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Ten questions for the New Year

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Do we need to re-evaluate our expectations?
Yes. And no. But mainly yes. We knew the team would be improved this year. We knew they wouldn’t be 4-29 through the first part of the calendar year. But I don’t think many expected to be 18-15 and in the Western playoff hunt. Most every Thunder prediction had the team winning around 35 games. But here’s what’s weird: If the Thunder wins 35 games now, the season goes as a major disappointment. That would mean they’d finish 17-32 from here on out and that would be a bummer.

Expectations are a weird thing because you set them prior to really knowing anything. You say, “If Oklahoma City finishes a win over 35, I’d be pumped.” But at this point, you’d be disappointed. Because of the team playing well, they’ve reset the expectations of the fanbase. It’s not like people are going completely insane and wanting the five-seed in the West and expecting a deep playoff run and if it doesn’t happen they’ll pull a refrigerator on top of themselves. But now 40-plus wins and competing for the eight-seed are within sight. A small taste of winning just brings a bigger desire for more of it. Winning feels good. And when it starts happening, people start thinking of how to win more and more and more… NOW.

So the answer is yes. Expectations have to be altered because anything under 35 wins would be an incredible downer, mainly because of the way the schedule softens. But at the same time, you have to understand the difference in overachieving and just exceeding expectation. Right now, this team is doing both. The talent is there to be good. It’s just a matter of keeping it together for three more months and taking another step ahead.

What’s been the biggest surprise so far?
Obviously the overall win total has been a pretty nice surprise, but the biggest is the December win total. The team posted its first winning record in a month (8-6) in some three years, but that wasn’t the impressive part. What was surprising was the month it happened. December was seen as probably the most difficult on the schedule with a slew of back-to-backs, tough road trips and games against contenders. But the Thunder came out not only above .500, but with room to spare. I for one, was pleasantly surprised.

Biggest disappointment?
It’s hard to be sincerely disappointed with really anything when a team is playing this much better than you thought, but I’d point to two things: Jeff Green’s 3-point shot and defensive rebounding. First, Uncle Jeff. Green is such an important player to this team because despite what some people think of him, he understands a role better than anyone on the team. I know some people have visions of a high-dollar big man coming in to replace him and while I wouldn’t necessarily be entirely opposed to it, you have to realize how Green fits. He doesn’t ever take shots away from the star. He defers to Kevin Durant in every situation. He knows his spot and his affect on the game. Some nights, he’ll take a larger role and score 20. Some nights, he’ll shoot just five or six times. And since we’ve tasted winning and want more, it’s easy to look at Uncle Jeff and want more production. But the fact is, with him playing a substantial role, the team is 18-15 with an average age of 24. I’d say that’s pretty good.

But regardless, his 3-point shot has been a buzz-kill. It was a major strength in his game last season as he shot nearly 40 percent from deep. This year, he’s hovering right at 29 percent which is improved from 22 percent, which is what it was two weeks ago. The shot will come back and get better. I’m convinced of it. He’s a good shooter and has shown he can make it on a semi-consistent basis. But, you know, there’s a small silver lining to his three-ball struggling. He’s had to commit a little more to a post game and has showcased the ability to score on the block a little, which is nice.

As for the other, it’s simple: the Thunder allows too many offensive rebounds. Nineteen against Milwaukee. Twenty-three against Houston. And multiple other games around 15. It’s an issue that needs to be corrected or at least, improved. The Thunder is a team that rebounds as exactly that – a team. There isn’t one dominant rebounder. In fact, only two teams have lower leading rebounders than the Thunder’s 6.9 for Kevin Durant (GSW’s Anthony Randolph, 6.7 rpg, Indiana’s Roy Hibbert, 6.0 rpg). Again, it’s something that needs to get better if this team wants to seriously compete the next few months.

And get this stat: [Westbrook] is one of two players in the league averaging at least 15 points per game, seven assists per game and five rebounds per game. The other guy? Some dude named LeBron James.

How much different will the roster look by season’s end?
My guess is not much. Matt Harpring’s contract will likely get moved, but then again, he’s not actually on the roster. The only player I would assume is actively being shopped is Etan Thomas, and I’m not even sure he’ll be traded because Sam Presti might prefer to just let him expire. Potentially a package deal that moves Thomas and a couple young guys (D.J. White, Kyle Weaver), but even still I have trouble really seeing it happen. I doubt Kevin Ollie gets dealt, even with the emergence of Eric Maynor. I think Ollie has been a valuable mentor to both Maynor and Westbrook.

Presti has shown that he prefers to trade rather than compete in free agency, so it seems like someone will get dealt. It’s hard to predict these sort of things. If you had asked me two weeks ago, I would have said for sure that Shaun Livingston would finish the season in OKC. But then again, what do I know? Speculating trades is near impossible to do, especially when the trade wizardry of Sam Presti is involved. For all I know he’ll deal Harping’s contract and a second-round pick for Dwight Howard and Orlando’s unprotected first-rounder for the next six years.

Kevin Durant, legitimately in the MVP discussion?
Yes. Believe it. It might be hard to really wrap your mind around, but he deserves to be in the discussion. Of course he won’t win it (unless the Thunder goes absolutely ballistic in the second half), but he’s fourth in the league in scoring, 11th in PER, is the unquestioned leader of a vastly improved team and leads his team in both scoring and rebounding.

If Oklahoma City seriously competes for a playoff seed down the stretch and even makes it, I bet Durant finishes in the top six. He’s going to be an All-Star and he’s catching the attention of a lot of people, especially with his scoring 30 or more points for seven straight games. He’s beginning to make The Leap and step into the top tier of elite NBA players. Oh, and he just turned 21 three months ago.

Russell Westbrook, All-Star?
I know what you just said. (Spits out water) What!?!? Are you serious? Come on now. He’s not going to be one, but if he follows up with a January similar to his December, he should at least get some consideration. He really looks like he’s getting it. Instead of inconsistent one-good-game, one-bad-game performances, he’s stringing together a bundle of solid games. And it just feels like he’s understanding his role, sensing the moment and figuring out how to play his position.

He’s sixth in the Western Conference in assists per game and his assist-to-turnover rate is comparable to everyone above him not named Chris Paul. He’s also third in the league among point guards in rebounds a game. And get this stat: He’s one of two players in the league averaging at least 15 points per game, seven assists per game and five rebounds per game. The other guy? Some dude named LeBron James.

Again, Russ isn’t going to Dallas. There are just too many awesome point guards in the West (Steve Nash, Paul, Deron Williams, Jason Kidd and even Baron Davis). Westbrook’s achilles is his field goal percentage (which is bad, don’t get me wrong) but he’s been a fantastic playmaker and after a slight slump in late November, he’s definitely on the right path.

Will the starting lineup remain the same throughout the year?
This is a tough call. I’m going to say yes, but I could see Serge Ibaka taking Nenad Krstic’s starting spot at some point. I know most thought James Harden would supplant Thabo, but I don’t see that happening. Harden’s minutes are coming up and leveling with Thabo’s, but Sefolosha is just too valuable to take out of the starting lineup. He brings energy from the start and I think having Harden’s offensive spark off the bench is a good plan for now. I like sending Durant to the bench around the start of the second quarter, only to have Harden come in and sort of handle the offensive load for a few minutes. It doesn’t always work, but I think it’s a good plan.

Who will make the most improvement from here until the end of the season?
Four guys are prime candidates to make serious strides from here until the end of the year. First, Serge Ibaka. At the rate he is improving, he might be Hakeem Olajuwon by the end of the year. Of course I kid, but considering how far he’s come in just 33 games, think about where he’ll be in another 49.

Next, James Harden. Harden has steadily gotten better, but regressed a bit late in December. He was still productive, but he just struggling shooting a bit and didn’t create as well as he had earlier in the year. But he’s just a rookie. He’s got a lot to learn. He’s improved rapidly and has filled a role really well. He’s shooting the 3 pretty well (34 percent) and is getting to the line alright (3.2 times a game). He’ll start finishing some of those tough drives and start getting calls on others. From here until the end of the year, Harden will take some major steps in the right direction.

Thirdly, Kevin Durant. He’s improving every game. He’s getting closer and closer to being a complete player and not just a volume scorer. In just three months so far, he’s gotten a ton better rebounding, defensively and even with his floor leadership. Another three months will some important games sprinkled in for him to learn from and he might be in the Wade/LeBron/Kobe/Paul discussion. Seriously.

Last, Russell Westbrook. Like I said before, he’s starting to get it. He’s going to slump again and he’s going to have some bad nights. But his field goal percentage is going to start coming up. I bet he finishes the year around 41 or 42 percent. His assists numbers are getting consistent and he’s beginning to understand how to create and distribute. He’s not a traditional point guard and never will be, but that doesn’t mean he won’t be productive and an important player from that position.

Despite turnovers, KD should be in the MVP discussion by year's end.

Despite turnovers, KD should be in the MVP discussion by year's end.

KD’s turnovers: Big issue or small issue?
It would appear to be a big one. He’s had 22 turnovers his last four games, including a seven spot against Milwaukee. He’s second in the league in turnovers at 3.8 per game, only behind Monta Ellis’s 4.3. Don’t feel too bad though. LeBron averages 3.6 a game, Steve Nash 3.7, Deron Williams 3.5 and Dwyane Wade 3.3. So while yes, the turnovers are an issue and need to come down, it’s not like he’s alone on the list. Playmakers tend to turn it over more because they’re trying to make plays. It’s natural. To get some of the really, really good, you have to deal with a few dumb passes, dribbling off the foot or losing it out of bounds on a tough dribble-drive. Again, I’m not dismissing it, but I wouldn’t flip over it.

What’s a realistic win total now?
I did a quick run-through on the schedule and guessed a win or loss and I pegged the Thunder going 26-23 from here on out. Granted, that could be way, way off, but it seems somewhat reasonable. That would have Oklahoma City finishing 44-38 and likely in the hunt for a playoff spot. January gives opportunity to make a little headway as well as February and the beginning of March. I saw OKC getting up to around 10 games over .500, but a late March stretch of San Antonio, Houston, Portland, the Lakers, (Philadelphia) and Boston, all in a row is scary. Like could be back-breaking scary. The good news is, the first four in that run is at home and the Thunder might steal one. But they might lose five of six too.

The best part is, we’re actually discussing potentially meaningful games. This time last season, we were debating whether or not it was better to win or lose. There will be no tanking talk this season. Expectations were higher to start with, and now they’ve been taken up another notch. I don’t know how it’ll finish or if I’ll be right about a single thing I mentioned above, but let me tell you, I’m pumped to find out.

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Mark! the practice time split would be a question for Darnell to answer. Unless or until the Thunder grant a certain somebody else press credentials.

@Crow
This is really strange to me. I'm thrilled with the focus on defense approach, but the offense seems really, really basic. I'd be curious to hear what the % time spent on offense vs defense is.

Does anyone think Aldrich could be a capable NBA center? He seems to fulfill some of the roles we're looking for: in particular rebounding and shot-blocking. The guy plays incredibly hard and passionate (a little different than Krstic). Since we have 5 draft picks, I assume we could trade 2 of them and move up to grab Aldrich. The guy may not be a hall-of-famer, but I really feel he could complete our team and fill a huge hole.

@Bryan
I could understand at 21 you wanna do somethings :-) But at the same time they really don't live in the city they play in, in most cases they live elsewhere. My point is, if whether it's partying or hunting women (in my best elmer fudd voice) they got the money to have all the fun they wanted, believe me. Money talks and B.S. walks :-)

@GAP
lol... I guess you could infer that from the last few posts. I know that's not all that motivates players - and frankly you don't want the players that are ONLY motivated by that - but it's a factor.

I mean, what were you thinking about at 21? Have you ever looked at an NBA player's twitter friends list? Even Durants? Just sayin. It's a factor. It just is.

I'm not saying that OKC can't land a great FA, but we have to acknowledge that the city's reputation is not helpful with SOME players. I mean even Durant has complained about the food and lack of life after dark, and he's about as clean a kid as you could ask for.

That said, any player who turn down a shot at a title just because they don't like the city.... is an idiot who does not deserve his pay.

Crow :
It is easier to say what the offense isn’t doing than what it is trying to do unless you just say that Westbrook does what he wants 1 on 1, Durant does what he wants 1 on 1, Green what he wants 1 on 1, Krstic what he wants 1 on 1, Harden what he wants 1 on 1, etc. Is that really the extent of the plan of are they trying anything more elevated or sophisticated?

That is exactly what I'm saying. They are playing TEAM defense and street ball on offense.

Given the strength of the Thunder's guards, I would really like to see more small-ball being played when match ups permit.

I for one would not be afraid to play Maynor, Westbrook, Harden, Durant and Ibaka and pick up the pace a bit.

@Bryan
I can't believe all GOOD players like Bosh value the nightlife and all the women they can find, as a reason to sign with a team (which your post sounded like you were saying) Chris Paul was the biggest young star we had here and he even liked being here. It's all about winning and that's all when you've been on teams who haven't done a lot of that, as Bosh hasn't experienced in his whole 7 seasons in the league.

I'm tired of hearing people say this or that player won't come to OKC because he can't party all night and he won't get laid like Wilt Chamberlin, come off it! If you have a ounce of a competitive spirit you would play in freakin Chickasha if you could win a CHAMPIONSHIP sooner rather than later.

It is easier to say what the offense isn't doing than what it is trying to do unless you just say that Westbrook does what he wants 1 on 1, Durant does what he wants 1 on 1, Green what he wants 1 on 1, Krstic what he wants 1 on 1, Harden what he wants 1 on 1, etc. Is that really the extent of the plan of are they trying anything more elevated or sophisticated?

Crow :
Among guys 6-8 or 6-9 who’ve played 600+ minutes this season LeBron is #1 on assists per minute, Durant a respectable but not exciting #12. Green 27th of 43 and behind the likes of Zac Randolph and Ben Wallace.

I still wonder if at least some of this does not have to do with the coaching staffs focus on defense. I think that to some extent, the coaching staff left offensive development on the back burner for this year.

You can find evidence of that in how they kept DJ White on the bench. You can see it in Brooks' statements about how they are approaching Ibaka's development: focusing on D and not much else.

I'm hoping that they spend a little time on this soon. And I fully expect (with or without personnel changes) that the offense will receive greater attention during the off season.

Yes f5alcon.

You can question who Presti surrounded Durant-Green with as much as Durant-Green itself.

530 of those Krstic-Green 610 minutes this season are the starting lineup. It is so top heavy you can't really say how Krstic-Green does outside of it, at least this season.

Last season the current starting lineup was -100 in 280 minutes. Not nearly as bad this season -37 in 530 minutes but I really fail to see how or why this was selected by one of the top 5 most used lineups in the league other than it follows lockstep with the choices of the boss.

Last season Krstic-Green was used with other lineups almost twice as much as the starting lineup and it appears it was somewhere close to neutral.

The problem might be more at the level of the full 5 man starting lineup being wrong than Krstic-Green being unworkable overall even if it almost always going to be weak in rebounding and other areas.

@f5alcon
I agree on most counts. I'm just don't think it does us any favors to not acknowledge our shortcomings. OKC has improved a great deal since I moved here in 2003, and it continues to get better all the time.

The critique on women is a bit harsh I guess, but I'm trying to think about what NBA players might be looking for...

@Crow
durants assists would be better if we had players besides him that shot well, when you're passing to green or westbrook they miss a lot of shots.

@Bryan
I meant that, for the sake of this discussion, the Kirstic/Green pairing only counts when Green is playing at the 4 next to Kirstic and not the 3.

Among guys 6-8 or 6-9 who've played 600+ minutes this season LeBron is #1 on assists per minute, Durant a respectable but not exciting #12. Green 27th of 43 and behind the likes of Zac Randolph and Ben Wallace.

@Bryan
yeah, and i agree it is a factor and assuming Bosh is the target here and we are campaigning against NY, is what i would pitch though without the negatives, but i think the national media portrays us in a worse light then is fair, they usually complain about the weather, yet we have 300+ days of sunshine a year, the temperature rarely goes below freezing(less then 2 weeks a year) though this year has been worse. The food like you mentioned is worse in certain styles, Italian, Chinese and bagels come to mind, but BBQ, steak and mexican are better here then in the northern climates. Lower living costs, 58% lower then NYC, cheaper housing, cheaper gas, cheaper food, lower taxes, So they end up with more money for themselves.

Also bricktown is right next to the arena, and is being expanded significantly with maps 3, most arenas are not in the club district.

Though i wouldnt pitch it, but i disagree with the lack of women here, the women are way better looking out here, NY is full of uggs, the troll population seems to breed in large numbers there. *ducks to avoid attacks from the women* Not that women should be chosen based on looks,

Crow :
Krstic/Green is -60 in 610 minutes. Not horrendous but is about -5 per 48 minutes or about -2 every game for the time they play together.

I'm wondering what percentage of those minutes are played with the rest of the starting line up v. how many are played with rotation sets. Kirstic is usually the first to sit. So that limits their minutes. Plus, Green usually spells Durant at SF. So for the sake of this discussion, the player pair does not count.

Any insight?

f5alcon :@Bryan
I lived in NY for 12 years and in Manhattan for 4, and yeah it is a better quality of life with more options, but OKC isnt so far behind that nobody would want to live here, also the taxes in those cities are significantly higher as are housing prices, so they end up with less money, I mean a 5 million dollar place in NY or LA is the same size as a $500,000 place here.
Some players wont want to move here because of quality of life, but i doubt most would say it is the biggest part of making their decision, if we offer more money, or a chance to win a championship, they might come here regardless of the quality of life. I mean if ben gordon will leave chicago for detroit, which is a step down, just to get more money, other players would too.

I have never been to OKC so I can only speak for the large market areas I have lived in : NYC, San Fran, Seattle, Philly- all have quality of life pros and an urban setting- albeit it a very white one in terms of Seattle. I could see a high-profile player moving to a small market. They would be a large fish in a small pond. How much time is spent in the city you play home games in? Training camp and home games may make up a fourth or a third of a years time (pure guess). Outside of endorsements, I could see anyone resigning or joining the squad as a free-agent.

A big part of the Project Big Wing concept seemed to me to be that they (KD and JG) would be above average passers. So far, not really.

I think Brook's 9 man rotation will come in handy once all the long term salaries are in place. Once those 9 are well paid, there will be pennies left over for the other 4-6 players.

Between this season and the long-term future there is a possibility next season could be the ideal season, depending on trades and the draft. The future big salaries could start to crowd out some of the well paid role players, depending on how much they are willing to spend.

Krstic/Green is -60 in 610 minutes. Not horrendous but is about -5 per 48 minutes or about -2 every game for the time they play together.

Free Mullens :
I’m a bit curious as to why Krstic is still getting minutes. He has, for the most part, been a total stiff this year. I’d rather give our prospect stiff playing time than our stop-gap stiff. As I said last night, the management seems to have big plans for Beejyron. I think we should give him minutes, at least for one night to see what he’s got.

I still think he is at least a year away from being in the rotation, but for the most part... I agree.

I will be shocked if Presti doesn't land us a new starting center by the trade deadline. We have five draft picks this year, and we need none of them. If our picks aren't moved by the deadline, then I'm pretty sure our potential off-season trade partners are stuck with who Presti picks, and not their own preferences. We have a combined 12mill+ in Thomas's and Harpring's expiring contracts. The salary cap will be moving downward, so any number of teams are looking to shed salary, and a bunch of teams would like to clear space for the free agent bonanza this summer. All of these assets will essentially be wasted if not moved by the all-star game, and I get the impression that Presti's the kind of guy who sucks the marrow out of his Thanksgiving turkey bones and makes jewelry out of the leavings.

Also, free agents go to San Antonio because they win. I imagine that we'll be similar (once we start winning).

Interesting detail Mark!

Just looking at +/-

Collison/Krstic is off the charts positive= +51 in 94 minutes. Just 94 minutes. But why the heck only just 94 minutes?

Krstic / Green is probably negative but I am not immediately sure how negative.

@f5alcon
Fair enough. Personally, if I was an NBA player, I would just travel a lot anyway, and keep a few cheap houses in my favorite cities.

Crow mentioned some of this already, but to reiterate...

Kevin's first 3 years his turnover breakdown is as follows
1st: 12% offensive fouls, 35% errant passes, 53% ball handling
2nd: 17% offensive fouls, 35% errant passes, 48% ball handling
3rd: 19% offensive fouls, 33% errant passes, 48% ball handling

For comparison's sake, Lebron's first 3 years
1st: 9% offensive fouls, 55% errant passes, 36% ball handling
2nd: 13% offensive fouls, 47% errant passes, 41% ball handling
3rd: 14% offensive fouls, 49% errant passes, 37% ball handling

The assertion that LeBron's turnovers are from playmaking errors in passes is correct. It is also correct that most of KD's turnovers are from ball handling errors.

If you want to be the optimist, ball handing is a skill that can be improved. KD's 3rd year is still a small sample size, so we'll see how this year turns out before jumping to conclusions. So far KD's turnovers per game are at the highest in his career.

The pessimist will say that KD's lack of passing ability is not likely to be improved. It's a "You have it or you don't" skill. However, one could alter this behavior systemically.

@Bryan

I lived in NY for 12 years and in Manhattan for 4, and yeah it is a better quality of life with more options, but OKC isnt so far behind that nobody would want to live here, also the taxes in those cities are significantly higher as are housing prices, so they end up with less money, I mean a 5 million dollar place in NY or LA is the same size as a $500,000 place here.

Some players wont want to move here because of quality of life, but i doubt most would say it is the biggest part of making their decision, if we offer more money, or a chance to win a championship, they might come here regardless of the quality of life. I mean if ben gordon will leave chicago for detroit, which is a step down, just to get more money, other players would too.

@Mark!
Well I've been to and partied in all four... I hated LA and LOVED Philly. San Fran is still one of my favorite towns, but there is a ton going on in DC.

I don't mean to say that OKC will never land a big free agent, I'm just saying that it will always be a factor in players' decisions to play here.

Also...

OKC is 22nd is Stocks (steals + blocks) @ 3.0
Average is 3.5
Best is Atlanta @ 6.0
We're ahead of Sacramento, Miami, Houston, Indiana, Charlotte, Cleveland, Golden State, Portland

OKC is 27th in Rebounds @ 11.1
Average is 15.6
Best is Memphis @ 21.4
We're ahead of Cleveland, Charlotte, Golden State

@Bryan
I dunno if Los Angeles to Philadephia or Oakland/San Francisco to DC represent "lateral" quality of life changes, but I know what you're saying. It's all personal taste in the end anyway.

f5alcon :
i dont see why Bosh wouldnt come if we paid him and he had a chance of winning, the whole big market thing is overrated, really the knicks havnt signed a big name free agent in a long time, and its not like the lakers and boston are the only places people want to play, players sign with smaller markets.
Boozer went from cleveland to utah, brand went from clippers to philly, nash went from dallas to phoenix, arenas went to the wizards from golden state, so it isnt unprecedented that a middle tier FA signs with a smaller market to make more money, and its not like LA or boston have cap space, and nY cant sign everybody, so some players have to sign with smaller market teams.

My point isn't so much about market size, as it is about quality of life for a 20-something millionaire. In my opinion, all the free agent moves you mentioned were lateral in terms of quality of life. And the Clips and Knicks are just poorly managed.

@justin
Agree about Westbrook having the most improvement. Honestly, I think his FG% comes together if he just starts taking better shots. If he'll cut out his drive in 18ft out of control jumpshot, that will help.

And despite what I've heard on this board, Westbrook really isn't a bad spot up shooter. Most of his 3's that I've seen are off assists (anecdotal), and the few times he's played SG, I thought he moved off the ball well and shot coming off screens better than most on the team (poor comparison, I know.) If our offensive evolves a little and becomes something that more consistently involves the team instead of just ball handler + one pass, then I think it improves his FG% even more.

My biggest concerns with Westbrook were things I thought could be easily improved (less crashing for offensive boards and better shot selection.) That's why he can be so frustrating.

@The one & only DON
I'm interested in looking at some stats for PF/C pairs instead of just Green alone. Krstic really isn't without blame. This is hardly a good comparison, but just a quick look at stats...

Using the starting lineups listed on ESPN today (meaning some new/temporary starters were used in the comparison):

If you add Points + Rebounds + Assists + Blocks + Steals...
Green/Krstic are 24th overall with 39.4 (Average is 48.6; Best is Memphis with 64.7) This places us ahead of Indiana, Portland, Detroit, Cleveland, Charlotte, Golden State.

For FG% (not eFG%), we're 28th overall with 46% (Average is 50%; Best is Boston with 59%) This places us ahead of Chicago and Golden State.

Note:
Indiana is starting Solomon Jones
Portland is starting Juwan Howard
Detroit is starting Jonas Jerebko and Ben Wallace
Cleveland is starting JJ Hickson and Shaq
Charlotte is starting Boris Diaw and Nazr Mohammed
Golden State is starting Vladimir Radmanovic and Chris Hunter
Chicago is starting Brad Miller and Joakim Noah

i dont see why Bosh wouldnt come if we paid him and he had a chance of winning, the whole big market thing is overrated, really the knicks havnt signed a big name free agent in a long time, and its not like the lakers and boston are the only places people want to play, players sign with smaller markets.

Boozer went from cleveland to utah, brand went from clippers to philly, nash went from dallas to phoenix, arenas went to the wizards from golden state, so it isnt unprecedented that a middle tier FA signs with a smaller market to make more money, and its not like LA or boston have cap space, and nY cant sign everybody, so some players have to sign with smaller market teams.

Durant last season

OF 39

Passes 78

BallHandling 109

Look like he has the same pattern again this season

Funny.

If I do drift away maybe that should be the signal you want be back. I'll probably answer but at some point I'll let you be with your own team.

Frankly, the negative perception of OKC is well deserved in SOME respects. The food here is not so great. And what you can get, you can't get after 9 or 10 PM, or on Sundays at all. The nightlife is also limited. The lifestyle is slow paced, which is fine for a lot of people, but not for young superstars. The supply of women is also a bit limited. So yeah, just sayin... Although OKC is improving in those areas, we will always have to fight that reputation when bringing in some players.

The upside, is that you are more likely to get players that are serious about basketball... players that aren't gambling and pulling guns on each other.... then wondering why they are not playing well as a team, pause.

And for Bosh, coming from Toronto to OKC would be like going from OKC to New Castle. It's just a different world. Toronto, New York, San Fran, Chicago will always attract more talent during free agency (cap space permitting). So yes, OKC's only assets are it's current roster, championship potential, and trade assets. The town itself is a liability.

Here is Westbrook last season vs this season:

OF Passes BallHandling
08-09 35 95 144
13% 35% 53%

09-10 18 41 34
19% 44% 37%

@Jax Raging Bile Duct

and suddenly I have the vision of a big Crowsign followed by a police chief going "ka KAH ka KAH"...

hmm I smell a batman spoof similar to spaceballs now lol

AH! Excellent. Crow was like batman just then, I flashed the bat sign in the sky and suddenly there he is. Perfect.

I'll take a look at the breakdowns and report back shortly.

Your comment that ball handling turnovers was the most common type for him is correct.

I do get busy with other stuff and I might actually step back (believe it when it happens) but

Jax, the turnover breakdown info is from 82 games

Here is Durant's
http://www.82games.com/0910/09OKC9.HTM
scroll about 1 page down from the top

Turnovers and Ball Handling (thru 12/26)

Offensive
Fouls 19

Bad
Passes 33

Ball Handling
Turnovers 48

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
Try basketballvalue.com or 82games.com or hoopdata.com. All those may have it.

kev :
I went and looked at the last play again from Saturday night – Durant got stripped because his head was down – he didn’t see the double coming – he has to anticipate the double – if he penetrates before the double team comes, fine – shoot the ball – if he gets trapped, he has to pass it out before they get close enough to strip it . . . it’s not about trusting his teammates, he HAS to pass it if he gets doubled – a mediocre shot is better than NO shot . . .

I was just getting ready to type that exact sentiment

@The one & only DON

I think Mullens was referring to the fact that Bosh would rather play with Wade/Lebron stars than up and comming star in Durant.

As far as it being "bad" here...Personally I love OKC and wouldn't live in LA or NYC if I was being paid to do so.

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