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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harden could be the worst pick in the history of the nba everyone got better cept us ibaka might work out in the long run cant see drafting a twelth man type talen like harden</description>
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		<title>By: Cpt. C-Note</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpt. C-Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16791&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Blake &lt;/a&gt; 
I&#039;m being very optomistic with my picks, but your probably right about Mullins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16791" rel="nofollow">@Blake </a><br />
I&#8217;m being very optomistic with my picks, but your probably right about Mullins.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Vince &lt;/a&gt; 
For what it is worth (which is probably not much)the two substitute talking heads on Pardon the Interruption both said they thought the Magic matched Dalla&#039; offer to trade him down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16793" rel="nofollow">@Vince </a><br />
For what it is worth (which is probably not much)the two substitute talking heads on Pardon the Interruption both said they thought the Magic matched Dalla&#8217; offer to trade him down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Vince &lt;/a&gt; 
As far as I know, and I am becomming borderline obsessive about following this stuff, we never made an offer for Gortat, which was odd because Presti was reported to have called him after midnight when free agents became available.  My theory is that he didn&#039;t try to out-bid Dallas because he doesn&#039;t want to pay any more for Gortat than he has to, and he realized that the Magic would prefer to get something for their restricted free agent, rather than nothing.  If he had offered 7mill per year, instead of the 6 something that Dallas could offer- we would now be in Dallas&#039; shoes as the ONLY team that has no chance of adding Gortat to their roster this year.  Don&#039;t know if this is what Presti is doing- bastard won&#039;t return my phone calls- but it would actually make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16793" rel="nofollow">@Vince </a><br />
As far as I know, and I am becomming borderline obsessive about following this stuff, we never made an offer for Gortat, which was odd because Presti was reported to have called him after midnight when free agents became available.  My theory is that he didn&#8217;t try to out-bid Dallas because he doesn&#8217;t want to pay any more for Gortat than he has to, and he realized that the Magic would prefer to get something for their restricted free agent, rather than nothing.  If he had offered 7mill per year, instead of the 6 something that Dallas could offer- we would now be in Dallas&#8217; shoes as the ONLY team that has no chance of adding Gortat to their roster this year.  Don&#8217;t know if this is what Presti is doing- bastard won&#8217;t return my phone calls- but it would actually make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Vince &lt;/a&gt; 
or presti talked to otis smith. i don&#039;t know if smith is incredibly smart, but its possible he orchestrated this really well. 1, he could have to told presti that he was going to match anyway. 2, he knew the mavs were going to offer the full MLE. so he asks presti to back off and let the mavs offer the money and allows them to think that he won&#039;t match, so that the magic can sign bass unopposed. then he trades gortat to the thunder and actually gets something for him. so not only does he get the player he wanted (bass) by letting the mavs think he wouldn&#039;t match, he gets something for gortat and doesn&#039;t have to pay him. maybe not, but its plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16793" rel="nofollow">@Vince </a><br />
or presti talked to otis smith. i don&#8217;t know if smith is incredibly smart, but its possible he orchestrated this really well. 1, he could have to told presti that he was going to match anyway. 2, he knew the mavs were going to offer the full MLE. so he asks presti to back off and let the mavs offer the money and allows them to think that he won&#8217;t match, so that the magic can sign bass unopposed. then he trades gortat to the thunder and actually gets something for him. so not only does he get the player he wanted (bass) by letting the mavs think he wouldn&#8217;t match, he gets something for gortat and doesn&#8217;t have to pay him. maybe not, but its plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16787&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve H&lt;/a&gt; 
Ok, so we&#039;re going to trade for Gortat because:

1. Presti didn&#039;t make an offer during the FA period, when he could have gotten Gortat without giving up any draft picks, figuring that he could just trade for him later and give up players and/or picks.

2. Presti made an offer, which wasn&#039;t as high as the Mavs&#039; offer, then decided that he might as well pay more money than he originally offered and give up players and/or picks as well.

3. Presti made an offer, which Gortat declined because he didn&#039;t want to play here, so Presti decided that he might as well trade for the guy with a five-year guaranteed deal who doesn&#039;t want to play here.  

Any of those scenarios make any sense? There&#039;s a reason that restricted FA&#039;s walk every year. If it was as simple as just keep the asset and trade him, everyone would just match the offer sheet, wait three months, and dump that player for whatever they could get. 

I understand that it doesn&#039;t seem to make sense that the Magic are keeping Gortat. If you think they&#039;ll trade him in 2011 -- when they may want to re-sign Carter or re-load around Howard without paying tax -- I don&#039;t think that&#039;s at all farfetched. But the Magic have said they&#039;re willing to pay the tax. They have playoff revenue from last year, projected playoff revenue from this year and a brand new arena next year. They said they&#039;re going for it for the next few years. I wanted Gortat, too, but he ain&#039;t coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16787" rel="nofollow">@Steve H</a><br />
Ok, so we&#8217;re going to trade for Gortat because:</p>
<p>1. Presti didn&#8217;t make an offer during the FA period, when he could have gotten Gortat without giving up any draft picks, figuring that he could just trade for him later and give up players and/or picks.</p>
<p>2. Presti made an offer, which wasn&#8217;t as high as the Mavs&#8217; offer, then decided that he might as well pay more money than he originally offered and give up players and/or picks as well.</p>
<p>3. Presti made an offer, which Gortat declined because he didn&#8217;t want to play here, so Presti decided that he might as well trade for the guy with a five-year guaranteed deal who doesn&#8217;t want to play here.  </p>
<p>Any of those scenarios make any sense? There&#8217;s a reason that restricted FA&#8217;s walk every year. If it was as simple as just keep the asset and trade him, everyone would just match the offer sheet, wait three months, and dump that player for whatever they could get. </p>
<p>I understand that it doesn&#8217;t seem to make sense that the Magic are keeping Gortat. If you think they&#8217;ll trade him in 2011 &#8212; when they may want to re-sign Carter or re-load around Howard without paying tax &#8212; I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s at all farfetched. But the Magic have said they&#8217;re willing to pay the tax. They have playoff revenue from last year, projected playoff revenue from this year and a brand new arena next year. They said they&#8217;re going for it for the next few years. I wanted Gortat, too, but he ain&#8217;t coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;ya say we sign Ben Wallace? For around.. close to nothing.</description>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way mullins makes the rookie team. I dont know if the d-league has an all-star game but if they do he wont make that either. I agree on the others though.</description>
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		<title>By: Cpt. C-Note</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpt. C-Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16785&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Wilson &lt;/a&gt; 
I feel the same way.
 I trust Presti has a long-term plan for a starting center, but I have no idea who it would be. He seems to want younger players for the long term, so I&#039;d count Odem out of OKC. (He&#039;d never want to come here, anyways.)</description>
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I feel the same way.<br />
 I trust Presti has a long-term plan for a starting center, but I have no idea who it would be. He seems to want younger players for the long term, so I&#8217;d count Odem out of OKC. (He&#8217;d never want to come here, anyways.)</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16787&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve H &lt;/a&gt; 
agreed. sorry to vince for the poorly thought out post saying that they would want an expiring contract. but there are things that we could offer them</description>
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agreed. sorry to vince for the poorly thought out post saying that they would want an expiring contract. but there are things that we could offer them</p>
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