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Monday Bolts – 2.1.10

Kevin Durant’s January numbers: 32.1 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.2 apg, 52 percent from the field, 53 percent from 3 (!), 90 percent from the line. So if the Bird Line is 50-40-90, Durant was 50-50-90 for January. Forget a 180 shooter, KD was a 195. Reader Dylan also tossed out, KD scored 481 points on 295 shots. That’s 1.63 points a shot. If LeBron’s thing is “Witness,” we need a Nike thing for KD. Watcher? Beholder? Testifier? Attestant? Someone rule on this.

KD sits down with Dean Blevins. KD says he’s not surprised one bit by the Thunder’s solid record. Also, Durant says while a scoring title would be nice and awards would be cool, he ultimately wants to be known as a champion. Atta boy. (And he reiterates AGAIN that he wants to be in Oklahoma City.)

Durant is now second behind Carmelo Anthony for the scoring lead at 29.6 ppg, one tenth of a point off the top.

Mark Travis of But The Game Is On has a set of power rankins with OKC 14: “The Thunder hit a rough patch of late, dropping three straight to the Grizzlies, the Cavaliers and the Bulls. Still, they have an excellent young group, have been pretty healthy all year and Kevin Durant is just amazing. Durant averaged 31 points on 50% shooting from the field and 52% shooting from three, eight rebounds, a block and a steal in the month of January. Russell Wesbtrook also had a pretty good month, putting up 15 points, eight assists and five boards a game and got his field goal % on the year back up above 40%. The Thunder have an 11-4 record when Russ gets eight or more assists. I’m expecting more of the same from Durant and this club as a whole.”

Simmons talks Thunder at the 24-minute mark. I love hearing him gush about KD. It makes me warm inside.

Behind the box score: “The Thunder? They did what they were supposed to do. Kevin Durant managed 45 points on 21 shots, which has to be some sort of record, but it didn’t seem out of place. He just filled it up. Russell Westbrook (28 points) was continually afforded looks in the paint, and even Thabo Sefolosha had his way at times.”

Darnell Mayberry looks at OKC’s trade situation: “If Presti does anything, a smaller deal could be consummated. It’s not out of the question that Presti looks to pry away an additional future first-round draft pick to continue stockpiling assets.”

Durant, after last night’s game: “Yes, this was one of my better games, but I’m greedy,” said Durant, who was 16-for-21. “I like to make every shot, but I know it can’t go that way.”

Shaun Powell of NBA.com: ”Oklahoma City will have a few dollars to throw around this summer. How about the Thunder making a run at Amar’e Stoudemire? Or perhaps Chris Bosh, bringing him closer to home in Dallas? That would satisfy their scoring problems in the post. Then if they package Jeff Green with Nick Collison (expiring contract next season), they might reel in another big name. Scary thought.”

Durant third in NBA.com’s Race to the MVP.

Desmond Mason attended last night’s game and said he may be retiring: “Maybe. I haven’t made a final decision, yet, but I’m kind of leaning,” Mason said. “I’m enjoying my family. I keep myself busy. I’m working on some (projects).”

Scott Brooks on Durant’s All-Star nod: “It’s great…it’s great,” Brooks says emphatically. “I’m proud of who Kevin is…he’s a tremendous, tremendous kid, very coachable, very talented. And he works hard. He’s into our team. Those are characteristics that…it’s hard, not that young guys don’t have it, but when you’re trying to find your way in the league, you kind of put those on the back burner. Kevin is upfront with them. He likes our guys. He wants our team to continue to feel it and get better.”

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Loved hearing that Durant wants to stay here as long as possible! I see us definitely making the playoffs next and in 2 years, a possible deep playoff push?

@Gavin
It's not either/or. Presti should be trying to do both.

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
There is 4th option. Doing salary dump trade such as Harpring trade. And Presti is a master of it.

@Chris Mac.

The money is not stocked up. It's not even money. It's space. Space is what we have stocked up. That space goes away if we don't fill it with a player.

If we don't use the space, the space goes away, and it doesn't help us at all.

Presti is not the kind of GM who would use that space on a bad contract.

I'm not so sure we should go out and spend all our stocked up money to bring in a big name... I mean look at Toronto. They spent all their money trying to bring in a big name to potentially lure bosh to stay and Hedo has had a down year.

@dork
Yeah it wont happen this year or next but if we dont spend now we wont have any cap room later to use, so its get a FA now to help in the future, and it doesnt have to be a max contract player or even a starter, but unless we are banking on ibaka and mullens to be great there is less risk in getting a known decent player.

Some mix of our projects will be gone in the next few years, ibaka, mullens, white, weaver, and hardin over in tulsa will be wasted picks, and be replaced with cheap FAs or new draft picks.

ollie,thomas,collison,krstic are all potentially gone within 2 years. If we can get a replacement for any of their roles for cheaper/younger out of free agency its worth it. Then we can trade them.

Lets say we sign david lee, collison is then expendable as Lee starts and green and ibaka are backups at PF.

KD was named the Western Conference Player of the Week again! http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=308593

Null Option: Sign no one, lose it. You are not helped, or hurt.

Sorry, I should have proof-read that a bit better before posting.

dork :
my theory on the Cap is just because you have cap room doesn’t mean you have to spend it… thats how big $ happens with bad players…

Yes, it's possible to sign a bad player to a big contract. However, signing a free agent is much less error prone than drafting. There are lots of Free Agent deals done every year. We hear about the bad ones all the time, because it's the worst possible thing a team can do to themselves. But a competent GM doesn't have this trouble. Now, a player can get hurt, but that can happen to anyone, so that doesn't count.

But a FA has years of performance in the league and is a known quantity. You're not taking the guy on potential, you're taking him on production and fit. We all thought KD would be a great player when we drafted him 2nd, but he was still an unproven commodity. A FA is not. If I were you, I would stop worrying about giving our money away to a bad player. Signing free agents is a better bet than drafting.

We only have 3 possible scenarios with our cap space.
Good Option: Sign a good player with it. Maybe trade him later.
Null Option: Sign no one, lose it. You are helped, or hurt.
Bad Option: Sign a bad player with it. Can't trade him.

There is only one good option. The other options do not help you in any way. But it's nothing to be afraid of. If you have a GM who does his job well, then there is only one way to go.

@4razr
I think someone is getting ahead of themselves :)

People often forget that this year was supposed to be the last year in a rebuilding year where we might end up in the playoffs race conversation. Not championship converstaion. Granted that is where we ALL want to be but it won't happen this year or next...

my theory on the Cap is just because you have cap room doesn't mean you have to spend it... thats how big $ happens with bad players...

It's a t-shirt: Who needs a Witness when you've got the Proof?

@DizzyDai
Yes it was a smart move.
Cap space is use it or lose it.
Why are there only a handful of teams with lots of cap space this summer? Why are teams spending years maneuvering to get into position to sign a free agent? Because it's one, sometimes one of the best, ways to get better, and often better in a hurry. If you don't take this opportunity now, it will be years before it comes again. If the NBA was a fantasy league and money was no object, you'd definitely spend the money. It's like buying a lottery ticket, but with much better odds. I trust Presti to choose wisely.
Not spending it would send the message the OKC is willing to accept mediocrity, or at least is willing to sacrifice one of the avenues for improvement. In my opinion, a team that wants to win a championship should exploit every available option for getting better. I realize that's not how San Antonio did it, but how lucky were they to land Robinson & Duncan? The won the draft lottery not once but twice! (and were lucky enough to pick great players).
When is the next time this team is likely to win the lottery? Certainly not with their own pick. I'm sure our other picks are draft protected.
Signing a free agent may be a gamble, but so are rookies. There's something to be said for the proven player (especially if he's still pretty young). Greg Oden, anyone?
Remember: Portland signed Miller because Paul Allen wants to win a championship. It wasn't just about the player, it was about the strategy. OKC doesn't HAVE to sign a max player--I trust the team to figure it out--but I do expect them to be active in trade now or on the free agent market this summer. Anything else should be a disappointment to fans who want to see this team win a ch'ship.

David Lee would replace Jeff Green not play alongside him.

By the way, OKC is ranked 7th. Ahead of Boston.
Can you say, RESPECT
Comments?

The Oklahoma City Thunder were the best defensive team of the month, allowing just 97.7 points per 100 possessions.
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/powerrankings/02/01/w...

As in, KD don't need no witness, he's the Proof.

If Paul Pierce is the Truth, KD is the Proof.

Why would we want an undersized center (david lee) to go with an undersized pf in green?

We need a true center. I keep dreaming about somehow getting bynum from the lakers. Now that would be nice.

@Chas
probably like football, release players, but it would have to go hand and hand with non guaranteed contracts for released players, which im not so sure will happen from the players union. So i dont think the owners will get the hard cap, my hope is for something like contracts are guaranteed for the first 3 years, after that players can get cut and the teams owe them no money, but with provisions about the same team not being able to resign them for the rest of the season(to prevent injured players from getting cut then resigned when healthy) This way bad contracts can be taken off the books, so owners and teams are not so tied down with salaries that cripple teams like the knicks have been. Then on the flip side offer be able to offer bigger performance bonuses to players for performing well, and be able to renegotiate those more often, maybe every 2 years, so good players are rewarded with more money that historically would have gone to bad players.

@DizzyDai
well it will get used with our resignings if we dont use it now and get another player we lose it and are stuck with what we have, its use now or lose it situation.

@justin
lol he actually has a per of 8 and is averaging a whole 2.5PPG

It is a waste of cap space if you don't use it. You are allowed to go over the cap to resign your own players. You can't go over the cap to sign a free agent. You have to do a sign and trade to get a free agent in that situation.

The least we could do, if there are no good options available to use our cap space on, is to sign a good player on a good contract. You can always find a way to trade a good player with a good contract.

Thabo, for example, has a very good contract in terms of value. If Thabo gets named to a couple all nba defensive teams over the next couple of seasons, that contract looks even more appealing. You can trade a contract like that. He's not the centerpiece, not a blockbuster, but that is a very movable asset. Not every team could use Thabo's talents, but lots of teams could.

I could see us using our cap space for a guy like that. A guy that most teams could use, with a good contract. That way, when on down the line a player that we do want becomes available, we could use our good contract in a deal.

The unused cap space is not cash. The cap space is an asset. If you use the asset it costs you cash, but you acquire another asset, in this case a player. You can then trade that asset for another asset. You can't trade cap space (sort of, you can rent it out so to speak). So, by not using the cap space, you're essentially releasing an asset.

Of course, if you acquire an asset that turns out to be a liability, then you've hurt yourself long term.

I read something a day or so ago about the owners wanting a hard cap whenever the 2011 CBA negotiations take place. Do you think that has any bearing on what Presti is thinking.

If a hard cap were introduced, what would teams like the Lakers have to do?

I'm asking because many people seem to think unused cap space is a waste of cap space.

I'm not knocking Miller in the slightest, but Portland looked to sign Turkolu and Milsapp first. It seems obvious that Miller is not fitting well with their plans. Especially since they tried to move Roy to the SF to make room for Miller.

What I was trying to say is if OKC can not get what they want (solid rebounder/defender), should they tie up an asset through free agency. That would use their cap space, and give them another trade asset for future considerations.

Is there a min. games played that a player has to play in order to win the scoring title?

Ugh, Adam Morrison's probably the worst player in the NBA not kidding..

@DizzyDai
andre miller has played well recently, and he has provided them depth, but we still have real needs to fill, rebounding, post scoring, a real 2nd scoring option. Before we sign just for depth, but at some point that s what needs to happen, i mean the difference between having a kevin ollie has the 3rd PG or a kyle weaver could be huge if injuries pileup, we can stay cheap but we need players on the bench capable of contributing, not having etan thomas or ollie or harpring type players is the difference between playoffs and titles, look at the lakers their worst player is adam morrison, he could be a rotation player on a bad team. probably could start for the nets,lol.

@Keith
green will be a RFA not UFA

@DizzyDai

The Blazers did need him, he's playing great right now, they're winning without half of their roster. If they didn't sign Miller they'd be in a world of trouble.

David Lee is the free agent that I think would most help this team.

$8 million is too much for Jeff Green on this team IMO..

@MartzMimic
im not really for blocking another team unless they are a rival, and in the lakers case the bosh for bynum may not help the lakers, bosh takes 5 more fGA a game and those shots have to come from somewhere, he also plays more mins so odom or gasol plays less, and bosh is a slightly better rebounder, but rebounding is not a laker weakness, so really i dont see why the lakers would do it except to have another big name of the roster, bosh is a PF bynum is a true center.

We tend to go back and forth over the same ideas.

I see and role player signed and the Thunder trading for a better draft position. Otherwise nothing significant.

Would you guys prefer a Andre Miller type signing over this next summer? Just to tie up cap space? Obviously the Blazer really don't need him (if there were no injuries) and he could be traded for a possible upgrade in the future. Smart move?

I think Green will sign an 8 million extension this offseason if we don't trade him. I think his agent will want 10, but I think Presti would take the chance in UFA at that number. A year after this big FA extravaganza, with a low cap, I don't think he'd be able to get more than 8. 8 is actually above his current value right now as PF, but I could see us being fine with the extra thanks to his being a very good influence off the court and still being young enough to improve.

@MartzMimic
You get the best player you can when you have the capacity to do so. If Bosh or someone similar was available last year, it still would have been worth it to get him, even when we looked terrible. If you wait for your players all to mature, then you've likely passed your window to use what cap space you had. The only thing to really worry about is whether the player you pick up will still be in his prime when your young guys are ready to go to the top. The guys available this year that we would want all have at least half a decade of prime basketball ahead of them. That's perfect.

@kev
yeah, but it depends on if we get him to sign an extension or let him become a RFA and then decide to match or not on the market price. If he was a starting SF he would be really good, he just isnt cut to be a PF, anymore then KD was as a SG.

f5alcon :@keveven if we keep him he isnt a max contract, maybe something equal to collisons or slightly more.

another team will give him more than that . . . he's a decent player, he's just miscast in OKC . . .

@kev
even if we keep him he isnt a max contract, maybe something equal to collisons or slightly more.

Warning: Obvious statement ahead.

The real question is when do you spend the money? Do you look for someone proven while our youngster are growing, or do you re-sign them and wait until they've become more mature players?

I'm also not above looking at what could/should you do to prevent someone else from getting that last piece (aka Bosh to the Lakers)? I'm not saying we should, but part of winning a championship is making sure the other teams don't. (Sound of can of worms opening).

@Duncan
The biggest risk is not taking one, if we stand pat we will be like kev said a perennial playoff team at best. Even with durant becoming one of the most efficient scorers of all time, we still will hit a wall unless we fill a few needs. Some people might be happy with a team in the playoffs every year(my dad), he just wants competitive basketball, he doesnt care about titles or anything, but i want championships and lots of them and that requires a bit of luck, which we have had and getting good depth, which we have at some positions like PG, westbrook, maynor, weaver probably cant be improved on much. But to be a real contender we need to be able to handle injuries at any position and keep going, like how denver is winning even with melo injured.

Getting a big name or a few medium free agents will allow us to have a lot more depth, our current starter can become a bench option and improve depth.

I don't think we resign Green - I think he's gone in a trade . . .

Stein has the Thunder at 16 in the newest Power Rankings.

@Duncan
After next year, we will be in cap purgatory regardless of what we do with our current cap space. Durant and Green's extensions, plus signing picks, will take up all the room we have.

Further, why does everyone assume we are going to sign a bust? I mean, we are talking about Presti here. He's proven himself to be a pretty darn good judge of character and talent. If we trade for someone or pick them up as a free agent (which we should), you can bet they will fit and be worth the money.

@justin
Thanks, i redid the sort based on ts% and scoring more then 25 PPG and shot more then 50 3PTA to eliminate centers that play inside and changed the time to 3 pt era. KD is now 2nd all time based on that and 3rd on efg%

Duncan :Better to waste it by not using it and still having it available later than waste it by signing a player to a bad contract and being stuck in cap pergatory for years to come.

the key (obviously) is to

a) use the cap space

and more importantly

b) use it on a player worth the contract . . .

obviously that's easier said than done . . .

Our team is not set right now - if we make no changes - even with the anticipated development of some players - our ceiling is perennial playoff team . . . think Utah of the last few years - they are pretty much a lock for the playoffs, and pretty much a lock to get eliminated in the first round or second round . . .

Better to waste it by not using it and still having it available later than waste it by signing a player to a bad contract and being stuck in cap pergatory for years to come.

Keeping cap space isn't smart if you don't use it to improve the team.

@justin

So you're saying there's a chance!

Keeping cap space is smart. How do you think Presti exploited other teams to get players like maynor and chandler traded to OKC?

I don't see Presti tying up all the cap space. He tends to grow through draft and trade.

@josh yes i'm agree with you wait on the development of IBAKA .he is very good rebounder and shot blocker in next 1-2 years .i don't know why nenard still be starter ,please explain me .why him??
your guys think who is fit for our CENTER from trade?? or free agent??
We have a chance to get Bosh or David Lee??

@f5alcon

The odds of Ibaka becoming as good as Chris Bosh are similar to the odds of a tornado hitting a junk yard and assembling a working Boeing 747.