Soon, a few months, next season or the one after that?
When have you waited enough to know enough about that pair?

The insiders are quite patient.

We’ll wait n see how it evolves from here.

and the opponent shot location page

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Thunder defense lowest of all in forcing opponent shots from 16-23 feet and 10th most given up from 3.

But we’ll see where it is after 10, 20 or 40 games- if they wait that long.

This starting lineup was still negative on Adjusted despite being positive on raw +/-.

“Thabo is by far the best perimeter defender we have”

Not disagreeing on 1 on 1 ability to make stops but it hasn’t worked at team level so far this season. “It is either Sefolosha’s issue or who he is playing with or both.” I think who he is playing with is certainly an issue, probably the primary one.

Of course 5 games is short but the fact that the starting lineup is doing essentially the same as last season seemed worth noting to watch it and see if the results change or to call attention to it before they change the starting lineup.

“Etan and Colly have been playing good together because neither are looking for shots, and are playing physical defense and rebounding.”

On raw +/- +20 in 35 minutes. With generally strong defensive marks together.

If you went for your best starting lineup based on player level Adjusted so far it would be Collison-Green-Durant-Harden-Westbrook. Brooks has used it a total of 1.5 minutes so far.

Houston is very, very well coached. Every player knows exactly where to be and what to do. They’re super quick.

I don’t remember a game where we were stripped of the ball as much as this game. I’m talking strips in the double digits. I don’t know if all of them were clean, but there were no fouls called, so they’re just as good as clean. And that’s just really impressive to pull that off.

I think the transition defense is what cost us this game. Houston had some success in their halfcourt offense, and whatever motion sets they run sure had us confused a lot, but their transition offense was great and we did little to stop it. Russell wasn’t the only one, there was an overall lack of hustle.

Russell was the leading scorer, but I don’t really mind that for this game. He obviously had the stroke, and the advantage in the matchup. If you have an advantage, you should take that advantage. If it happens to be your point guard, then so be it. It’s not my preference, but again, it was working. 14-25 is a line any player in the league would take.

Jeff had a poor offensive game tonight. We’re not talented enough yet to make up for one of our scorers in a slump. But he did turn in on in the second half. Overall this season, he’s been our most consistent player.

I thought KD had an excellent game, considering who was guarding him (Battier and Ariza).

In all, Houston took advantage of their matchups in transition and we didn’t adjust. Scoring 94 points will win you most games if your defense shows up that night.

Anyone else wonder why we didn’t start fouling with 2 minutes left to go in the game? We were down 8, and just let them dribble the clock out.

Joe :The thing I’ve noticed so far this season, and yes, I’ve been watching the +/-, is that the second unit has really been making strides. The Collison, Thomas, Harden, Ollie and usually Durant has been bringing runs. But you have to remember that they are playing usually against the other team’s second unit.
Our first unit has indeed gotten off to bad starts in every game so far if memory serves, definitely in Sacto and Detroit. Same with the Lake show. So, with it being so early the first unit looks bad, which of course coincides with Durant’s mini slump. I think though that what I wrote in the summer about pairing the finesse bigs with a power big is something to think about. As of now, D.J. white is a finesse big, so is Green and Krstic. Our power bigs are Etan, Colly and maybe Ibaka. However, Etan and Colly have been playing good together because neither are looking for shots, and are playing physical defense and rebounding.

They never trailed against Sacramento. They hammered them from the start.

James :You think? That’s pretty obvious. Steve kerr’s \- with the bulls back in the day might not have been quite as good with the Clippers.

of course it’s obvious – but my statement was not directed at you – it was directed at all the +/- advocates . . . it has serious flaws . . .

Our first unit has indeed gotten off to bad starts in every game so far if memory serves, definitely in Sacto and Detroit. Same with the Lake show. So, with it being so early the first unit looks bad, which of course coincides with Durant’s mini slump. I think though that what I wrote in the summer about pairing the finesse bigs with a power big is something to think about. As of now, D.J. white is a finesse big, so is Green and Krstic. Our power bigs are Etan, Colly and maybe Ibaka. However, Etan and Colly have been playing good together because neither are looking for shots, and are playing physical defense and rebounding.