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	<title>Comments on: Thunder deals Wilkins and Atkins for Etan Thomas and picks</title>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18437&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@D-Money &lt;/a&gt; 
I assume the Hornets got Okafor to play him, but I would LOVE it if we could somehow pry him away.  Don&#039;t know if trade rules would allow them to move him again, or allow NO to dump salary on us, but I will sign your petition.  Collison and picks for Okafur?  Collison and Thomas and picks for Okafur and Mo Pete?  Okafor and Peja?  For my money, that guy would represent the final piece in the Thunder puzzle, and would be worth over paying for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18437" rel="nofollow">@D-Money </a><br />
I assume the Hornets got Okafor to play him, but I would LOVE it if we could somehow pry him away.  Don&#8217;t know if trade rules would allow them to move him again, or allow NO to dump salary on us, but I will sign your petition.  Collison and picks for Okafur?  Collison and Thomas and picks for Okafur and Mo Pete?  Okafor and Peja?  For my money, that guy would represent the final piece in the Thunder puzzle, and would be worth over paying for.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price of 2nd round picks has crept up. It was $500-750,000 a few years ago but some teams may have paid up to $1.5 mil this season from snippets I have read, though it is hard to know what is accurate.  High second round picks are often being treated like 1st rounders, sometimes better, due to not being required to go on the rookie contract but being able to offer as many years as you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price of 2nd round picks has crept up. It was $500-750,000 a few years ago but some teams may have paid up to $1.5 mil this season from snippets I have read, though it is hard to know what is accurate.  High second round picks are often being treated like 1st rounders, sometimes better, due to not being required to go on the rookie contract but being able to offer as many years as you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax Raging Bile Duct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax Raging Bile Duct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18457&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Clark Matthews&lt;/a&gt; 

I knew 3 mill was the max cash limit, but didn&#039;t realize teams wouldn&#039;t ask for the full amount past the first round. Of course, now that I look for an actual dollar amount, I can only find &quot;cash considerations&quot; as the traded asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18457" rel="nofollow">@Clark Matthews</a> </p>
<p>I knew 3 mill was the max cash limit, but didn&#8217;t realize teams wouldn&#8217;t ask for the full amount past the first round. Of course, now that I look for an actual dollar amount, I can only find &#8220;cash considerations&#8221; as the traded asset.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18443&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18443&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jax Raging Bile Duct &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;Fourth, you keep saying we paid 3.5 mill for two second rounders. Do you realize we bought Vaden as a 2nd round pick this past draft? It’s common to buy a 2nd round pick for 3 mill.
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Actually, you quoted the price for a first round pick (the maximum amount of cash that can exchange hands in a deal).  I imagine second round picks are much less expensive.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-18443" rel="nofollow">Jax Raging Bile Duct </a> :</strong>&lt;Fourth, you keep saying we paid 3.5 mill for two second rounders. Do you realize we bought Vaden as a 2nd round pick this past draft? It’s common to buy a 2nd round pick for 3 mill.
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<p>Actually, you quoted the price for a first round pick (the maximum amount of cash that can exchange hands in a deal).  I imagine second round picks are much less expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18396&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gar &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;This makes me wonder why Etan’s contract will be easy to flip at the deadline, but Watson’s wouldn’t have been. Anyone know?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know that Watson&#039;s contract would have been hard to flip, but keeping him on the team with what, I have to assume, was becoming a surlier attitude by the day, would have been more than it was worth to hold onto.

The really nice part of Thomas&#039; contract for trading puroposes, as opposed to holding onto Atkins and Wilkins, is that it is much easier to trade one person once the season has begun than multiple people.  Once rosters are limited to fifteen players, sending out more players than you are receiving is difficult.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-18396" rel="nofollow">Gar </a> :</strong>This makes me wonder why Etan’s contract will be easy to flip at the deadline, but Watson’s wouldn’t have been. Anyone know?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that Watson&#8217;s contract would have been hard to flip, but keeping him on the team with what, I have to assume, was becoming a surlier attitude by the day, would have been more than it was worth to hold onto.</p>
<p>The really nice part of Thomas&#8217; contract for trading puroposes, as opposed to holding onto Atkins and Wilkins, is that it is much easier to trade one person once the season has begun than multiple people.  Once rosters are limited to fifteen players, sending out more players than you are receiving is difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Vega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone considered that Wilkins might not have accepted a buyout? Remember, he really sucks, so he&#039;s going to try to get as much money now as possible because this is probably his last NBA contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone considered that Wilkins might not have accepted a buyout? Remember, he really sucks, so he&#8217;s going to try to get as much money now as possible because this is probably his last NBA contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax Raging Bile Duct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax Raging Bile Duct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@justin&lt;/a&gt; 

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re hearing what we&#039;re trying to say bro.

Crow said first that we&#039;ve been shopping guys like Watson, Atkins and Wilkins for a while now, and there have been no bites. It&#039;s no surprise that the team that finally bit on the deal traded us a guy who&#039;s never played for them before.

Second, it&#039;s much easier to move a single contract than it is multiple contracts, and Etan&#039;s is expiring.

Third, you have one bench spot taken with a non-producer, not two. That alone is worth millions.

Fourth, you keep saying we paid 3.5 mill for two second rounders. Do you realize we bought Vaden as a 2nd round pick this past draft? It&#039;s common to buy a 2nd round pick for 3 mill.

The real value in this trade is the open roster spot and the easier to move expiring contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18432" rel="nofollow">@justin</a> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re hearing what we&#8217;re trying to say bro.</p>
<p>Crow said first that we&#8217;ve been shopping guys like Watson, Atkins and Wilkins for a while now, and there have been no bites. It&#8217;s no surprise that the team that finally bit on the deal traded us a guy who&#8217;s never played for them before.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s much easier to move a single contract than it is multiple contracts, and Etan&#8217;s is expiring.</p>
<p>Third, you have one bench spot taken with a non-producer, not two. That alone is worth millions.</p>
<p>Fourth, you keep saying we paid 3.5 mill for two second rounders. Do you realize we bought Vaden as a 2nd round pick this past draft? It&#8217;s common to buy a 2nd round pick for 3 mill.</p>
<p>The real value in this trade is the open roster spot and the easier to move expiring contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18436&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@D-Money &lt;/a&gt; 
Don&#039;t worry. I think I can get us to 40.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18436" rel="nofollow">@D-Money </a><br />
Don&#8217;t worry. I think I can get us to 40.</p>
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		<title>By: D-Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW anyone think there is any merit to the thought that Etan could go in a trade to NO for okafor? This would help out their financial situation... or I could not know what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW anyone think there is any merit to the thought that Etan could go in a trade to NO for okafor? This would help out their financial situation&#8230; or I could not know what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: D-Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jax Raging Bile Duct

You have a point about the jokes being awful if we use a D-Leaguer as a scape-goat. We can always use Royce though because he didn&#039;t will our team to victory and technically he is not one of us ordinary folk since he runs the site. @Royce it&#039;s all on you to will us to 35+ wins this season...get on it ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jax Raging Bile Duct</p>
<p>You have a point about the jokes being awful if we use a D-Leaguer as a scape-goat. We can always use Royce though because he didn&#8217;t will our team to victory and technically he is not one of us ordinary folk since he runs the site. @Royce it&#8217;s all on you to will us to 35+ wins this season&#8230;get on it ;).</p>
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