Comments on: Tuesday Bolts – Big Whiskey Edition

By: Crow

Crow — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:57:58 +0000

with regars to Sam Young
“But it he’d try hard” should have been “but if he didn’t try hard”

Sorry I am a somewhat sloppy or dyslexic typer.

By: Crow

Crow — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:54:47 +0000

If the agility test is a good test of effort then Jordan Hill as dead last is a bit of a concern that reinforces some subjective commentary.

By: Crow

Crow — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:53:29 +0000

Sam Young 3rd slowest of all on sprint and bottom 20% on agility. But it he’d try hard or train right it might not be an accurate gauge. You’d want to see it to interpret the results. And is already 24. Another SF? I can’t see him being the pick.

Hansbrough has the necessary basic athleticism. Maybe it is just stringing it together repetitively.

Pendergraph 9th fastest sprint (just behind Harden) and the fastest guy over 6’9. But strangely the 3rd worst on agility. Maybe he mistimed something or maybe turning is just different and harder for him than sprinting.

Harden did fine as noted before.

By: Jax Raging Bile Duct

Jax Raging Bile Duct — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:09:57 +0000

@Joe Aye aye captain.

By: J.G.

J.G. — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:46:00 +0000

Or NFL…either one really. :)

By: J.G.

J.G. — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:16:40 +0000

@Keith
I meant the same correlation regarding athletic testing results (40 yard dash, 3/4 sprint) and how they translate to the player’s actual ability to be a good player, i.e., just because the guy can jump higher and run faster, doesn’t mean he’s automatically going to be the a great NFL or NBA player.

Thus, both combines really only deal in absolutes regarding the measurements and are used more as measuring sticks (no pun intended) than hard and fast assessments, as in if you’re measured at 6’0 in the NBA combine, you’re not tall enough to play anything other than PG (generally, there are always exceptions). Just like if you can’t run faster than a 4.8 40, you won’t be playing cornerback in the NBA.

By: Keith

Keith — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:05:09 +0000

I don’t think the NBA and NFL Combines have the same correlation. For one, NBA teams only expect 1-3 really good players per draft. In the NFL, teams expect to find starter worthy players as late as the 4th round. Also, the up and down shift of players isn’t as great in the NBA as in the NFL. A guy can go from 25th to 5th in the NFL with a huge combine. Even with a huge combine, guys in the NBA draft don’t move up considerably. If you aren’t in the top 10 range, you’re not going to suddenly jump into the top 3. If you’re not in the top 20 range, you won’t suddenly be top 10. Well at least not because of the combine.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:53:09 +0000

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
Hey Jax, could I get your email?

joenewell66@gmail.com

Thanks.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:52:19 +0000

I’d be very happy with either Harden or Curry. I am favoring Harden right now because of his height and newfound athleticism, and the fact that Curry seems to insist that he is a point guard when we already have one. But, many teams have had success with a sort of two point guard lineup, or two combo guard lineup, like the old Celtics with Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge.

I really think somebody would get a steal if they grab Jeff Pendergraph late in the first. I think he has the length and reach and the athleticism to play some Center. He was the most efficient scoring big man in the country last year and he’s a great per minute rebounder.

I also like Luke Harangody in the late first or early second. Portland has 4 second round picks and they can’t possibly use them all.

By: J.G.

J.G. — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:00:43 +0000

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
Bout the same correlation in the NBA as the NFL Combine (all the best athletic scores don’t mean you’re a good PLAYER), but the main reason why so many of us are so surprised is because, this is the first year where so many “very skilled players” who were supposed to be “below average athletes” and who were expected to do below average on their athletic tests, instead outperformed the players who were supposed to be the super athletes.

Or basically, the players who’s major question marks (or even negatives/weaknesses) were athleticism but were considered the highest skilled players in the draft with the highest IQ’s, actually are some of the most athletic as well. And the “upside” guys that were supposed to be the most raw and powerfully strong and explosive and fast guys from their pure athleticism, actually turned out to be average and lesser athletes than the those guys with “athleticism” question marks.

The only reason this is significant is because athleticism is usually a huge negative or positive in terms of upside and translating to the NBA (the whole, well he’ll be able to get away with that in college, but in the pro’s)…but in this draft, it just so happens that the highest skilled guys happen to be the better athletes as well.