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		<title>By: The dissection of Kevin Durant by the writer Henry Abbott &#124; Daily Thunder.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The dissection of Kevin Durant by the writer Henry Abbott &#124; Daily Thunder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mine on the bold. This topic has been covered around these parts as well. Now go read it. You&#8217;ll be a better person for it. And come back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ideally I&#039;d think you want to surround Durant with:

A vet PG who knows when to give him the ball &amp; where &amp; when and when not to. He should hit the 3 pointer and probably be a pest on defense so Durant man does not get easy access to the ball in good spots.  And instructs / encourages and / or yells at Durant to play defense.  They have Watson but that wasn&#039;t near enough on any criteria.

A volume 3 pt shooting SG. Ideally who can take the tougher wing on defense.  They have none of the former, especially in combination with the latter.

An inside scoring big that defenders can&#039;t leave to respond to Durant&#039;s penetration into the lane without getting hurt bad.  Don&#039;t got it unless White with health restored and weight room work gets back there. 

A 7 foot center with quick feet who plays like a veteran (probably will have to be one).  Krstic isn&#039;t bad but isn&#039;t great either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideally I&#8217;d think you want to surround Durant with:</p>
<p>A vet PG who knows when to give him the ball &amp; where &amp; when and when not to. He should hit the 3 pointer and probably be a pest on defense so Durant man does not get easy access to the ball in good spots.  And instructs / encourages and / or yells at Durant to play defense.  They have Watson but that wasn&#8217;t near enough on any criteria.</p>
<p>A volume 3 pt shooting SG. Ideally who can take the tougher wing on defense.  They have none of the former, especially in combination with the latter.</p>
<p>An inside scoring big that defenders can&#8217;t leave to respond to Durant&#8217;s penetration into the lane without getting hurt bad.  Don&#8217;t got it unless White with health restored and weight room work gets back there. </p>
<p>A 7 foot center with quick feet who plays like a veteran (probably will have to be one).  Krstic isn&#8217;t bad but isn&#8217;t great either.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durant is a test case for reading the stats.  It is hard to be sure of anything about his ultimate future impact yet but next season or two will probably firm it a lot.

He is the 6th highest on scoring and it holds up gets good teams where he is 5th best.

His raw +/- is very low. Against good teams he isn&#039;t the very bottom but he was 9th worst. (John Salmons, who Presti went after???  does he really understand player impact? was dead last on this.)  

His adjusted for last season was 13th lowest too.http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.php?year=2008-2009&amp;mode=summary&amp;sortnumber=94&amp;sortorder=ASC

Either Durant at this time is a big drag (on defense and close to  neutral on team impact on offense as his great stats seem to coincide with others doing a lot less) or his surrounding cast is completely wrong for him. The adjusted is intended to remove the impact of his cast and isolate h9is effect but it is far from solid and certain.

Look at Roland Ratings at 82 games (a combination of individual production against counterpart and team +/-) and Durant is a bit better than 0 and near average for main rotation guys. 

Which is right? Maybe none by themselves but I&#039;ll take the story provided by the combination over any one part.

I don&#039;t think Durant is as good overall both sides of the ball ( the way you have to play andf get rated fairly) as his big supporters think / expect. But I don&#039;t think he is as bad as his worst numbers now either. I do think his cast is significantly off, sub-optimal for him. Nothing in the numbers so far say that Green was the right Robin. Westbrook is not as bad but it isn&#039;t good with Durant either. Thabo is awful in player pairs with Durant. Krstic was quite weak too.   

Either Durant is a very difficult teammate or Presti is not a good lineup designer or Brooks is not a good coach or some combination. They probably get better with time but how much, how quick? And does one weak link doom them or gets changed out eventually? Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durant is a test case for reading the stats.  It is hard to be sure of anything about his ultimate future impact yet but next season or two will probably firm it a lot.</p>
<p>He is the 6th highest on scoring and it holds up gets good teams where he is 5th best.</p>
<p>His raw +/- is very low. Against good teams he isn&#8217;t the very bottom but he was 9th worst. (John Salmons, who Presti went after???  does he really understand player impact? was dead last on this.)  </p>
<p>His adjusted for last season was 13th lowest too.<a href="http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.php?year=2008-2009&#038;mode=summary&#038;sortnumber=94&#038;sortorder=ASC" rel="nofollow">http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.php?year=2008-2009&#038;mode=summary&#038;sortnumber=94&#038;sortorder=ASC</a></p>
<p>Either Durant at this time is a big drag (on defense and close to  neutral on team impact on offense as his great stats seem to coincide with others doing a lot less) or his surrounding cast is completely wrong for him. The adjusted is intended to remove the impact of his cast and isolate h9is effect but it is far from solid and certain.</p>
<p>Look at Roland Ratings at 82 games (a combination of individual production against counterpart and team +/-) and Durant is a bit better than 0 and near average for main rotation guys. </p>
<p>Which is right? Maybe none by themselves but I&#8217;ll take the story provided by the combination over any one part.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Durant is as good overall both sides of the ball ( the way you have to play andf get rated fairly) as his big supporters think / expect. But I don&#8217;t think he is as bad as his worst numbers now either. I do think his cast is significantly off, sub-optimal for him. Nothing in the numbers so far say that Green was the right Robin. Westbrook is not as bad but it isn&#8217;t good with Durant either. Thabo is awful in player pairs with Durant. Krstic was quite weak too.   </p>
<p>Either Durant is a very difficult teammate or Presti is not a good lineup designer or Brooks is not a good coach or some combination. They probably get better with time but how much, how quick? And does one weak link doom them or gets changed out eventually? Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: JZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Thunder&quot; are a better team without Durant. Nobody in the NBA has a more negative impact on their team than KD, as shown by 82games.com. They are 0.7 points were on offense when he is on the floor and 8.2 points worse on defense. His net plus-minus score of -8.9 is DEAD LAST in the NBA. Take a look at any boxscore from the season. Durant has the lowest +/- everytime. His defense is hilariously bad. I was definitely not surprised when they went 5 of 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Thunder&#8221; are a better team without Durant. Nobody in the NBA has a more negative impact on their team than KD, as shown by 82games.com. They are 0.7 points were on offense when he is on the floor and 8.2 points worse on defense. His net plus-minus score of -8.9 is DEAD LAST in the NBA. Take a look at any boxscore from the season. Durant has the lowest +/- everytime. His defense is hilariously bad. I was definitely not surprised when they went 5 of 7.</p>
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		<title>By: Cpt. C-Note</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpt. C-Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait until next season! KD should continue his improvement (along with the other young guys) and if things go the way they should, KD will be and All-Star and all our starters will be better BECAUSE of him. 
How many more games do you think we can win this year? We lost at least 6-7 on last second shots and bad decsion making in critical situations.(Carmello twice, Nash, Brad Miller, ect..)
I think we can get to the high 30&#039;s! Maybe 38-44. that would be a huge jump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait until next season! KD should continue his improvement (along with the other young guys) and if things go the way they should, KD will be and All-Star and all our starters will be better BECAUSE of him.<br />
How many more games do you think we can win this year? We lost at least 6-7 on last second shots and bad decsion making in critical situations.(Carmello twice, Nash, Brad Miller, ect..)<br />
I think we can get to the high 30&#8242;s! Maybe 38-44. that would be a huge jump.</p>
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		<title>By: J.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Joe &lt;/a&gt; 
Excellent points and the sheer fact that they kept playing AT ALL after that 3-29 start should reveal just how much heart this team and the coach has.

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9963&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Vega &lt;/a&gt; 
Absolutely, but you definitely can&#039;t blame people for asking the question, &quot;If they can do this without KD, why aren&#039;t they doing it when he&#039;s on the floor?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-9969" rel="nofollow">@Joe </a><br />
Excellent points and the sheer fact that they kept playing AT ALL after that 3-29 start should reveal just how much heart this team and the coach has.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-9963" rel="nofollow">@Vega </a><br />
Absolutely, but you definitely can&#8217;t blame people for asking the question, &#8220;If they can do this without KD, why aren&#8217;t they doing it when he&#8217;s on the floor?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I really hated when people started criticize KD during this stretch instead of pointing out how great the coaching was and how well the reserves responded.  It was a good thing for a young team to experience not a critique of Durant.  In the future, I hope that Durant becomes a better passer and learns that he can wait till the second half or just whenever his team needs him to sink the dagger in to the opposition.   But, that will come with greater maturity and I&#039;m enjoying the ride so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I really hated when people started criticize KD during this stretch instead of pointing out how great the coaching was and how well the reserves responded.  It was a good thing for a young team to experience not a critique of Durant.  In the future, I hope that Durant becomes a better passer and learns that he can wait till the second half or just whenever his team needs him to sink the dagger in to the opposition.   But, that will come with greater maturity and I&#8217;m enjoying the ride so far.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Durant&#039;s team. Clearly. But he needs to continue to up his already considerable game for the team to get significantly more wins.

He&#039;s got to become a much more committed defender. Rather than no longer being the worst defender on the team he needs to bust his butt to become the best. Lead by example. In order to do this he has to get physically stronger. He knows this. It will be interesting to see if he comes this fall with more muscle.

And it&#039;s true the ball stops at Durant when he&#039;s on the floor. But I&#039;m way less worried about that. How far they&#039;ve come is remarkable. New coach, new players &amp; so much youth. They&#039;ll benefit from training camp a ton and Durant won&#039;t have to shoulder so much of the offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Durant&#8217;s team. Clearly. But he needs to continue to up his already considerable game for the team to get significantly more wins.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got to become a much more committed defender. Rather than no longer being the worst defender on the team he needs to bust his butt to become the best. Lead by example. In order to do this he has to get physically stronger. He knows this. It will be interesting to see if he comes this fall with more muscle.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s true the ball stops at Durant when he&#8217;s on the floor. But I&#8217;m way less worried about that. How far they&#8217;ve come is remarkable. New coach, new players &amp; so much youth. They&#8217;ll benefit from training camp a ton and Durant won&#8217;t have to shoulder so much of the offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a numbers standpoint opponents might be better off not fouling Russell and making him shoot inside more often. Conversely he should try to draw contact and get to the foul even more unless he is properly confident about being able to finish the shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a numbers standpoint opponents might be better off not fouling Russell and making him shoot inside more often. Conversely he should try to draw contact and get to the foul even more unless he is properly confident about being able to finish the shot.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neato, just discovered the player biographies on the official Thunder site.

Love this quote about KD:

&quot;During a road trip their AAU team took to Charlotte, Durant had to write “Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard” on the front and back of four pages of paper before he could play.&quot;

Well, somebody sure schooled him right. He&#039;s got the hard work ethic down to his core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neato, just discovered the player biographies on the official Thunder site.</p>
<p>Love this quote about KD:</p>
<p>&#8220;During a road trip their AAU team took to Charlotte, Durant had to write “Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard” on the front and back of four pages of paper before he could play.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, somebody sure schooled him right. He&#8217;s got the hard work ethic down to his core.</p>
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