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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday Bolts &#8211; 7.8.09</title>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;ll say that I mostly took mid-rangers because I never played with a 3 point line. If there was I would have tried to be good at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ll say that I mostly took mid-rangers because I never played with a 3 point line. If there was I would have tried to be good at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright J.G.  What position / role did you play? 

Both raw and adjusted can be of some value though they can mislead too. They are just pieces of the overall puzzle.
It can recognize and reward players who are good teammates.


In case it sounded odd to anyone I took mid to deep turn-around jumpers because I never trusted my handle, needed to do things differently for rhythm and separation to get my fairly slow shot off clean. Sorta of a post player with PG height. A poor poor version of Tim Duncan moved 5-10 feet far out. But I could hit 12-19 foot turnaround wing jumpers from my favorite spots all day- unguarded, even with eyes closed to win some Horse games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright J.G.  What position / role did you play? </p>
<p>Both raw and adjusted can be of some value though they can mislead too. They are just pieces of the overall puzzle.<br />
It can recognize and reward players who are good teammates.</p>
<p>In case it sounded odd to anyone I took mid to deep turn-around jumpers because I never trusted my handle, needed to do things differently for rhythm and separation to get my fairly slow shot off clean. Sorta of a post player with PG height. A poor poor version of Tim Duncan moved 5-10 feet far out. But I could hit 12-19 foot turnaround wing jumpers from my favorite spots all day- unguarded, even with eyes closed to win some Horse games.</p>
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		<title>By: J.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-15846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Crow &lt;/a&gt; 
You know, I&#039;d actually be kind of interested to see what my +/- would be in a game of basketball and how my box score would read.

Haven&#039;t looked at one with my name on it since high school!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-15846" rel="nofollow">@Crow </a><br />
You know, I&#8217;d actually be kind of interested to see what my +/- would be in a game of basketball and how my box score would read.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t looked at one with my name on it since high school!</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand and am willing to take the mild needles.

dork, I only point out &quot;everybody&#039;s errors&quot; with pro basketball. Points out what I think are errors is mainly about trying to fully understand what happened and how to get better. I think observers have that right. I&#039;ll point out good things too if I think they&#039;ve gone unnoticed.  

In other things  I don&#039;t generally point out errors.
I might if politics came up, though these days pretty much only when asked.

In 5 on 5 pickup games, awhile ago for me, I just passed and played defense, doing pretty well against opponents far bigger and better. About as easy a teammate as you could have. In 2-2 or 3-3 half-court I&#039;d take my shots, usually mid-range to deep turn-arounds, often bank-shots.

As for adjusted plus-minus, I wouldn&#039;t mess with it nick unless guys were serious and trying to win something bad. Like I assume Presti &amp; Co. want to get a playoff berth and go up from there. You don&#039;t get there with just a design, good vibes and effort. They&#039;ll almost certainly have to see and fix some things.  I understand I dwell on that part and it is in part because I leave the optimism to those in the position to feel that and play that role. I did more of that back when they were the Sonics.  

I am not intimidated by the insiders and don&#039;t necessarily think they are as wise / smart as some assume or grant. As I&#039;ve said I&#039;ll probably fade back or out at some point. But I still like analyzing basketball and this is a pretty good spot for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and am willing to take the mild needles.</p>
<p>dork, I only point out &#8220;everybody&#8217;s errors&#8221; with pro basketball. Points out what I think are errors is mainly about trying to fully understand what happened and how to get better. I think observers have that right. I&#8217;ll point out good things too if I think they&#8217;ve gone unnoticed.  </p>
<p>In other things  I don&#8217;t generally point out errors.<br />
I might if politics came up, though these days pretty much only when asked.</p>
<p>In 5 on 5 pickup games, awhile ago for me, I just passed and played defense, doing pretty well against opponents far bigger and better. About as easy a teammate as you could have. In 2-2 or 3-3 half-court I&#8217;d take my shots, usually mid-range to deep turn-arounds, often bank-shots.</p>
<p>As for adjusted plus-minus, I wouldn&#8217;t mess with it nick unless guys were serious and trying to win something bad. Like I assume Presti &amp; Co. want to get a playoff berth and go up from there. You don&#8217;t get there with just a design, good vibes and effort. They&#8217;ll almost certainly have to see and fix some things.  I understand I dwell on that part and it is in part because I leave the optimism to those in the position to feel that and play that role. I did more of that back when they were the Sonics.  </p>
<p>I am not intimidated by the insiders and don&#8217;t necessarily think they are as wise / smart as some assume or grant. As I&#8217;ve said I&#8217;ll probably fade back or out at some point. But I still like analyzing basketball and this is a pretty good spot for it.</p>
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		<title>By: dork</title>
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		<dc:creator>dork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-15639&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@tbird26p &lt;/a&gt; 

I think its a good move to bring him over. The over seas game is different than NBA, We are not straining for roster spots. And if nothing else its an athletic body with 6 fouls to give. Also I think Brooks and staff will help him more than if he stayed overseas.</description>
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<p>I think its a good move to bring him over. The over seas game is different than NBA, We are not straining for roster spots. And if nothing else its an athletic body with 6 fouls to give. Also I think Brooks and staff will help him more than if he stayed overseas.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Royce on forum predelictions.  I&#039;m Choda Boy on that forum, by the by.  Smart and cool people will know that Choda Boy is of course the side kick to Orgazmo, the missioning mormon crime fighting porno star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Royce on forum predelictions.  I&#8217;m Choda Boy on that forum, by the by.  Smart and cool people will know that Choda Boy is of course the side kick to Orgazmo, the missioning mormon crime fighting porno star.</p>
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		<title>By: tbird26p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbird26p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should have let Ibaka stay overseas one more year to develop more. Give him some more time to polish his game and get older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should have let Ibaka stay overseas one more year to develop more. Give him some more time to polish his game and get older.</p>
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		<title>By: dork</title>
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		<dc:creator>dork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh the DnG are on fire today... &quot;robert swift showing his range... I really wish he wouldn&#039;t have done that.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh the DnG are on fire today&#8230; &#8220;robert swift showing his range&#8230; I really wish he wouldn&#8217;t have done that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-15633&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Porkchop&lt;/a&gt; 
Of course I have. I&#039;ve posted there a time or two, but that was a while ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-15633" rel="nofollow">@Porkchop</a><br />
Of course I have. I&#8217;ve posted there a time or two, but that was a while ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, it&#039;s cool.  I&#039;ll let this one pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it&#8217;s cool.  I&#8217;ll let this one pass.</p>
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