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Flush it down – Denver destroys the Thunder 119-90

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I had about 30 ideas for what to name this recap from “Thank you, sir, may I have another?” to “The Missing Piece: Exhibit A” all the way to “Fumigating the Pepsi Center” and “Wait, is this March 2010 or 2009?”

You get the picture.

This was in no way a pretty or enjoyable game and to be honest, I am now 0-2 in 2010 on recaps so if you all want to sign a petition to ban me from doing recaps of games where the Thunder are not heavy favorites, I understand.  In fact, you could very easily argue that this was two games wrapped into one so I might even be 0-3. The first game took place from the tip-off to about midway through the third quarter and the second one was the glorified scrimmage from the third quarter until the merciful horn that ended the game.

So let me recap both games for you. In the first five minutes of the game I counted 3 assists that Westbrook should have received after pretty tremendous passes into the post that resulted in one blown layup after another. It was at this point that the theme of the evening first winked at me. Immediately, the Nuggets ran down the court, Nene got tremendous position in the post and just literally overpowered Krstic and whoever else the Thunder tried to throw at him for an easy dunk. Rinse and repeat. About 25 more times. That was pretty much the way that first game within the game went. The Denver Nuggets absolutely OBLITERATED the Thunder in the post.

In fact, an all caps obliterated might still not be emphatic enough. They OBLITESTROYMOLISHED the Thunder down low to the tune of FIFTY points in the paint. Yes, that’s right, a five followed by a zero.

For everyone who says “I’m not so sure the Thunder need a post presence” or “the Thunder aren’t really missing a big man down low” I’m going to somehow find you, kindly thank you for reading the DT and then proceed to sit you down in front of a giant screen and run this game continuously over and over and over again until you scream out, “I understand! I un-der-stand!” Why? Because this game pretty much encapsulated every single reason why that missing piece down low is literally The Missing Piece.

The Thunder struggled from the floor as their jumpshots weren’t falling, shooting an atrocious 32.5% from the field. Enter the Missing Piece, who can get higher percentage shots down low and create easy buckets. Durant and Westbrook found themselves doubled and sometimes even tripled as the offense goes stagnant without any open shots. Enter the Missing Piece, who upon receiving the ball down low either explodes for an easy finish at the rim or when he immediately commands a double team from his deep post position, bam! he passes to a now wide open Durant for an easy 15 footer (Nene and Melo did this for about, oh, the entire first half).

None of the Thunder starters played particularly well as it was definitely one of those games. The vaunted Thunder defense gave up 119 points, 50 points in the paint and 30 assists. You read that correctly, 30 assists. When Anthony Carter racks up 12 assists on your team, there’s really nothing more to say than “Whew, you guys better flush that one down fast.” When a game like this happens you welcome the plane trip out of Denver and can only hope that the team takes out this game’s frustration on the Clippers Friday night.

The second game within the game was, how do you say, proof about why those players only see extended time when someone is up by 40. Horrible execution, passes sailing out of bounds, air ball upon air ball with the regulars who were somehow forced to stay in the game pretty much taking over and, thankfully, reducing a 40 point deficit to 29 at the end. That being said, not all was lost with the Thunder down 40 and I’d like to dedicate the bullets below to my “This is what happens when the Thunder get down by 40″ section.

  • Hey, it’s Johan Petro! He’s actually in the game. You know how Jeff Foxworthy made an entire career with, “If you blah-blah-blah, you might be a redneck,” well all I could think of was, “If your crowd is chanting for Renaldo Balkman to bomb three’s and Johan Petro picks up 3 fouls in what felt like 30 seconds (and is even in the game), then somebody might be down by 40.”
  • Brian Davis and Grant Long waxed poetically about the finer points of horse racing and whether or not a horse that has de-jockeyed itself can legally finish a race. Yes, this was an actual three minute discussion ON AIR as the game wound down in the fourth, but you know what, it was the most entertained I was for the entire second half so go on Brian Davis, wow me with your tales of jockeyless horses frantically galloping across the Remington Park plains.
  • Okay, so we’re all familiar with Royce’s absolute hatred of the Cox commercial where the guy installs the cable box and the little mutant Digi creatures take off their shoe booty and steal the little boy’s action figure and parachute it off of the roof much to the boy’s delight. Well by about the fifth viewing of the commercial by the fourth quarter, I couldn’t keep my mind from imagining the strings snapping on the parachuting toy and the action figure plummeting down to the concrete patio, with the arms and legs snapping off on the violent impact as the little boy screams in sheer horror and runs away.
  • What? Why are you looking at the screen like that? They were down by 40, what else was I going to ponder about at the fifteen hundredth “You’re a friend” viewing?
  • If James Harden suddenly starts looking to pass the ball again while he’s driving to the hoop instead of having on his ”I’m only going to shoot on this drive no matter what” blinders while he slashes to the rim, then apparently somebody might be down by 40.
  • Did the refs know how excruciating the fourth quarter of this game was and just got a kick out of elongating the torture that was this debacle? Weren’t there like three hundred whistles on ticky-tack fouls in the last 10 minutes? Have some mercy, refs.
  • Hey, it’s Etan Thomas! Hey-oh, Oh No. So that’s why Serge has gobbled up all his minutes.

Oh, and one more thing, this only counts as one game. It’s done and over. As soon as I finish this recap I’m going to take a shower because I somehow feel infected by the stink that was this game and I will return to the reality that every NBA team lays one enormous egg during an 82 game season and the Thunder still sit in sixth place in the West and now know exactly how it feels to be embarrassed by a team who’s been to the playoffs and expects to compete for a championship.

Bring on the Clips.

…though I’ll probably let Royce recap that one.

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Weaver-Sefolosha was each guy's best pair last season though that was mostly SG-SF I'd imagine and PG-SG might be different.

Westbrook[Weaver pairing was among the worst performing on team +/- for both guys last season (and for Russ personally) but I'd guess it could work better this season or next. Still want to see Weaver-Harden too.

Crow :Do you recall enough about Weaver on NBA PG defense?Wonder how Anderson did in practice.

Weaver was probably a little better than Thabo on point guards . . .

Josh :Why did Brooks not let thabo guard Melo? I bet with thabo guarding melo he would have not made that many points as he did. Westbrook has to guard the PG and thabo has to guard the best scorer on their team.

If Thabo guards Melo then Billups runs wild against Westbrook - you are right , Westbrook has to get better . . .

Why did Brooks not let thabo guard Melo? I bet with thabo guarding melo he would have not made that many points as he did. Westbrook has to guard the PG and thabo has to guard the best scorer on their team.

Do you recall enough about Weaver on NBA PG defense?
Wonder how Anderson did in practice.

Defensive Notes

Team total (+1) - lowest of the SEASON (note - I only "scored" the first three quarter due to time restrictions - the game was over at that point anyway)

Russell Westbrook (+4)
Serge Ibaka (+4)
James Harden (+3)
Etan Thomas (zero)
Thabo Sefolosha (zero)
Eric Maynor (zero)
Nenad Krstic (-1)
Kevin Durant (-1)
Nick Collison (-2)
Jeff Green (-3)
Antonio Anderson (-3)

Notes

***We have a problem defending at the point. If you have noticed, Thabo has started on the point guards in the last several games (Billups, Evans,Jack, Parker). Thabo is an elite defender at the TWO. He's a good defender at the point, but even guys without top speed (like Billups) get by him more than what you expect when you have great point guard defense. I know why Brooks did it - Westbrook was struggling badly at the point and he does better off man (especially with steals) but it is hurting us that Westbrook can't cover the quick guys. Not only that, we get odd matchups on the wing (Demar Derozan ran circles around Durant on Sunday). When teams see what Brooks is doing, they will start posting up Westbrook with 6-6 and 6-7 guys. We will double, and we will give up wide open looks. This problem will get worse at teams keep scouting our scheme.

*** Durant looks BAD when he has to play the four on defense - well, at least he did last night. Durant is not used to blocking out, and you cant leave Kmart open or he will kill you on the boards. Even when Durant tries to block out, his skinny frame is easily pushed aside by powerful guys inside.

*** Krstic looked slower (yes he's slow, but slower than usual) on Nene - and Nene abused him in the post and in transition.

*** Etan got in after fifteen years on the pine and responded by not blocking out on the first possession! Nice job.

*** Green tried, but Carmelo is just Carmelo.

@Joe
I'm with you, Joe. But I kind of discount the Toronto game defense since a certain player was absent. I'm pretty sure he would have put a little bit of pressure on the post defense of the Thunder. :)

@J.G.

Nice job J.G.

I don't think you take a game like this and run with conclusions. If you see a trend ok, but one game, not so much. The defense was stellar in the Toronto game. The offense was pretty good too. Move on, next game.

@Crow

I hope they do slow down. That's the only way we'll stay in games.

If you are playing well, less reason to be concerned about a slight pace change any direction. But in the playoffs I'd say most teams have a plan on pace. Mostly things slow down though.

Another post, because I found something else to say.

Looks like February had by far the highest Thunder scoring and margin. Looks like fastest pace as well as best shooting.

But is faster what they want to go back to? Didn't look good last season at that pace.

Facing teams for the second or higher time is tougher in part because it is or will eventually be 2:1 western teams. But even though they do less well here, they still have the strong February record.

Looking at the toughest split out there, just western conference teams in the playoffs in repeat match-ups- relevant for actually playing in the playoffs- the Thunder are 4-7. They were 3-3 the first time round with them.

where did the saturday morning cartoon go?

Last year I remember sitting down and watching every minute of that 3-29 start. I was just so happy to have the Thunder around. This year I got so disgusted in the third quarter that I turned it off. Truth be told I'm shocked to find out we scored 90. As a fan I'm sure that violates some rule but I just couldn't do it. That third quarter however was like watching 'All About Steve' with my wife. I like Sandra Bullock but in that film she is tragicly unfunny/creepy and you watch her go down in flames. You wonder why she is doing this, and why no director or producer put a stop to it. At the end of the day though its only one bad film, and she followed it up with an Oscar nom in 'The Blind Side' so.... watch out Clippers!

@Bryan

I think you're on to something with the pace. To add to that thought, the Thunder have played the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th fastest paced teams starting with the suns.

3rd : Timberwolves
4th : Suns
5th : Nuggets
6th : Kings

And the Raptors were 11th. The Spurs is the only other team in that stretch outside the top 10 and they are 24th. Defense can look poor when the pace is that fast.

But agreed that the defensive effort has really taken a fall lately. The pace just exaggerates the problem.

they = the

really read them before I post them

And I don't mean to go all Crow & Justin, posting multiple comments in a row.... but I'm glad the Thunder got STOMPED in this one because I know that Brooks and Cheeks will use it to light a fire under their collective @sses!

You know damn well that Kevin is not going to take this well. I feel sorry for the Clippers!!!!

....I would add that the defensive intensity has also been falling off a bit. Teams are scoring more points on the Thunder (although I think this may have something to do with pace because Westbrook has been pushing the ball so hard in transition) and it has seemed to me that they were getting a bit too big for their britches, thinking the can just turn it on whenever they want.......like they're they Lakers.

I don't know if anyone else felt this coming, but I did. No really.

I know that the numbers looked good in the win over the Kings, but if you look at the way the Thunder played down the stretch in that one, missing easy layups and open buckets and playing poorly on defense, it was you really got the sense that it sapped their energy and confidence a bit.... you could REALLY see it Durant's face..... I sit close, very close.

Anyway, I think they carried that fourth quarter funk with them into the locker room and onto to the plane and all the way to the Pepsi Center...

hopefully this wakes up our defense, which has been bad the last week or so. We cant sleep on the clippers or kings, they can both beat us, and we need to beat them to have an easy road to the playoffs.

@spike
Ha, looks like we had the same thought at the same time

@spike
I don't read the game threads anymore, to be honest. Somewhere around late November or early December was when the tone and commentary of the game threads changed to the point that it was not my scene, but surely the plethora of jokes in the recap and the concluding paragraph showed that despite the pain of the moment, most of us have a pretty healthy perspective on where the Thunder are at right now, even when their flaws are revealed in such an unpleasant way.

And like we've all said, every team lays a stinker. It's the trends that concern you come playoff time and, like it or not, this team has raised everyone's expectations and we've been spoiled lately because they haven't been demolished like that recently.

First let me say that the thunder would have lost this game anyway even with rest. They are very young and should be ready. The thunder looked sluggish getting back on D the whole night and were missing easy shots.
The Nuggets can count on 12-15 easy wins every year because the NBA keeps scheduling home games on the 2nd half of back to backs for them. Its not like they don't have an advantage of thin air or anything to begin with.

Denver's been running teams out of the gym at home on second nights of back to backs for the visiting team all year.

Based on some of the comments last night on the game thread, I know some people were a little hysterical over the game, but even the Lakers lost by 30 at Denver under similar circumstances. So did Dallas. And Denver just lost by 26 to the Suns on Monday night, so does that mean they're fundamentally flaws? The Lakers got blown out twice by the Rockets in one 7 game series last year and they managed to win a title.

Aside from that, The Thunder are not an elite team yet. I don't understand why we have to rehash that with tons of negativity every time something like this happens instead of just calmly recognizing that we're not there yet.

@osu student
Yeah, last night was a rough one in the Marking household.

@props
See, but I think an offensive presence inside is just as needed as well. Since the Thunder is primarily a jumpshooting team and is around the middle of the pack in FG% in the NBA (which is actually pretty incredible all things considered), imagine how efficient their offense and scoring could be with an easy bucket getter in the paint?

Anytime Oklahoma State and the Thunder play on the road on a Wednesday night, things never go very well. Last Wednesday the Thunder lost a tough one to San Antonio and OSU lost to Texas, This Wednesday OSU got destroyed by Texas A&M and the Thunder got harassed by the Denver Thuglets. Thank God OSU only has one more game and its on Saturday.

@J.G.

right. we need a defensive presence inside. without one, we lose out on a lot of defensive rebounds, and we can't stop inside scoring threats.

alas, this kind of shooting night is rare. so, my belief is that with a better shooting night, a few more calls, and a dose of luck, we'd be in this game in the fourth. probably still lose, but at least not getting drilled.

@crick
So, using your notion that one game does not a story tell (which is true to an extent) what about the other games that the Thunder has had against the NBA's Top 5-6 teams that have two or three legitimate post options at center? How's their record against them? Or how about the rate at which the Thunder has given up offensive rebounds all year?

Sure this was one game and I'll be happy when it is in the rear view mirror, but that does not change the fact that this game highlighted EVERYTHING that the Thunder struggle with in the post. Yes, every team has a stinker like this in them but guess what, the Thunder have always been very poor at snagging defensive rebounds and defending post players one-on-one. The strength of the Thunder's defense is the team defense, but when a team has three or four potent scoring options in addition to a true, low post offensive threat, the Thunder can't simply double down to help out in the post because it leaves the other scoring options open.

Don't count the Denver loss last night as a warning flare despite the glaring evidence for it. I'm fine with that. But go and check out anytime the Thunder played the Lakers, check out the Celtics game, check out the show Dejuan Blair put on in OKC, etc, etc.

When the Thunder's jumpshots aren't falling, they have no inside post presence to keep them in a game or get them easy buckets and come playoff time, guess what happens, the game slows down, there's less fast breaking and the post players reveal why they make so much money. And while we all just want to forget this game ever happened, I think we'd be fooling ourselves if we said that Denver's post game had absolutely nothing to do with the blowout.

Thank goodness this was on KSBI...and I don't get KSBI...this would have really ruined my night.

HAHA...if someone wishes B(rest of first name here) Mullens would have got a lot of PT....you might be down by 40.

I'll probably be staying away from Basketbawful today.

Tough game to watch. I felt bad for the guys. This game was set-up for them to fail though, after they played so many minutes last night. We all kind of feared it, and look. They'll win friday night though.

There goes the bandwagon...

Oops meant to say we beat them very easily ending their 9 game winning streak the last time we played them.

I have to say I'm not super surprised by this one. Denver had lost two in a row coming in, we beat them very easily ending their 9 game winning streak coming in, and all the talk of Durant being a top 2/3 player ahead of Melo. All I posted before the game was that Melo was going to go off (in a couple of threads). This doesn't surprise me though. We need to refocus on our d and hopefully this will magnify that need to the team.

There were clear signs in the last few games that the Thunder defense was not anymore as tight and effective as before the ESPN All Star Game. Probably the relatively easy schedule and the amazing month of Westbrook allowed some alarming numbers to go overlooked. When you concede over 100 points to teams like New York, Minnesota, Sacramento and you lose a match the way we did against Phoenix it's clear something isn't exactly working the right way. Against stronger teams the Thunder can't go to a shooting war, the team is simply asking to get slaughtered by doing that.

This game was painful to watch for me, I considered asking for mercy, but do you know what this game reminded me of? It reminded me of MJ's HOF speech, all his set backs and the motivations he took from it. It reminded me how Dwight Howard forced Jameer nelson to watch Kobe celebrate when the Lakers won the championship last season. It reminded me we are not there yet. It reminded me the kind of effort and energy, you need in April and May. It reminded me that even if we play Thunder basketball, that even if we execute flawlessly, there are better teams. It reminded me we were 23-59 last season. It reminded me how far we have came, but more importantly it reminded me how far we still have to go!!!!!

@J.G.
I'm right there with you on the Cox Digis, or whatever they're called. I supposedly won a Wimgo t-shirt last night for suggesting the Rocky Mountain Low headline on NewsOK, but I said no way. I've a feeling the Digis are agents of Wimgo and have drugged the boy.

With Wimgo, you may think you're headed to the Kolache Festival, then find yourself surrounded by black helicopters.

The last time I recall this team having a bizzare off night like this was last year against Minnesota. Right in the dead of winter -- I think it was early or mid January. We played an early evening game and just stunk from beginning to end. Everyone was slow and off their game. Minni blew us out by about 40 points (something like 120-80).

It was just bizzare. Up to that game, the team had been coming alive and really playing better and winning games. The Thunder and the T-wolves were about on equal terms at that point in time. Well, Minnesota was probably a little bit better than us, but not THAT MUCH better.

What the hey. We should shook it off and continued playing better and starting racking up more wins.

I never did figure out what went wrong that night. It's just one of those damned things.

I disagree, however, with the recap arguing that this game proves we need a big man to guard the paint -- the Missing Piece. Oh, I agree would could use one, it's just that this game doesn't prove it -- in fact, it doesn't really prove jack sh*t about anything.

Well, all it proved is that on March 3, 2010, the OKC Thunder basically could not play NBA level basketball -- at all. Put whoever you want in as that vaunted Missing Piece and that dude would have sucked rocks tonight along with the rest of the team. It was that kind of a night.

Let's not use bizzare, atypical stinker games like this to try to prove 'Our Pet Theory' about the team. Just flush it down and move on.

Anyone else really want Andris Biedrins after watching this game?

No problem. A bad loss here and there is okay, especially to a very good team. Now, if we had lost to the Nets by twenty-nine, there would be cause for concern, but this is an acceptable defeat.

I didn't look closer at home n away.
Somebody else can do it more exact and detailed if they want.

I think they are about 17-14 facing teams for the second or higher time. So that would be about 19-9 the first time. I might be a bit off but there is still a general trend there.

flush it down -- that's a good phrase, because that's all you can really do

it sucked, it's over, let's move on

On the plus side, he put up decent numbers last night in Austin.

It's a shame we sent Lord Mullens to the 66ers, I would've loved to get a healthy dose of the Big White Beast in the closing minutes...er 15 minutes of this one.

Lowest raw FG% of the season; but on eFG%. factoring in 3 pointers, it probably ends up second lowest on that.

Most turnovers this season...
Durant's 20+ pts streak ends...
Coaches have a tape that they should be able to teach off of..

I like the "You might be down 40" riff. I think I'll put that in my pocket and save it for a future ugly recap.

LOL...this is such an interesting turn of events, especially considering the conversation Royce and I had just hours ago.

I thought that the player that would've made the most sense for the Thunder to add this season (since last year) would be Marcus Camby, a tall & (semi-)strong center with a great defensive presence. Hell, someone like Brendan Haywood would've been a great add as well.

At the end of the day, the Thunder need some grit and brute strength, God bless Nick Collison and Nenad Krstic, but them boys are soft like charmin and we've got to at least upgrade to double-ply.

-Ed.

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