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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/10/need-reason-to-be-excited-about-this-season-heres-20-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28706</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27669&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Royce &lt;/a&gt; 
Bosh will be a free agent. The trade only makes sense if they can lock Bosh into a deal.</description>
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Bosh will be a free agent. The trade only makes sense if they can lock Bosh into a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: J.G.</title>
		<link>http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/10/need-reason-to-be-excited-about-this-season-heres-20-2/comment-page-1/#comment-27915</link>
		<dc:creator>J.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green is not going anywhere. For the last time, you don&#039;t trade the glue of your team and your superstar&#039;s BFF for a minimal (yes, I said it) upgrade. If you don&#039;t think it&#039;s minimal, just read the next couple paragraphs about how &quot;great&quot; Bosh was last year. Green&#039;s staying put. End of story. 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27736&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kev &lt;/a&gt; 
And I&#039;m sorry, but a team does get better without trading all the time; it&#039;s called player development. And if you guys don&#039;t think Bosh doesn&#039;t have holes in his game then you simply didn&#039;t watch much Raptors ball last year. There&#039;s a reason Toronto only won 33 GAMES last year people.

Bosh is not as much of an upgrade over Jeff Green as everyone here seems to think; he&#039;s a career 19 and 9.5 guy who will always be the second best player on a contender, or the best player on a middle of the pack playoff team. Given Green&#039;s ability to play multiple positions and his wide ranging skill set, not to mention the fact that he&#039;s the guy who does all the dirty work and is great at playing second or third fiddle without complaining...and Presti would be crazy to trade him for Bosh (do you really think Bosh wouldn&#039;t make a stink about being #2 in OKC to Durant, really?)

And all that to say, I love Bosh...but Green is the better FIT. It&#039;s not always about pure talent, people (See the 2003-04 Lakers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green is not going anywhere. For the last time, you don&#8217;t trade the glue of your team and your superstar&#8217;s BFF for a minimal (yes, I said it) upgrade. If you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s minimal, just read the next couple paragraphs about how &#8220;great&#8221; Bosh was last year. Green&#8217;s staying put. End of story. </p>
<p><a href="#comment-27736" rel="nofollow">@Kev </a><br />
And I&#8217;m sorry, but a team does get better without trading all the time; it&#8217;s called player development. And if you guys don&#8217;t think Bosh doesn&#8217;t have holes in his game then you simply didn&#8217;t watch much Raptors ball last year. There&#8217;s a reason Toronto only won 33 GAMES last year people.</p>
<p>Bosh is not as much of an upgrade over Jeff Green as everyone here seems to think; he&#8217;s a career 19 and 9.5 guy who will always be the second best player on a contender, or the best player on a middle of the pack playoff team. Given Green&#8217;s ability to play multiple positions and his wide ranging skill set, not to mention the fact that he&#8217;s the guy who does all the dirty work and is great at playing second or third fiddle without complaining&#8230;and Presti would be crazy to trade him for Bosh (do you really think Bosh wouldn&#8217;t make a stink about being #2 in OKC to Durant, really?)</p>
<p>And all that to say, I love Bosh&#8230;but Green is the better FIT. It&#8217;s not always about pure talent, people (See the 2003-04 Lakers).</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would we even be able to resign him knowing that we have to max KD and get pretty close to maxing Westbrook in a couple years.  I know that seems a while off, but Bosh will want a long contract.  I just don&#039;t see how this helps our &quot;natural progression&quot;.  It seems like we&#039;d be going from 2nd gear straight to 5th gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would we even be able to resign him knowing that we have to max KD and get pretty close to maxing Westbrook in a couple years.  I know that seems a while off, but Bosh will want a long contract.  I just don&#8217;t see how this helps our &#8220;natural progression&#8221;.  It seems like we&#8217;d be going from 2nd gear straight to 5th gear.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bosh is a great basketball move for this team. I know Green and KD are friends, but so are KD, Russell, Weaver, and likely Harden. Would it be hard to see a friend leave? Sure, but even the most optimistic of players has to realize they people they come into the league with very likely won&#039;t be the people they end their careers with. I really like Green as a person, but Bosh is a better player. It&#039;s not like the Billups trade last year where the rest of the guys went into a tailspin without him. Those guys had played together for most of their long careers, had won a championship and fought in the playoffs together. I don&#039;t think Bosh is some pariah or jerk, and winning can heal a lot of wounds for players as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bosh is a great basketball move for this team. I know Green and KD are friends, but so are KD, Russell, Weaver, and likely Harden. Would it be hard to see a friend leave? Sure, but even the most optimistic of players has to realize they people they come into the league with very likely won&#8217;t be the people they end their careers with. I really like Green as a person, but Bosh is a better player. It&#8217;s not like the Billups trade last year where the rest of the guys went into a tailspin without him. Those guys had played together for most of their long careers, had won a championship and fought in the playoffs together. I don&#8217;t think Bosh is some pariah or jerk, and winning can heal a lot of wounds for players as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We won&#039;t get better unless we trade - you have to give up something to get something.  Despite all the love for Green, he does have holes in his game - Bosh is a better fit.  We&#039;d be silly not to make that trade . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We won&#8217;t get better unless we trade &#8211; you have to give up something to get something.  Despite all the love for Green, he does have holes in his game &#8211; Bosh is a better fit.  We&#8217;d be silly not to make that trade . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Cpt. C-Note</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpt. C-Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;8. No Earl Watson!
Did you grow frustrated last season watching Earl dribble to an elbow with 18 on the shot clock and hoist an ugly jumper, which inevitably clanked back-iron? Me too! That’s why I slaughtered a lamb in celebration and thanks the day Presti bought out his contract.&quot;


This alone has MY Thunder up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;8. No Earl Watson!<br />
Did you grow frustrated last season watching Earl dribble to an elbow with 18 on the shot clock and hoist an ugly jumper, which inevitably clanked back-iron? Me too! That’s why I slaughtered a lamb in celebration and thanks the day Presti bought out his contract.&#8221;</p>
<p>This alone has MY Thunder up!</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, after second thought, something does seem to be messed up with the Trade Machine.  I tried a few more and each trade improved every team by 24 wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, after second thought, something does seem to be messed up with the Trade Machine.  I tried a few more and each trade improved every team by 24 wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Dai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think the trade machine has gone nuts. How can everyone benefit? I posted this trade on Welcome to Loud City a few days ago. By trading Collison and White for Azuibuke and Turiaf the Thunder are to improve by 41 wins.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykg39of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think the trade machine has gone nuts. How can everyone benefit? I posted this trade on Welcome to Loud City a few days ago. By trading Collison and White for Azuibuke and Turiaf the Thunder are to improve by 41 wins.</p>
<p><a href="http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykg39of" rel="nofollow">http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykg39of</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been playing with the ESPN Trade Machine.  According to it, you could trade Krstic and Etan Thomas for Bosh...and both teams would be better off.  

In reality, I think we would have a hard time trading for Bosh unless they are ready to rebuild with picks.  Going out and signing Turkolu tells me they aren&#039;t ready to throw in the towel.  

Signing Bosh as a free-agent or doing a sign &amp; trade after the season is more likely.  That said, I don&#039;t think Presti will splurge that much on a player like Bosh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been playing with the ESPN Trade Machine.  According to it, you could trade Krstic and Etan Thomas for Bosh&#8230;and both teams would be better off.  </p>
<p>In reality, I think we would have a hard time trading for Bosh unless they are ready to rebuild with picks.  Going out and signing Turkolu tells me they aren&#8217;t ready to throw in the towel.  </p>
<p>Signing Bosh as a free-agent or doing a sign &amp; trade after the season is more likely.  That said, I don&#8217;t think Presti will splurge that much on a player like Bosh.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-27719&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27719&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keith&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-27712&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Vince&lt;/a&gt;
Bosh is better than Green. If we have good reason to believe he stays, we trade for him. If we don’t, we don’t.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds about right.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-27719" rel="nofollow">Keith</a> :</strong><br />
<a href="#comment-27712" rel="nofollow">@Vince</a><br />
Bosh is better than Green. If we have good reason to believe he stays, we trade for him. If we don’t, we don’t.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds about right.</p>
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