooks got another reminder about how terribly he sucks at drawing up end-of-game plays, so maybe he'll get better at it, this is a good experience in the long run, even if it's bitter right now.

@justin
I dont know if Ive ever seen a positive post out of you, and Ive been following this site daily for over a year. Its gotten to the point where I dont even read the comments section anymore because I dont want to read your crap. If you want to analyze everything they do wrong, go get a job on espn or something. I dont know how you can even enjoy watching this team, because youre busy criticizing every little thing they do wrong. THEYRE 21-23 years old, theyre going to make some mistakes, get over it

@555
I don't think you can review judgement calls (fouls).

@Bob

Most of you guys got the good stuff covered. I don't really like to be a 'me too!' kind of guy. I hope I point out stuff that has been missed by some or maybe the different view point sometimes. I'm not really negative about the team. It seems like whenever I make a oositive point (like about Russ having one of his most efficient games) it gets ignored. :)

justin :

Durantula :@justinYou have to expect to take some flack with your negativity. Go back and look at your last 15 posts. As the game was winding down your negativity was in full effect. Everyone gets tired of it.

Yet, strangely, I’m not the one using expletives and calling others ‘trolls’. I have a huge problem with how we played this game for most of it. Kevin Durant is an amazing player and he single handedly made this a game, but it really shouldn’t have been one.
I mean, honestly, I wasn’t the only one saying our defense was bad. I wasn’t the only one irritated by Westbrook turning the ball over so many times. There were lots of things not to like in this game. There were a lot of things to like in this game. There are places you can go if you just want to hear what there is to like.

You are one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board for sure, but when a huge game is online the line and you are constantly posting negative comments about our team, people are going to get tired of it. I know it's not true, but sometimes it feels like you are rooting against the Thunder (almost so you can point out the teams flaws and say I told you so")and that's what people get irked about. You are a good poster with valuable commentary that has a poor sense of timing. That's it.

OMFG THEY GAVE CJ MILES A BLOCK ON THE LAST PLAY!!!

Justin quit saying he won't get the call in today's NBA. A foul is a foul! And if that shot were in the first quarter it's definitely called. The refs lost their nuts and choked when it counted. Why the heck would anyone not call that a foul? It's a foul. It will be called. Those numb nuts just missed it tonight.

It's a bad call, and I couldn't believe that they didn't even bother to review it right there. For some reason, I thought the refs reviewed in other games before?

@Vega

Intense frustration, I'd say. I honestly wanted to throw something at the TV on the last play.

@justin

Nobody cares if you complain about some plays Brooks calls or when somebody isnt doing his job right... but you complain about everything. You're so negative to the team that i think you hate everyone of the thunder except DJ White. We like to discuss and criticizing plays but you complain about every wrong thing you notice.

@Vega
No offense, but if you haven't seen the play you really shouldn't be commenting. I know the refs swallow their whistles but there's a point where they do need to call a foul. This was definitely one of those times

What happened to the nice, civilized Daily Thunder of last year? All of this winning seems to have gotten to the fanbase.

Vega :
Didn’t see the play itself, but if it was at the buzzer, there was no way a foul would be called unless it was a major foul. Refs swallow their whistles in the last seconds, and I personally like it.

I sent the last second video to Royce... you'll see it was a pretty serious contact foul.

As I said, I haven't seen the play, but it is standard operating procedure for refs to swallow their whistles at the end of games. No one should be surprised or angry. It is merely the way things are.

I still think the Thunder could take them in 7. Westbrook/Sefolosha needs to buckle down on Williams tho

spike :

justin :Whatever happens I take back what I said before you can’t get on these guys or anyone for this game. It’s amazing.

Haha, that lasted all of 5 minutes.

Yeah, I just can't help myself. ;)

Durantula :@justinYou have to expect to take some flack with your negativity. Go back and look at your last 15 posts. As the game was winding down your negativity was in full effect. Everyone gets tired of it.

Yet, strangely, I'm not the one using expletives and calling others 'trolls'. I have a huge problem with how we played this game for most of it. Kevin Durant is an amazing player and he single handedly made this a game, but it really shouldn't have been one.

I mean, honestly, I wasn't the only one saying our defense was bad. I wasn't the only one irritated by Westbrook turning the ball over so many times. There were lots of things not to like in this game. There were a lot of things to like in this game. There are places you can go if you just want to hear what there is to like.

justin :
Whatever happens I take back what I said before you can’t get on these guys or anyone for this game. It’s amazing.

Haha, that lasted all of 5 minutes.

@Vega
When a shooter gets his shooting arm slapped you have to call a foul. Durant only air balled because his arm was slapped. The refs failed epically on this one. No excuses for their pathetic game.

@The Don

He should have gotten the call, but he's not going to get it. There's a difference. I disagree with how the NBA is, and how the reffing can decide games like that. But I also know that it's the reality of the situation. Durant should get that call, but he won't in today's NBA.

@Greg

yeah, westbrook and durant just got interviewed on thunder live. neither would comment.

after what just happened to phil jackson, though, i don't blame them. it's a shame refs are held equally accountable for completely blowing an important game.

We have absolutely no answer for Williams.. If we play them in the playoffs he may average 35 a game..

I just hope that we have the energy to go toe-to-toe with the Nuggets tomorrow. It will be a tough turn around.

@Dylan
Yeah, that's a good silver lining to look at. I just crunched the numbers myself, and it's Durant with 29.91, and LeBron with 29.71, so that's at least something. And if KD comes out tomorrow full of righteous vengeance and torches the Nuggets, he might be able to really lock down hard on that title, to the point where LeBron has no realistic chance at getting it back in the next couple games.

@Bob

I'd like to expect that at some point our gameplanning to end games will be on the level of a team like the Jazz, who seemed to get plenty of wide open looks to end the game. We had a couple good plays.. the Harden three was nice. But overall, we seem to get outclassed down the stretch against most teams who run better sets than we do. Hopefully it's something that improves. There were some good signs in this game.

Didn't see the play itself, but if it was at the buzzer, there was no way a foul would be called unless it was a major foul. Refs swallow their whistles in the last seconds, and I personally like it.

@Steve H

Frustration (which we're ALL feeling) isn't an excuse to go off like that. He's right, too; while this game was ultimately decided on the blown, HORRIBLE call, we truly lost over the course of the entire game, especially the first and third quarter.

This will be a strong lesson for the Thunder. Hopefully they can channel tonight's frustration to the game against Denver. KD looked insanely pissed off at the end, I've never seen him like that.

@justin
You have to expect to take some flack with your negativity. Go back and look at your last 15 posts. As the game was winding down your negativity was in full effect. Everyone gets tired of it.

Ugh. Hell of a game. The missed call is going to get plenty of publicity after Garnett whining about Durant last week.

I did crack a grin when I couldn't get on the site post-game though. All the fans crashing the server to see the reactions.