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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34862&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kev&lt;/a&gt; 

Well, if I follow your logic, if Sefolosha and Green are the solution, why isn&#039;t it being done? I&#039;ll tell you, because Sef can&#039;t score and because Green is already getting his minutes at four. There are absolutely minutes and a need for a scoring three behind Durant. It would mean cutting Durant back a bit, cutting back Sef and cutting back Green at the three. Deal with it guys, you are professionals.

It&#039;s really crazy to run that second unit (Colly, Etan, Harden and Ollie) with our biggest minute starter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-34862" rel="nofollow">@kev</a> </p>
<p>Well, if I follow your logic, if Sefolosha and Green are the solution, why isn&#8217;t it being done? I&#8217;ll tell you, because Sef can&#8217;t score and because Green is already getting his minutes at four. There are absolutely minutes and a need for a scoring three behind Durant. It would mean cutting Durant back a bit, cutting back Sef and cutting back Green at the three. Deal with it guys, you are professionals.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really crazy to run that second unit (Colly, Etan, Harden and Ollie) with our biggest minute starter.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kev it doesnt have to get this tight a system and don&#039;t feel you have to change but I throw it out there anyways for your consideration if you wish:

One thing you could check is how much the game&#039;s defense varies from league average Defensive efficiency. If it is 10 points up or down then net the opponent&#039;s offense or the Thunder defense appears to have been 5 baskets better or worse than average.  If your defensive ratings are exactly +5 lower or -5  than this then it would be saying the defense was soley responsible for these less or more baskets. But since there can be good offensive plays that you might feel the defense shouldn&#039;t take &quot;blame&quot; for (and I agree there will be such plays) the amounts can vary but ideally they would vary by the amount of good offensive plays. If the difference between  the game&#039;s Defensive efficiency and league average is bigger or smaller than your net Defensive score (total positives - total negatives)  then there might be more or less  defensive plays to grade as bad or good.

If you want. But your impressions without a real strict accounting system still has value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev it doesnt have to get this tight a system and don&#8217;t feel you have to change but I throw it out there anyways for your consideration if you wish:</p>
<p>One thing you could check is how much the game&#8217;s defense varies from league average Defensive efficiency. If it is 10 points up or down then net the opponent&#8217;s offense or the Thunder defense appears to have been 5 baskets better or worse than average.  If your defensive ratings are exactly +5 lower or -5  than this then it would be saying the defense was soley responsible for these less or more baskets. But since there can be good offensive plays that you might feel the defense shouldn&#8217;t take &#8220;blame&#8221; for (and I agree there will be such plays) the amounts can vary but ideally they would vary by the amount of good offensive plays. If the difference between  the game&#8217;s Defensive efficiency and league average is bigger or smaller than your net Defensive score (total positives &#8211; total negatives)  then there might be more or less  defensive plays to grade as bad or good.</p>
<p>If you want. But your impressions without a real strict accounting system still has value.</p>
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		<title>By: 4razr</title>
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		<dc:creator>4razr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the first half, but from what I picked up Houston had been forced into putting up a lot of jumpers, which they missed. They appeared to make a great adjustment at the half--kudos to Adelman and the players for executing.
Lacking Kristic hurt. He opens up the middle for drives, which wasn&#039;t happening in the 2nd half. The Rockets effectively shut down the paint.
What does OKC do when the 3 isn&#039;t falling? They had no answer. I wanted to see them drive and get to the line (which wasn&#039;t happening enough at all). I also wanted to see some fouls on the defensive end. Time after time the Rockets got into the paint, and I don&#039;t remember one hard foul in the second half. Thomas should at least be good for that.
It looks like a good idea to try to force OKC into being a jump-shooting team (especially without Kristic). It was last year, and this continues to be a big issue on offense. We will never have an efficient offense if we continue to settle for the mid-range jumper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the first half, but from what I picked up Houston had been forced into putting up a lot of jumpers, which they missed. They appeared to make a great adjustment at the half&#8211;kudos to Adelman and the players for executing.<br />
Lacking Kristic hurt. He opens up the middle for drives, which wasn&#8217;t happening in the 2nd half. The Rockets effectively shut down the paint.<br />
What does OKC do when the 3 isn&#8217;t falling? They had no answer. I wanted to see them drive and get to the line (which wasn&#8217;t happening enough at all). I also wanted to see some fouls on the defensive end. Time after time the Rockets got into the paint, and I don&#8217;t remember one hard foul in the second half. Thomas should at least be good for that.<br />
It looks like a good idea to try to force OKC into being a jump-shooting team (especially without Kristic). It was last year, and this continues to be a big issue on offense. We will never have an efficient offense if we continue to settle for the mid-range jumper.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax Raging Bile Duct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax Raging Bile Duct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I noticed that hasn&#039;t been pointed out is Jeff Green&#039;s game. In the three games against Houston (including preseason), Jeff hasn&#039;t been himself. I was worried about this last night, and this is my conclusion.

Jeff Green has tried for half his NBA career to play the 4. His entire PJ tenure he played the 3. His matchup advantage has been his quickness, to get around the traditional 4&#039;s or draw them out to the 3 point line to open up the lane for someone else. It works wonders when he plays guys like Carlos Boozer. However, when he plays Houston, and every guy on that team other than Aaron Brooks is 6&#039;6&#039;&#039; to 6&#039;9&#039;&#039; and is as quick as he is, he loses his advantage. Ideally, he would go to his post-up game at that point, but he never did. Jeff took a few 3&#039;s where he was open enough, but he wasn&#039;t hitting. He tried to drive a few times and every once in a while he was successful. But you never saw him successful posting up in the low block.

Mostly what I&#039;m trying to say is that it looks like Houston&#039;s personnel takes away Jeff&#039;s matchup advantage. 

The same is kind of true for Russell. In the last game he posted Brooks up several times successfully, which caused Aaron to hit the bench so someone else could take that option away. But last night this wasn&#039;t explored much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I noticed that hasn&#8217;t been pointed out is Jeff Green&#8217;s game. In the three games against Houston (including preseason), Jeff hasn&#8217;t been himself. I was worried about this last night, and this is my conclusion.</p>
<p>Jeff Green has tried for half his NBA career to play the 4. His entire PJ tenure he played the 3. His matchup advantage has been his quickness, to get around the traditional 4&#8217;s or draw them out to the 3 point line to open up the lane for someone else. It works wonders when he plays guys like Carlos Boozer. However, when he plays Houston, and every guy on that team other than Aaron Brooks is 6&#8242;6&#8221; to 6&#8242;9&#8221; and is as quick as he is, he loses his advantage. Ideally, he would go to his post-up game at that point, but he never did. Jeff took a few 3&#8217;s where he was open enough, but he wasn&#8217;t hitting. He tried to drive a few times and every once in a while he was successful. But you never saw him successful posting up in the low block.</p>
<p>Mostly what I&#8217;m trying to say is that it looks like Houston&#8217;s personnel takes away Jeff&#8217;s matchup advantage. </p>
<p>The same is kind of true for Russell. In the last game he posted Brooks up several times successfully, which caused Aaron to hit the bench so someone else could take that option away. But last night this wasn&#8217;t explored much.</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-34809&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34809&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;f5alcon &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;DJ white scored at will def deserves more minutes when we need points&lt;/blockquote&gt;

YOu know why he only played three minutes I presume . . .</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-34809" rel="nofollow">f5alcon </a> :</strong>DJ white scored at will def deserves more minutes when we need points</p></blockquote>
<p>YOu know why he only played three minutes I presume . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collison&#039;s injury is a factor in Durant&#039;s minutes, in my opinion. It&#039;s pretty obvious that Brooks does not trust the anyone other than Green and Collison at the 4. With Nick out, that means more run for Jeff at the 4 and less time at the 3 to spell Durant. As much as we think he might be trade bait, Nick does have a role on the squad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collison&#8217;s injury is a factor in Durant&#8217;s minutes, in my opinion. It&#8217;s pretty obvious that Brooks does not trust the anyone other than Green and Collison at the 4. With Nick out, that means more run for Jeff at the 4 and less time at the 3 to spell Durant. As much as we think he might be trade bait, Nick does have a role on the squad.</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vince &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;Yeah, I don’t think a backup 3 is really a pressing need here. We can very easily run a 9-man rotation with KD playing (for argument’s sake) 36 minutes a game with the other 12 going to Green — if we want to go big — or Sefalosha if we want to play a bit smaller. If you get a backup 3 his minutes are going to be coming from Ibaka, White, and Harden, not necessarily from KD. KD isn’t playing 45 minutes because we don’t have a backup 3; he’s playing 45 minutes because we don’t have (or Brooks hasn’t found) a unit without him in which Brooks has confidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


agree . . . we don&#039;t need a backup three - We already need to find more minutes for Harden - having Thabo play more at the three (along with Green ) would do - Harden can even play there for 2-3 minutes if necessary . . .</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-34832" rel="nofollow">Vince </a> :</strong>Yeah, I don’t think a backup 3 is really a pressing need here. We can very easily run a 9-man rotation with KD playing (for argument’s sake) 36 minutes a game with the other 12 going to Green — if we want to go big — or Sefalosha if we want to play a bit smaller. If you get a backup 3 his minutes are going to be coming from Ibaka, White, and Harden, not necessarily from KD. KD isn’t playing 45 minutes because we don’t have a backup 3; he’s playing 45 minutes because we don’t have (or Brooks hasn’t found) a unit without him in which Brooks has confidence.</p></blockquote>
<p>agree . . . we don&#8217;t need a backup three &#8211; We already need to find more minutes for Harden &#8211; having Thabo play more at the three (along with Green ) would do &#8211; Harden can even play there for 2-3 minutes if necessary . . .</p>
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		<title>By: B-RY</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-RY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree... but I think that with Ibaka&#039;s development, there is now more potential than before. By the end of the season, I think Brooks will have it figured out.... and there is always trade season right around the corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree&#8230; but I think that with Ibaka&#8217;s development, there is now more potential than before. By the end of the season, I think Brooks will have it figured out&#8230;. and there is always trade season right around the corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I don&#039;t think a backup 3 is really a pressing need here. We can very easily run a 9-man rotation with KD playing (for argument&#039;s sake) 36 minutes a game with the other 12 going to Green -- if we want to go big -- or Sefalosha if we want to play a bit smaller. If you get a backup 3 his minutes are going to be coming from Ibaka, White, and Harden, not necessarily from KD. KD isn&#039;t playing 45 minutes because we don&#039;t have a backup 3; he&#039;s playing 45 minutes because we don&#039;t have (or Brooks hasn&#039;t found) a unit without him in which Brooks has confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t think a backup 3 is really a pressing need here. We can very easily run a 9-man rotation with KD playing (for argument&#8217;s sake) 36 minutes a game with the other 12 going to Green &#8212; if we want to go big &#8212; or Sefalosha if we want to play a bit smaller. If you get a backup 3 his minutes are going to be coming from Ibaka, White, and Harden, not necessarily from KD. KD isn&#8217;t playing 45 minutes because we don&#8217;t have a backup 3; he&#8217;s playing 45 minutes because we don&#8217;t have (or Brooks hasn&#8217;t found) a unit without him in which Brooks has confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>either or</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>either or</p>
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