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		<title>By: Royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-28163&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alexfromgermany&lt;/a&gt; 
WELL DONE! Very nice. Big time props to you.</description>
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WELL DONE! Very nice. Big time props to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These teams average 2.7 guys making $4-8 million and that might be the more important slot to focus on. The Lakers the leader with 6. Ordinarily I don&#039;t think this is good strategy but they made it work- with their huge market resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These teams average 2.7 guys making $4-8 million and that might be the more important slot to focus on. The Lakers the leader with 6. Ordinarily I don&#8217;t think this is good strategy but they made it work- with their huge market resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are probably right Keith they&#039;ll spend if they feel it is paying off.

On $3 million guys, I think most are rookie contracts, bigs and PGs. Wings are probably the rarest to get that level money as there are so many semi-decent wings out there looking for work.

Looking at how many guys make $2.5-4 million on the best teams- Boston 5, Clev 4, Dallas 1, Houston 3, Lakers 0, New Orleans 1, Orlando 2, San Antonio 3, Utah 2, Denver 1. The average of these is 2.2 per team. Thunder have 3. But how many in the future? Maybe I made too much of it but it is a choice that was worth looking at and matters some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are probably right Keith they&#8217;ll spend if they feel it is paying off.</p>
<p>On $3 million guys, I think most are rookie contracts, bigs and PGs. Wings are probably the rarest to get that level money as there are so many semi-decent wings out there looking for work.</p>
<p>Looking at how many guys make $2.5-4 million on the best teams- Boston 5, Clev 4, Dallas 1, Houston 3, Lakers 0, New Orleans 1, Orlando 2, San Antonio 3, Utah 2, Denver 1. The average of these is 2.2 per team. Thunder have 3. But how many in the future? Maybe I made too much of it but it is a choice that was worth looking at and matters some.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax Raging Bile Duct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax Raging Bile Duct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hollinger had an article that pointed out how signing Thabo now will save us cap space next year due to the cap holds. It made lots of sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollinger had an article that pointed out how signing Thabo now will save us cap space next year due to the cap holds. It made lots of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-28176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Crow&lt;/a&gt; 
If the Thunder truly believe they are playoff and title contenders in the years to come, I can&#039;t imagine they stay at the bottom of the league spending list. That said, even if they do, it won&#039;t be Thabo needed to be pushed out, it will be Green, Durant, or Westbrook, guys who will be rolling in big contracts down the line.</description>
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If the Thunder truly believe they are playoff and title contenders in the years to come, I can&#8217;t imagine they stay at the bottom of the league spending list. That said, even if they do, it won&#8217;t be Thabo needed to be pushed out, it will be Green, Durant, or Westbrook, guys who will be rolling in big contracts down the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$3 million for a big is more understandable than a wing but yeah you can afford one or a few of these. But not a lot, later. Especially if you stay at the very bottom of the league spending list.  But he could eventually be a trade piece in a year or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$3 million for a big is more understandable than a wing but yeah you can afford one or a few of these. But not a lot, later. Especially if you stay at the very bottom of the league spending list.  But he could eventually be a trade piece in a year or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-28154&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Crow&lt;/a&gt; 
The new CBA may do a lot about 3.5 million per year guys, but I honestly doubt it. Right now, 3.5 million is nothing. Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox (well below average players with zero upside)are making 4 and 3 million repectively. Pretty much everyone not playing on the league minimum with any shot of being useful makes 4 million. I&#039;m not sold on him as a starter until he consistently can make open shots, but for an average of about 3.5 million, we can afford him on the bench easily.</description>
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The new CBA may do a lot about 3.5 million per year guys, but I honestly doubt it. Right now, 3.5 million is nothing. Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox (well below average players with zero upside)are making 4 and 3 million repectively. Pretty much everyone not playing on the league minimum with any shot of being useful makes 4 million. I&#8217;m not sold on him as a starter until he consistently can make open shots, but for an average of about 3.5 million, we can afford him on the bench easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexfromgermany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexfromgermany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alright this is what i got from the thunder tv broadcast


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Q-5oIQ4oQ

i guess you were looking for this second video, which is not complete unfortunately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCFgtIesI

Better than nothing though for now. It was more of a hassle than i thought it would be so feel free to donate at a-klaas AT upb.de :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alright this is what i got from the thunder tv broadcast</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Q-5oIQ4oQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Q-5oIQ4oQ</a></p>
<p>i guess you were looking for this second video, which is not complete unfortunately:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCFgtIesI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCFgtIesI</a></p>
<p>Better than nothing though for now. It was more of a hassle than i thought it would be so feel free to donate at a-klaas AT upb.de :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Dylan, Dahntay Jones is overrated defensively. Defensive Adjusted +/- has him as a -2, below average defender.

The Sefolosha contract isn&#039;t a clear good thing or bad thing yet. But $3 million a year wings aren&#039;t that common really and will probably become rarer in this market and the next CBA. Most players who are good will get more. Run of the mill players will get a lot less. Thabo has to fit pretty well to make good sense.

Presti was simply unwilling to let him be the first out the door as he would have surely tried to be next summer for playing time (with Harden coming up) and other things.  Would another team offer more than they did right now? I doubt it but that is hard to say right now. Only takes one. The next season does still matter as to who he is, what he can do. Maybe. Without a jump up though he isn&#039;t that special so far with his negative offensive impact bigger than his positive defensive impact on Adjusted not just for a season but for his career to date. 

The Thabo deal is less than Presti offer CJ Miles last summer. Both actions suggest to me some concern abut the ability to compete for free agents.

In the end it is really just like paying a fairly high draft pick early on a rookie contract though.

Ultimately he has to fit somewhere. Whether it is with the starters or off the bench. I think it is still more likely the latter.

Of the player pairs that were –10 or worse on raw +/- last season only three remain possible, still have both players here  necessary to field them. And guess what?  Brooks&#039; starting lineup has all three of them in it-   Durant-Sefolosha, Green-Sefolosha and Durant-Krstic. When Brooks says he doesn’t use +/- much I believe him. But either he’ll be right or wrong to fly in the face of what those pairs did last season. Brooks made this one of the ten most used lineups in the league in game 1.  It worked but against a  weak opponent. Time will tell if it works better than it did last season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Dylan, Dahntay Jones is overrated defensively. Defensive Adjusted +/- has him as a -2, below average defender.</p>
<p>The Sefolosha contract isn&#8217;t a clear good thing or bad thing yet. But $3 million a year wings aren&#8217;t that common really and will probably become rarer in this market and the next CBA. Most players who are good will get more. Run of the mill players will get a lot less. Thabo has to fit pretty well to make good sense.</p>
<p>Presti was simply unwilling to let him be the first out the door as he would have surely tried to be next summer for playing time (with Harden coming up) and other things.  Would another team offer more than they did right now? I doubt it but that is hard to say right now. Only takes one. The next season does still matter as to who he is, what he can do. Maybe. Without a jump up though he isn&#8217;t that special so far with his negative offensive impact bigger than his positive defensive impact on Adjusted not just for a season but for his career to date. </p>
<p>The Thabo deal is less than Presti offer CJ Miles last summer. Both actions suggest to me some concern abut the ability to compete for free agents.</p>
<p>In the end it is really just like paying a fairly high draft pick early on a rookie contract though.</p>
<p>Ultimately he has to fit somewhere. Whether it is with the starters or off the bench. I think it is still more likely the latter.</p>
<p>Of the player pairs that were –10 or worse on raw +/- last season only three remain possible, still have both players here  necessary to field them. And guess what?  Brooks&#8217; starting lineup has all three of them in it-   Durant-Sefolosha, Green-Sefolosha and Durant-Krstic. When Brooks says he doesn’t use +/- much I believe him. But either he’ll be right or wrong to fly in the face of what those pairs did last season. Brooks made this one of the ten most used lineups in the league in game 1.  It worked but against a  weak opponent. Time will tell if it works better than it did last season.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexfromgermany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexfromgermany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can try to grab it from the nba league pass broadcast, it was in there wasnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can try to grab it from the nba league pass broadcast, it was in there wasnt it?</p>
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