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Tuesday Bolts – 1.19.10

thunderbolt23John Hollinger on the Thunder after yesterday’s win: “It’s one of many quantum leaps the Thunder have made in the past twelve months. It’s hard to remember, but a year ago at this time they were 8-33. They’ve nearly tripled their first-half win total, and after another hard-fought road win in a tough arena the Thunder — who are one of only seven teams with a winning road record at 11-9 — seem well on their way to making the playoffs a couple years ahead of schedule.”

Frank Hughes of SI looking at OKC’s needs: “Oklahoma City is in an altogether different mode, but would like to add a complement to center Nenad Krstic nonetheless. The Thunder aren’t trying to find a short-term fix for a run in the postseason, but are focusing more on their long-term goal of building a sustainable winner. Oklahoma City is one victory away from matching its win total for last season, and though making a decision for immediate success is tempting, Thunder general manager Sam Presti is going to place a premium on patience and prudence.”

Ball Don’t Lie, behind the box score: “Everyone seems to be talking about Jeff Green’s big dunk on Josh Smith, and for good reason. Smith overplayed for just a second, 40 feet from the hoop, and that was enough for Green to roll all the way to the rim for the massive one-hand throwdown. It capped an impressive road win for the Thunder, but really, this was Oklahoma City’s game from the outset.”

No Russell Westbrook in the dunk contest. Sad face.

Dime on yesterday’s game: “So long as they can get their superstars to re-up when the time comes — which, knowing Joe Johnson and Kevin Durant, is a likely scenario — would it be too crazy to predict a Hawks/Thunder NBA Finals matchup sometime this decade? Maybe in the next five years? The up-and-coming contenders gave a preview in one of yesterday’s early MLK holiday games.”

Hoopinion: “Sefolosha’s absence was notable during Atlanta’s seven-point offensive explosion between 5:48 and 4:41 of the fourth quarter. Two Joe Johnson’s jumpers sandwiched a Josh Smith and-1 to cut Oklahoma City’s lead from seven to two … Should Jeff Green or Russell Westbrook become an efficient scorer to complement Durant, Oklahoma City will be really, really good.”

A nice piece from the AJC comparing the Thunder and Hawks: ”Even in losing, the Hawks felt flattered. What they’ve done is what Oklahoma City is endeavoring to do. “A mirror of our team,” Mike Woodson said afterward, and when was the last time anyone else in the NBA regarded the local franchise as anything to be emulated? Not many teams can match talent with the Hawks. The Thunder did it Monday and left a three-point winner.”

This is what the All-Star jersey Kevin Durant will be wearing will look like.

Game highlights:

Jeff Green's cram was No. 2 on SportsCenter's Top 10 last night. Pretty good.

The Thunder are 10th in NBA.com's power rankings: "The Thunder are temporarily in ninth place, but the numbers say that if they keep their quality of play at the level it's been, they're a playoff team. Speaking of numbers, Kevin Durant has remained red hot, hitting 14 of his 18 shots against Miami on Saturday."

I'm sure you saw it over the weekend, but Art Garcia of NBA.com hypthosizes that Chris Bosh fits in OKC... now: "Oklahoma City is loaded. With talent. With picks. With cash. When pondering future seasons of a Thunder program that starts but doesn’t end with Durant, visions surface of a serious Western Conference contender. But why can’t it be this season? Isn’t this franchise in position to make a major move in a conference that has more of its share of quality teams though none, outside of the defending champion Lakers, are overwhelming.”

Darnell Mayberry’s reaction: “The problem is, trading for Bosh now doesn’t guarantee he’ll be around in the future. Acquiring Bosh would be a big-time risk that could blow up in July if he decides to bolt for, say, the beaches of Miami or Broadway in New York. The Thunder will have then traded valuable assets for nothing. It’s that risk that partially explains why Phoenix was unable to move Amar’e Stoudemire last season after all the fuss and trade rumors regarding where he’d land.”

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*I guess it's THIS decade now...;)

Since we're talking about trades that will never happen, I was playing with the Trade Machine and came up with one that seems like gold.

Thunder get: D. Blair, S. Curry, and B. Lopez

Spurs get: Kevin Ollie

G-State gets: D.J. White and K. Weaver

Nets get: B.(no J) Mullens

It says we decrease our wins by 14, but I say we win 3 Championships in the next decade. What say you?

Sounds a little crazy but ya know I wouldn't be suprised if it happened, sign of the times where advertising is more powerful than anything it seams. That would seem a little weird but the knicks would be better@Brew

What do you guys think about this trade.

Dalembert and Kapono from the Philly, for ethan Thomas, Matt Harping and a Pick of some description.

We Get an extra 3 point shooter and a defensive center, as well as a trade asset in dalembert's 12million expiring contract for next year

If some people like Marc Gasol, why not Tiago Splitter, Marc Gasol's marque matchup opponent http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Marquee-Matchu...
And if you think, he may not come to NBA to get salary paycut, please read this:
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/04/23/tiago-sp...

okay so Westbrook won't be in the dunk contest (hopefully one of these years he will be), but what about KD in the 3 point contest? he could compete, no doubt..

and we would be the new favorite team to something like a billion new fans lol......if he were only 25 again

And yeah... Yao would be AMAZING if he could stay healthy.

CptCnote :* not too well, apparently…:)

apparently :)

* not too well, apparently...:)

We should go after Yao :)

I just want the Thunder to sign Joakim Noah...all they need is an energetic center who can rebound and defend and they are gonna be a monster. Of course some may say Serge is gonna do those things, but having Noah as a bigger player who can play center would allow them to play Serge at the PF position, where he would have a HUGE physical and athletic advantage on most nights.

@MartzMimic

To get Chris Bosh in the offseason we would have to do a sign and trade, competing with every other team that's looking to get him. It's still a very unlikely scenario, especially since there will be four teams that are able to sign him outright.

The more and more I look at all the trade scenarios, the more I am convinced that Presti will only make a minor, incremental sort of move. He has a LOT of assets that will be useless after the trade deadline. BUT, I just get the feeling that he won't be willing to bet the farm on a big name.

Perhaps someone like Murphy (as Patrick suggested) or some other mid-level big will come our way before the deadline, I just don't see Presti breaking up the young core.... which to me is Maynor, Westbrook, Harden, Thabo, Durant, Green and Ibaka. Although we know how valuable Collison is to this team, he is perhaps more valuable as a trade piece. Kirstic, Colly, Harprings and a first rounder for Dalembert and fluff sounds fairy realistic to me... but I can't see Presti chasing down a max contract sort of player when he has so much talent to work with already.

@f5alcon
Yah, I guess if it was possible, we would have seen it already. I could imagine a team giving a player an endorsement deal from someone associated with the team to avoid the luxury tax by giving them a smaller base salary.

On NewsOK's live blog yesterday, we got into the Bosh discussion. Some posters were advocating going after Bosh before the trade deadline. Most of us agreed that would be a bad move considering there's no way to lock him up after this season. Darnell put the chance of Presti doing that at 0 percent.

What was interesting was that when it came to going after Bosh in free agency, Darnell's estimate jumped to 68 percent. His thinking - and I tend to agree - is that teams are going to overpay ($12-13 million range) for bigs that produce a lot less than Bosh, so it's a deal worth considering.

So the road in the West does get easier for us, partially because all four games with Minnesota are still ahead of us. The strength of schedule for Western conference games in the first half was .572 based on today's records. The second half drops to .501. We had only 5 games in the first half with West teams currently under .500, but we have 10 in the second half.

Just for the record I don't know morgan and no one knows me on here, but i totally sensed morgan's sarcasm in the first comment.

@Keith
That's for sure. And once we do more of what we did yesterday, closing out a close game, then the better that record will be. Of course, it goes back to Royce's article about expectations. At the beginning of the season there was 'no way' we would get 43 wins, now it would be a slight letdown to go 20-21 in the back half.

Here's something to discuss, I wrote a thing about our first half of basketball and discovered something interesting while researching it:

Oklahoma City allows the third most attempts at the rim in the entire league, at 29.5 FG attempts at the rim per game. However, opponents are only shooting 58.7% on those attempts - we're 9th best in the league at that. What does this mean? It means we're doing an excellent job challenging shots on the interior (though we do foul a bit too much, more on that later). More importantly, it means that the 3rd best defense in the league has a lot of room to get much better. Teams attack the rim against us because we lack the shot blocking to dissuade it. Considering the fact that we give up very low percentages on jump shots, could you imagine how good our defense would be if we had the personnel to force teams to shoot against us?

It's amazing we give up that many shots at the rim and defend as well as we do.. if this weren't half of the season I'd say it was due to luck.

Greg Oden's gone further in the playoffs..

;)

KingGondo :@Mrs
. Daily Thunder
KD has no future in this league, Oden has had a far better career so far.

You joke, but sad thing is that is not that far off from what blazer fans are saying

@Keith

This is why John Hollinger's rankings have us so high, I believe he takes into account margin of victory.

OJ Mayo will start ahead of Westbrook.. deserved or not.

It's possible James Harden could be snubbed. He's more productive than Curry and maybe even Jennings at this point, though. Ty Lawson's been good, also.

@Tapdog72
That was mentioned by Zach Harper in Daily Dime yesterday. Our record against the West is misleading because we played all our toughest games already. Further, it discounts margin of loss to the likes of LA, San Antonio, and Dallas. We are better than that record indicates.

What do you think are the likely Rook/Soph starters? My favorites:

Sophs - Westbrook, Rose, Gallinari, Love, Lopez. Mayo should be on the team, but Gallinari is a better fit for an actual team. Rose and Westbrook are better than Mayo, so he gets demoted. Gasol would also be here, but Lopez is the better player.

Rooks - Jennings, Curry, Evans, Casspi, Blair. This is a very guard heavy class. Blair is the only good big man with Blake down. That works in these kinds of games, but last year still has better guards too.

Based on our winning percentage against the East and West, and taking into account the number of games against each conference, that would project a 20-21 record for the second half. Of course, since we only have to play Houston and the Lakers once in the second half (and at home) vs. three times each in the first half, maybe our West record won't be so bad in the second half. (Currently 8-14)

This summer, during the whole Brett Favre "will he or won't he" retirement saga, I was so sick of hearing his name that I skipped Sportscenter and ESPN radio for days at a time.

I'm about to that point with Chris Bosh. I really dread this summer when I'll hear LeBron's name a billion times more than I already do.

The comments on this blog are approaching that level. Every 3rd post is about a trade of some sort, and it.gets.so.repetitive.

@Brew
yeah i think you would have a better chance in a smaller market being less obvious, like if we resigned westbrook for 8 mil and some business people give him a 2 mil endorsement

The All Star jerseys are great looking. KD will look good.

Now I'm curious about the Rook/Soph jerseys.

hard time spelling before my coffee, off I go!

When can I order my KD all star jersey?

What if the players thought it up? Lebron goes to Nike with what he wants, states that he needs Wade and Bosh restructered for it to happen- ah forget, i am streching, you guys are right, no way in hell.

@Brew
If anything like that ever came out, the league and players' union would step in. It would be unfair for the other teams and other players, and it couldn't fly.

@KingGondo
yeah i agree gasol would be a fit, but bosh is more realistic, not so much in a trade but as a FA, even then i dont think we get him but at least as a FA we are on a even playing field with other teams.

@Brew
i dont think nike can do that, at least on paper, as a violation of the CBA for collusion. Otherwise the knicks and lakers would have all star teams, a few wall street bankers pay a few million a year to the best players to offset a lower official salary. It would have to happen off any official record, a handshake deal that nobody knows about.

Down a little on a story up there was one where Wade was asked if he could envision taking a pay cut to play with James and Bosh. But does it have to be a pay cut? I only looked around for a few minutes, but it looks like everyone is signed with Nike, with Lebron a freeagent show whore in 2010. So Nike approaches them all with the idea of a superteam where they take less from the team, and make the rest up with the shoe contracts. These contract can rival their pay. So Nike then has a superteam to promote, albeit paying more for the pleasure. What ya'all think? Nike could even push them towards NY, a pretty big market.

@Mrs. Daily Thunder
KD has no future in this league, Oden has had a far better career so far. ;)

;) ;) ;) ;) I HATE JEFF GREEN. ;) ;) ;) ;)

@Keep Collison
This was cool, and I look forward to seeing what you say after the Charlotte game. I'm planning on going to the game in Boston at the end of March, so I'll definitely post after that and let you guys know about my experience. I'm really looking forward to that one.

I just wrote a report on my experience at the Hawks game in the recap thread. If anyone is interested in reading it. ;)

@f5alcon
I know it's a low possibility, just saying that I think Gasol would be the ideal fit for this team. I'm sure Presti has at least inquired about him.

I suppose that rather than throwing out wild scenarios about guys like Bosh, we should probably focus on teams with 1) bad management and 2) bad contract situations.

@morgan

Just type a ; with a ) right next to it. ;)

sorry i thought thats what the quotations were for....and i dont know how to do a "wink face"

@steve H
This is good news. It doesnt mean we'll get something necessarily, but it means that we're looking and trying. It means the FO knows where we need help. Something will happen. I'm excited.

@chris

That's what the wink face is for. ;)

You missed the best part of the SI article: that Okc, Por and Den were considered the most active clubs shopping for a big man before the deadline.

fyi, sarcasm doesn't come across very well on message boards. Nobody really knows you here and conveying tone is tricky.

@KingGondo
no way we are getting marc gasol, memphis is not going to give up a gasol again unless we give them durant, or 10 1st rd picks over the next decade or something crazy like that. There are a handful of centers and Pfs that would be an upgrade over what we have.

Green on the bench would allow us to start harden also because then we would have a scorer for the 2nd team, plus green vs backups would make his numbers better

@Mark!
You ppl do recognize sarcasm when you see it wright? I don't want to trade for Bosh....unless we get him in free agency.