Comments on: The Trap and Myth of the Next http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:11:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: kenneth http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10504 kenneth Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:45:19 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10504 I saw a sta comparison and Kevin Durants(statistically) as a SF version of Kobe Bryant, Russ was a more athletic Mike Bibby, and Jeff was a poor man's Lamar Odom, I saw a sta comparison and Kevin Durants(statistically) as a SF version of Kobe Bryant, Russ was a more athletic Mike Bibby, and Jeff was a poor man’s Lamar Odom,

]]> By: kenneth http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10503 kenneth Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:44:51 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10503 I saw a sta comparison and Kevin Durants,statistically) as a SF version of Kobe Bryant, Russ was a more athletic Mike Bibby, and Jeff was a poor man's Lamar Odom, I saw a sta comparison and Kevin Durants,statistically) as a SF version of Kobe Bryant, Russ was a more athletic Mike Bibby, and Jeff was a poor man’s Lamar Odom,

]]> By: James http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10305 James Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:16:49 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10305 A good read.......but Bogut is better now than Miller at his best, and still might be better than Vlade if he re-discovers the perimeter shot he had before leaving Australia. Despite him being a different player to both. A good read…….but Bogut is better now than Miller at his best, and still might be better than Vlade if he re-discovers the perimeter shot he had before leaving Australia. Despite him being a different player to both.

]]> By: Crow http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10298 Crow Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:57:25 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10298 Multi-position players can help with match-up flexibility and that is a nice extra but the quality of the guys at their main spot and the fit with the other main guys comes before sliding folks around based on the opponent. They need strong positive adjusted +/- and strong player pairs to be sliders. It is easier to simply try to find guys with specific skills and a position that make specific lineups work well. Just get something that works at lineup level and use it a lot. The finalists have a few multi position players and it is important but you gotta have some solid pieces too to slide around. Multi-position players can help with match-up flexibility and that is a nice extra but the quality of the guys at their main spot and the fit with the other main guys comes before sliding folks around based on the opponent. They need strong positive adjusted +/- and strong player pairs to be sliders. It is easier to simply try to find guys with specific skills and a position that make specific lineups work well. Just get something that works at lineup level and use it a lot. The finalists have a few multi position players and it is important but you gotta have some solid pieces too to slide around.

]]> By: Royce http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10294 Royce Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:04:34 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10294 <a href="#comment-10292" rel="nofollow">@Chas</a> It's a solid question. More than anything, I think Presti has a mold in which he's trying to build. He wants guys that can play different positions, can fit in different lineups and make the team as a whole, very versatile. He may have had visions of Durant at the two and Green at three, but obviously that's changed. And because he drafted guys that are able to adapt and move positions, he was able to drop Green to power forward and move Durant to three like it was no problem. Which again, I think is the whole idea - giving yourself room to move and play within your own lineup. At least that's the way I see it. Does that make sense? @Chas
It’s a solid question. More than anything, I think Presti has a mold in which he’s trying to build. He wants guys that can play different positions, can fit in different lineups and make the team as a whole, very versatile. He may have had visions of Durant at the two and Green at three, but obviously that’s changed. And because he drafted guys that are able to adapt and move positions, he was able to drop Green to power forward and move Durant to three like it was no problem. Which again, I think is the whole idea – giving yourself room to move and play within your own lineup.

At least that’s the way I see it. Does that make sense?

]]> By: Chas http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10292 Chas Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:52:18 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10292 This could a question to the audience or Royce. If Durant and Green are so similar, why would Presti pick them in the same draft? Do you think he had other intentions for them (trading one of them)? Did he think Durant would play SG and Green SF? Or is this exactly what he expected and we should stop worrying b/c in Presti we trust? This could a question to the audience or Royce. If Durant and Green are so similar, why would Presti pick them in the same draft? Do you think he had other intentions for them (trading one of them)? Did he think Durant would play SG and Green SF? Or is this exactly what he expected and we should stop worrying b/c in Presti we trust?

]]> By: Zach Harper http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10287 Zach Harper Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:30:38 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10287 Kevin Durant always reminded me of a really good Jonathan Bender. Kevin Durant always reminded me of a really good Jonathan Bender.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10275 Anonymous Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:16:01 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10275 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-10235"> <strong><a href="#comment-10235" rel="nofollow">Jordan </a> :</strong>To be fair to KJ, he did average 20 plus and 10 plus for nearly 6 seasons, and is a career 49 percent shooter. He didn’t get the 3 steals, but was always around 1.5-2. Sounds like a pretty good comparison to me.</blockquote> Definitely. If KJ had played with today's hand-check rules, then his numbers would have been ridiculous.

Jordan :To be fair to KJ, he did average 20 plus and 10 plus for nearly 6 seasons, and is a career 49 percent shooter. He didn’t get the 3 steals, but was always around 1.5-2. Sounds like a pretty good comparison to me.

Definitely. If KJ had played with today’s hand-check rules, then his numbers would have been ridiculous.

]]> By: Jax Raging Bile Duct http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10274 Jax Raging Bile Duct Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:54:04 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10274 I like Noah. I love his defensive intensity. I feel for the kid, because of all the mess coaching/staff-wise he's had to inherit so far. I like Noah. I love his defensive intensity. I feel for the kid, because of all the mess coaching/staff-wise he’s had to inherit so far.

]]> By: Crow http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/the-trap-and-myth-of-the-next/comment-page-1/#comment-10268 Crow Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:46:59 +0000 http://www.dailythunder.com/?p=2758#comment-10268 "Joakim Noah was tabbed “Marcus Camby meets Boris Diaw.” I have no idea what that means. Seriously, no clue. " If that means he rebounds and defends and plays a constructive role on offense then his first 2 seasons seem to have validated that perspective fairly well. Might be better at PF. This year's numbers say so but last season it was pretty much a draw. I liked him fairly well in the draft. Maybe he would have been a better pick than Green to play with Durant. I know that is a minority opinion. Wait n see in a few years. Will never know really though. “Joakim Noah was tabbed “Marcus Camby meets Boris Diaw.” I have no idea what that means. Seriously, no clue. ”

If that means he rebounds and defends and plays a constructive role on offense then his first 2 seasons seem to have validated that perspective fairly well. Might be better at PF. This year’s numbers say so but last season it was pretty much a draw.

I liked him fairly well in the draft. Maybe he would have been a better pick than Green to play with Durant. I know that is a minority opinion. Wait n see in a few years. Will never know really though.

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