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Thunder at Bucks: Pregame Primer

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Time: 7:30 CST

Offensive Rating: Thunder – 106.4 (17th), Bucks – 102.3 (25th)
Defensive Rating: Thunder – 104.1 (8th), Bucks – 103.9 (7th)
Pace: Thunder – 92.2 (20th), Bucks – 93.4 (11th)

View from the enemy: Bucksketball

Potential letdown game? Maybe. And if it happens, so be it. But I expect a win. I’m convinced this team is good. It’s still young and nonsense losses are sure to happen, but regardless of that, every game against a sub-.500 squad should be a win. Until of course the Thunder loses three or four of these and I go back to being scared like Indiana Jones in a snake pit before each game.

The Bucks and Thunder are both riding streaks coming into this one, just streaks in the opposite direction. OKC is of course riding a five-game winning run, while Milwaukee has lost four straight. The Bucks haven’t played since Wednesday night so they’ll surely be rested, and the fact they’re basically full strength is big for them too.

THE MATCHUPS
Andrew Bogut was missing from the first meeting and that was a big help to the Thunder as OKC outrebounded the Bucks by 12 and dominated the paint. I doubt that will happen again tonight. But in that first matchup, Russell Westbrook got the best of rookie sensation Brandon Jennings, holding Jennings to just 14 points, three assists and three turnovers. That of course will be the biggest head-to-head in this game.

(Deep breath) Luc Richard Mbah a Moute will likely guard Kevin Durant and Mbah a Moute is a decent defender that is strong and likes to play physical. But right now KD is riding as hot as you can and I’m not sure you could stop him from scoring 25 if you tied his feet together and threw a blanket over his head.

Jeff Green should have an advantage over Ersan Ilyasova (though Ilyasova is a quality player) and Thabo should be able to lock on to Michael Redd. A rather large key will be which bench plays the best. Milwaukee has a nice second unit with Luke Ridnour and Hakim Warrick anchoring things. I’ll definitely enjoy watching Serge Ibaka and Warrick lock up. Talk about some length and athleticism.

The Bucks have a lot of trouble putting the ball in the basket, especially if Jennings isn’t scoring. That’s why this game figures to tilt in OKC’s favor, even if Milwaukee is 9-7 at home. Again, I’m beginning to expect wins which is a crazy thing, but I wouldn’t be stunned by the opposite. It’s a long season and you can’t win them all. But right now, it kind of feels like we will. Winning streaks are fun.

Tip at 7:30 CST. Go Streak.

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Current starting lineup is weak on defensive rebounding despite the help that Westbrook, Thabo and Durant provide. Below the team average.

Substitute Collison for Green and they go to a great defensive rebounding team... at least in the 50 minutes they've been tried.

brent barry sucks

@justin

The great things you listed about barry was precisely why he was a great trading asset and a coveted commodity for which sonics could've gotten some great pieces. As good as he was, that sonics team had plateaued and was never gonna be on an upward trajectory from what they were at that point, and you knew barry's decline was about to start taking place at any moment. Instead of realizing this and using him as an asset in a trade while his value was high, and using him to get something back that would give the franchise something to look forward to, they hung onto him for the stupid "glue guy" reason and in the process blew a shot at getting bosh at draft time.

Now you tell me, were the sonics better off keeping radman, barry, and their late lotto pick than they would have been if they packaged all them for bosh?

Hi guys. The recap is up. Thanks.

Whoa, um, The DON. Brent Barry was ultra, super, magnificently efficient and productive in his years in Seattle, not to mention very affortable and a great glue guy. The trade that brought Brent Barry to the Sonics is one of the biggest heists in Sonics history (Hersey Hawkins going to the Bulls and not doing anything). Barry actually lead the league in eFG% twice in Seattle, and offensive rating once. In his last year with the Sonics he was still very productive, with a TS% of .688. Which is incredible for a guard. The only knock on Barry was obviously his defense, and the fact that he was so passive on offense.

Jeff Green is nothing like Barry. Brent was crazy efficient on offense and that made up for his defense problems somewhat. Jeff Green isn't nearly as good.

wait i got the wrong gm
nm lol

oh god I hate that name Wally Walker........

Kev :
Green needs to be traded – mediocre offensive numbers, TOO MANY MINUTES, and a bad defensive score (-2) . . .
seriously, would we miss him (basketball wise) if he was gone??

Green reminds me, as a sonics fan, of brent barry, who was kept around far too long because of the perceived "good for chemistry" and "glue guy" aura, when in fact he was that team's best asset to acquire a player that fit a more pressing need. I believe a draft day trade of Brent Barry, sonics pick, and radmanovic for Bosh was actually turned down by sonics because they didnt wanna part with the glue guy barry

Presti better not fall into the same trap as those seattle morons like wally walker

Joakim Noah will eat us alive on the boards. Better get ready for it....

I wouldn't trade Harden for Bogut but I would drastically reduce his playing time and give it to Maynor, see if it wakes him up, same with Green. Hell maybe start Collison and see if that wakes up Green.

sorry - didnt mean to do that . . .

justin :Would you trade James Harden for Bogut? I probably wouldn’t but I think it’s a fair question the way our front court is looking aside from Durant.

justin :Would you trade James Harden for Bogut? I probably wouldn’t but I think it’s a fair question the way our front court is looking aside from Durant.

justin :Would you trade James Harden for Bogut? I probably wouldn’t but I think it’s a fair question the way our front court is looking aside from Durant.

that's a no brainer . . . Bogut easily -

Chicago is also a good offensive reboud team, that means an ugly game ahead of us.

Would you trade James Harden for Bogut? I probably wouldn't but I think it's a fair question the way our front court is looking aside from Durant.

@Kev
It would be impossible to miss him basketball wise, he's a disappearing act more often than not.

I don't think so - they saw vanilla ice cream up close . . .

Well it's probably safe to say Milwaukee won't trade Bogut for him now :)

Green needs to be traded - mediocre offensive numbers, TOO MANY MINUTES, and a bad defensive score (-2) . . .

seriously, would we miss him (basketball wise) if he was gone??

How does Kristic not get a single rebound? That is just unacceptable. Presti needs to be thinking of something. We have to shoot a high percentage to cover our lack of rebounding.

justin :I liked that Scott Brooks experimented with the Westbrook – Maynor backcourt for a little bit. It looked promising to me.. maybe throw it out there a little bit time to time, it opens up some things on offense.

IMO it is only because Harden play horrible games lately, and Tabo can not score which give Bucks extra man to double KD. Coach just does not have another option.

When thunder winning, I was so naive think Okafor has a huge contract that we should not try to get him. The truth, that is the only decent big we can have in OKC for many years. I love Mac Gasol, but he will never wear thunder uniform. Not mention Bosh or other big names, big free agent wont even look at OK city.

I liked that Scott Brooks experimented with the Westbrook - Maynor backcourt for a little bit. It looked promising to me.. maybe throw it out there a little bit time to time, it opens up some things on offense.

Road games are tough no matter who you are playing..

The scary part too is the Bulls and Hornets are doing pretty good right now too. So these following games are not gonna be as easy as everyone once thought before...

I don't think our defense was bad in this game until the end. Milwaukee did not shoot a high percentage. The problem was defensive rebounding. You give them extra shots, close to the basket, and they'll score. They were missing a lot of contested shots but gathering the rebound and scoring at the basket.

Memphis 128- Phoenix 103... They may have a better record at the end of the season. Strong preformances from Gasol and Z-Bo. IMO defence start from protect the paint, which is the worst thing Thunder doing now. And that is why even Memphis or Minnesota can win over Boston and Dallas, they have a much better front courts.

I think we should have won this game. Too many offensive rebounds, too many turnovers. Part of me blames the coaching; our offense in crunch time is so ridiculous. I have no idea why we play one on one offense to end games. It wasn't that bad offensively for most of it.. we should have won this game in regulation, despite the poor rebounding and the turnovers. We were lucky to escape Utah with our 'crunch time' offense. This time we didn't get saved by the refs.

Secondly, after this game (and the LAL games, the HOU games) if anyone still feels the Jeff Green / Nenad Krstic front court is a winning front court long term you must get your head examined. We got destroyed on the boards. Nick Collison is our only capable rebounding big, Serge Ibaka does not know how to box out. It's a problem.

I thought we played well for most of regulation, Milwaukee is a good team at home and they were probably slightly favored in this one due to being healthy. We stayed close and had an opportunity to win it at the end. But our ridiculous game plan offensively cost us the game, IMO. Our insistence on isolating either Durant or Westbrook one on one to end games is not a working strategy.

Yeah houston would not be that dumb, but if we trade green I want a player who can contribute immediately

The DON :@Raynor
I would love landry and would probably be happy with green for landry straight up, but I’d rather package green with one of our expirings and a 1st rd pick and go for a bigger fish

SURE ROCEKT WONT BE THAT STUPID SWAPE LANDRY FOR GREEN. THE IDEA FOR TRADE A HIGHER LOTTO PICK IS THE BEST I CAN THINK.

niimits :and thats why we need westbrook, he is the only one who can actually try to carry us down the stretch with that kind of defensive pressure on.

If he can make free throws, then it would be a lot better. Also, he is the sec option for Thunder since Green is out of wrack right now... Therefore, Westbrook definately need to improve his shooting and especially free throw shooting since they are free...
Once again... It really shows that Thunder need a real big guy in the paint, or working a lot harder to secure the rebounds... Giving away 19 offensive rebounds... Wow...
Yup... Time to start it all over again, and hopefully they would take this game as a lesson.

The DON :

Anonymous :We can’t get the ball inbounds and kd is absolutely awful at dribblinghe just needs to be a spot up shooter and come off screens because he can’t dribble at this point in his career

100% in agreement with you
KD makes me cringe when he is dribbling

on your side too. While I hope KD can improve the dribble this off season, until then, CATCH AND SHOOT

@Raynor

I would love landry and would probably be happy with green for landry straight up, but I'd rather package green with one of our expirings and a 1st rd pick and go for a bigger fish

The DON :Jeff Green:
44mins, 3-11fg, 8pts, 7rebs
NO COMMENT

Trade Jeff Green, right now he is still a winning team's starting PF, that is his max value; do not wanna wait until next yr when ibaka take over him place, his trading value wont be more than a 2nd round pick. Look at Cal Landry, shammmm

Damn Kristic and Green both straight to the fiery furnaces of HELL

What in the hell was Kristic doing in there when we needed a huge defensive stand? We had scorers on the floor, we didn't need him out there. We needed to stop Bogut. Whatever, they've been playing like this the past 4 games and somehow coming out with the wins, this one just caught up with them.

Anonymous :
We can’t get the ball inbounds and kd is absolutely awful at dribbling
he just needs to be a spot up shooter and come off screens because he can’t dribble at this point in his career

100% in agreement with you

KD makes me cringe when he is dribbling

Jeff Green:

44mins, 3-11fg, 8pts, 7rebs

NO COMMENT

and thats why we need westbrook, he is the only one who can actually try to carry us down the stretch with that kind of defensive pressure on.

I vote for a NEW rotation and starting yesterday!

I have no faith in us ever making a clutch 3 when losing in the final minute, it just never seems to happen

More I watched, More I hated Jeff Green. He should secure the paint, not letting bogut tiped in at final min. Damn.....

GAP :
From now on i’ll never speak Krstic’s name again until he learns how to be agressive!

from now on i’ll never speak Krstic’s name again until I learn to pronounce it.

From now on i'll never speak Krstic's name again until he learns how to be agressive!

GAP :
Krstic should’ve blocked that ball

Ibaka would of...

Annnnnd, that's the game. Great streak fellas. Now start a new one.

and that's just bitter basketball by Ridnour.

way to go Frodo, if you played like that in Seattle, things'd have been different!

Krstic should've blocked that ball